[VS] Orochimaru VS Mei

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You sound absurd. Titles alone don't determine victory, analyzing and comparing their abilities do. Hiruzen is a Hokaage, but based on what he has shown he would lose to a Jounin such as Gai or Kakashi.
Reread my post, and then try to show me where i stated the bold.

Hiruzen is a Hokage.. he hasn't shown big OP techs because he hasn't had screen time to show them. As I said, they get their title due to their power. Orochimaru himself admit inferiority to Hiruzen.. automatically putting Hiruzen above orochimaru. So are you claiming Orochimaru admit inferiority to someone who can only do jounin level techs?

Feats are dependent on the scenario and the situation and screen time.
 

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I'll look for something to disprove of this ! lol
Please, please do... The Kusanagi was far too iconic with Orochimaru to just go.
Reread my post, and then try to show me where i stated the bold.

Hiruzen is a Hokage.. he hasn't shown big OP techs because he hasn't had screen time to show them. As I said, they get their title due to their power. Orochimaru himself admit inferiority to Hiruzen.. automatically putting Hiruzen above orochimaru. So are you claiming Orochimaru admit inferiority to someone who can only do jounin level techs?

Feats are dependent on the scenario and the situation and screen time.
Orochimaru is portrayed as to be on the same level as the Gokage.. so would be a hard ass fight. But Oro takes the win, due to being a Sanin.
Right here, you say he wins based on the title. And Hiruzen without a doubt has something that makes him a Kage Level shinobi. But, sadly, it hasn't been shown and judging from what we have of him he's a High Jounin level shinobi.

Taking hype into account of things once more doesn't do a thing. Orochimaru said a ten year younger Hiruzen would of beaten him, yes. But with what jutsu? How powerful are they? We can't accurately gauge Hiruzen based on this statement because we don't know exactly what he's capable of. It's a mystery that we can only speculate on.
 
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Please, please do... The Kusanagi was far too iconic with Orochimaru to just go.



Right here, you say he wins based on the title. And Hiruzen without a doubt has something that makes him a Kage Level shinobi. But, sadly, it hasn't been shown and judging from what we have of him he's a High Jounin level shinobi.

Taking hype into account of things once more doesn't do a thing. Orochimaru said a ten year younger Hiruzen would of beaten him, yes. But with what jutsu? How powerful are they? We can't accurately gauge Hiruzen based on this statement because we don't know exactly what he's capable of. It's a mystery that we can only speculate on.
And then did i not explain to you that, the his title supports his power, so why would i bother stating something out that can be explained with his title? o_O.

What you implied was that i was saying a mere title puts him over so and so.. but no.. its not an "mere" title.. it is a title that supports his power.

And hence why Hiruzen shouldn't be used in a VS thread.. same for Tobirama..

Idk.. but its stronger than anything Orochimaru has.. just because you can't use someone in a VS thread .. doesn't mean they are weak you know. Its just your (people who use them) fault for using them in the VS thread, when you know very well that they haven't gotten screen time.

For example, Hiruzen obviously has more to show to us.. Tobirama obviously has more to show to us.... but fans don't want to consider that and just say he only has those techniques.
 
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I'll look for something to disprove of this ! lol
Just don't listen to him. Ofc Oro has his Kusanagi.
It's been proven that Kusanagi stays with its owner even after death (look at Itachi's Kusanagi).
Moreover, Orochimaru was never sealed completely by Itachi. He escaped the seal with his snakes - so the theory about Kusanagi being gone is false.
 
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