Tobirama is more intelligent in certain aspects, while Minato is more intelligent in other aspects.Although Minato's battle tactic is above and beyond Tobirama's. Minato is much more analytical, and has a better arsenal which can be linked up together. Tobirama has a smaller arsenal, and most of it can't be directly linked back to one another.
It was never stated he could sense what was going on in another persons brain. It is obvious what occurs, it really doesn't require someone to sense the brains emotions to realise that a sharingan is manifested every time a loved one dies. SM Naruto, Muu, and possibly Karin are all not even in the same league in regards to sensing. Minato can also sense incase you didn't know.
They are portrayed as equals since Minato compliments Tobirama and Tobirama compliments Minato. Tobirama saved Minato from a Juubito bomb. Minato was actually quite impressed by the second's quickness and instinct.
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At the bold, may I ask how?
At the underline, may I ask you to show me some feats of Minato's battle tactics?
And did I not just show you a scan of how Tobirama sensed the change in the Uchiha's brain?
Hashirama can sense as well, but we all know Tobirama is better. I still doubt Minato can sense. The only thing he has sensed is Naruto since Kurama was in Naruto, and Minato had the other half of Kurama.
People like to forget that Minato's FTG has a radius. He doesn't need to place the Kunai right next to Tobirama... [
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]. Why he didn't do that against Ay and Bee is for another discussion, but what the manga shows is an irrefutable fact that, Minato can teleport around a certain radius surrounding his Kunai. Tobirama eats a Rasengan to the face.
They are portrayed as equals since Minato compliments Tobirama and Tobirama compliments Minato. Tobirama saved Minato from a Juubito bomb. Minato was actually quite impressed by the second's quickness and instinct.
I don't see where they are portrayed as equal when he admits inferiority in almost everything. Concerning intelligence, as long as Minato isn't emotive he has shown to be smarter. Tobirama simply has more knowledge in Rikudo techniques, something that shouldn't be surprising when you know he is a descendant of the Sage
And no, Minato wouldn't have died even without Tobirama's intervention since he was about to do the same thing Tobirama did and Tobirama teleported 2times after taking the ball. Minato could have done the same thing. Infact one teleportation was even enough since he has shown to be capable to teleport everything in contact with him to different markings
They are portrayed as equals since Minato compliments Tobirama and Tobirama compliments Minato. Tobirama saved Minato from a Juubito bomb. Minato was actually quite impressed by the second's quickness and instinct.
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At the bold, may I ask how?
At the underline, may I ask you to show me some feats of Minato's battle tactics?
And did I not just show you a scan of how Tobirama sensed the change in the Uchiha's brain?
Hashirama can sense as well, but we all know Tobirama is better. I still doubt Minato can sense. The only thing he has sensed is Naruto since Kurama was in Naruto, and Minato had the other half of Kurama.
A rasengan is not damaging Tobirama in any way at all, especially if Tobirama could hold onto a bomb from Juubito.
They compliment each other in the manga because they have near identical fighting styles.
He is analytically more intelligent. He was capable of learning what Obito's S/T jutsu was, after Obito having used it once. Note that the shinobi alliance took chapters in the double digits to figure this out. Minato was capable of devising the rasengan, after viewing hoe the TBB was formed from afar. Minato advanced Tobirama's method of FTG, and made it better in every aspect. Minato can summon, Minato can use Kage Bunshins, Minato can use S/T Barrier, Minato has great chakra control (base rasnegan-Naruto's odama rasengan). Lets not act as if he couldn't beat Tobirama.
His battle tactic is quite simple, yet underrated. He spreads out FTG kunai's all around to give him different options of where he wants to teleport [
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No? You showed me a scan of Tobirama explaining it, explaining it isn't the same as sensing it. Unless you show me proof of him having sensed it, than this is a baseless assumption made to perceive the manga the way you want it to be to support your point. It has been shown time and time again that this was the occurrence of the manifestation of the sharingan. An eye year old mild could have figured such a thing out after seeing it as many times as Tobirama had probably seen it. A picture of a brain being there does not justify this being sensory, nor should such a thing even be possible. Minato can't sense? [
Minato's FTG is faster than Tobitama's (otherwise they would have arrived at the same moment) Therefore, Tobirama should
not be able to dodge Minato's attack with FTG.
Minato's jutsus is better than Tobirama's in everything!
I don't see where they are portrayed as equal when he admits inferiority in almost everything. Concerning intelligence, as long as Minato isn't emotive he has shown to be smarter. Tobirama simply has more knowledge in Rikudo techniques, something that shouldn't be surprising when you know he is a descendant of the Sage
And no, Minato wouldn't have died even without Tobirama's intervention since he was about to do the same thing Tobirama did and Tobirama teleported 2times after taking the ball. Minato could have done the same thing. Infact one teleportation was even enough since he has shown to be capable to teleport everything in contact with him to different markings
granted Tobirama has admitted being 'inferior', but that's only when it comes to the use of FTG, how does this make Minato any better, you don't think other factors will play into it?. Tobirama is inferior because Minato has better FTG?. Ok :|
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look at the second panel, the thing was about to explode until Tobirama grabbed it, anyway what does it matter who saved who?. I think that was simply to give Tobirama a hiraishin feat. idk why people keep arguing he didn't ''save'' Minato
Nothing Minato has can really be considered something Tobirama can't counter. Ftg is literally a non-factor in the fight.. speed wise Tobirama's reflexes and sensing is elite.
Tobirama (near perfected Shinobi in all aspects) > Minato ( the speedster).
People calling Minato superior, because Tobirama compliments him.. simply do not understand. -sigh-. Tobirama can compliment him. Hashirama complimented Orochimaru.. does that make Orochimaru superior? Minato is using Tobirama's techniques.. he has the right to compliment him, not to mention Minato is like a grandkid to Tobirama rofl.
Nothing Minato has can really be considered something Tobirama can't counter. Ftg is literally a non-factor in the fight.. speed wise Tobirama's reflexes and sensing is elite.
Tobirama (near perfected Shinobi in all aspects) > Minato ( the speedster).
How is FTG non-factor when it's the main jutsu for both of them? Not to mention that Minato's FTG
is faster and better than tobirama's that's a HUGE factor actually.
lol, no. Minato's is superior to Tobirama, by feats, hype, and portray.
And he is... Tobirama has minimal exposure in the manga and people deeming him more analytical is a farce. Minato devised a way to counter and or counter-act Kamui in mere seconds (one chapter) whereas it took the alliance and one of the best analyzers in the series (Kakashi) 10+ chapters to do so.
We all know you're against this because Minato is > Itachi....
Nothing Minato has can really be considered something Tobirama can't counter. Ftg is literally a non-factor in the fight.. speed wise Tobirama's reflexes and sensing is elite.
Tobirama (near perfected Shinobi in all aspects) > Minato ( the speedster).
And he is... Tobirama has minimal exposure in the manga and people deeming him more analytical is a farce. Minato devised a way to counter and or counter-act Kamui in mere seconds (one chapter) whereas it took the alliance and one of the best analyzers in the series (Kakashi) 10+ chapters to do so.
We all know you're against this because Minato is > Itachi....
But Minato didn't exactly deduce the workings of Kamui. He didn't realize that Obito sent body parts to the Kamui dimension, Kakashi did, and he had to since the SA didn't have access to an instant S/T ninjutsu.
Tobirama has been shown to be much more analytical than Minato. They were both battling side by side and yet Tobirama caught on to minor details quicker; realizing that Obito can't nullify senjutsu techniques and noticing Minato's arm not regenerating.
How is FTG non-factor when it's the main jutsu for both of them? Not to mention that Minato's FTG
is faster and better than tobirama's that's a HUGE factor actually.
lol, no. Minato's is superior to Tobirama, by feats, hype, and portray.
Tobirama's portrayal = Best shinobi.. aka Hype also.
The fact you do not even know that Minato is faster than Tobirama in shunshin (blitzing) and not FTG nulifies your argument.
Clearly you seem to believe being better in 1 category = being better in all. Have you ever wondered why Minato even with his great speed and ftg was never put on Hashirama or Hiruzen or Tobirama's level? Or are you simply being a fan, that judges only what he is shown.. and nullifies other's abilities because they didn't get the screen time to show it?
What manga have you been reading? Tobirama stated his shunshin aka "blitzing" is inferior to Minato's.. he was hailed as the fastest shinobi after all. But notice how this is a big deal in the Fan-verse and Naruto-verse..
And he is... Tobirama has minimal exposure in the manga and people deeming him more analytical is a farce. Minato devised a way to counter and or counter-act Kamui in mere seconds (one chapter) whereas it took the alliance and one of the best analyzers in the series (Kakashi) 10+ chapters to do so.
We all know you're against this because Minato is > Itachi....
analytical? Funny because when I typed that my Laptop auto corrected it because it wrong via red underline?ZzzZzz
Anyways regarding Tobirama and Minato being more observant I can care less but when Minato fans go wild and and say Minato is Superior is clearly fanfiction. Regarding Minato making a counter-act against his kamui when they fought is hardly worth mentioning when Danzo's subordinates Fu and Torune were able to break down Obito's kamui during their first encounter[
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Regarding kakashi he did speculate obito or rather tobi did in fact use space time ninjutsu[
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] but rather dismissed his Idea moments later. It was only when during the war kakashi was going toe and toe with obito to make a better analyzing of obitos kamui.
Anyways regarding Tobirama is screen panel time is of little importance here, he still displayed *analytical* feats which deserve to be praised, funny thing is neither Minato has had that much screen time or analytical feats throughout the manga. His best observation feat is countering kamui unless im mistaken?
Minato>Itachi? Finger genjutsu saids hi. And if Im correct Kakashi broke down obitos kamui further than Minato did.
Tobirama's portrayal = Best shinobi.. aka Hype also.
The fact you do not even know that Minato is faster than Tobirama in shunshin (blitzing) and not FTG nulifies your argument.
Clearly you seem to believe being better in 1 category = being better in all. Have you ever wondered why Minato even with his great speed and ftg was never put on Hashirama or Hiruzen or Tobirama's level? Or are you simply being a fan, that judges only what he is shown.. and nullifies other's abilities because they didn't get the screen time to show it?
1- Minato's portrayal = can't be surpassed. =ر
2- the fact you don't know that
Minato's
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Shunshin
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Tobirama's
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shunshin
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is amusing, wouldn't you agree?
lol, yeah I wondered about those things. What about you?
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Naruto
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Tsunade
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Hiruzen & Anko
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Fodders
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and, no, you ARE being a fanboy here. Tobirama has nothing compare to that. have you not wondering whey kishi gave the savior title to Minato?
or the yellow flash? or why he always compare Naruto to him? How Tobirama was defeated by kin & gin, yet Minato was playing with Kumo's strongest
tag team? (A & B) why Tobirama and Hashirama were killed in the War, but Minato ended the 3rd War?
why is he the one who has the greater impact out of all the Hookages in this war? He's only second to his son!
How is FTG non-factor when it's the main jutsu for both of them? Not to mention that Minato's FTG
is faster and better than tobirama's that's a HUGE factor actually.
lol, no. Minato's is superior to Tobirama, by feats, hype, and portray.
how so?
