Hiruzen Sarutobi: The Professor - The God of Shinobi & The Legendary Story of "HYPE"

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Hiruzen Sarutobi: The Professor - The God of Shinobi & The Legendary Story of "HYPE"

Many debate his place in the list of Top Shinobi and his "Hype"

He was known as the professor who knew all the justu in the leaf.

The "Professor" title seems to indicate that he held knowledge of the justu.

Remember knowledge is power.I should not have to tell you the advantage of knowing people's justu and what info can do.
Itachi,kabuto and obito point this out on multiple occasions.

Its what makes the sharingan so famous.


Now what can Hiruzen do ? We never get the full scope of his powers.

And we never will


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1.If kishi said he did then he did. Our opinions have nothing to do with what he kishi says he knows.

We are never going to get random convenient plot device moments that will delve into the characters we are specifically interested in.



2.Obviously the justu he did not personally posses were the ones that were kekegenkai and secret techniques.


3.Knowing is not the same as being able to perform them.Though as i mentioned above it sets him up to use a counter of his own (Whatever they could of possibly been )


4.When hiruzen was alive he was at an advanced age and his chakra levels were lower then in his prime meaning any justu that required a certain amount of chakra or stamina he most likely could not use them in his battle against oro.


5.In that battle vs oro he had to stop the first,the second and oro so he resorted to the RDS if the battle was between just him and oro maybe hiruzen wouldn't of had to resort to such a justu meaning he could of showcased other justu but,as we all know that is not how it went down so he used what the situation called for.


6.When hiruzen came back obito was began using omyoudon meaning justu was useless so why would hiruzen use ninjustu that wouldn't work at that point ?
Not that the majority of ninjustu would worked since the alliance required Minato and Tobirama working in tandem to make it possible for attacks to even land a hit on juubito.

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Point being in both situations we see him at a battle there was always official reasons for him not using ninjustu out the ass.Thus we can never assess what the Prime Hiruzen was.

People saying it is all "hype" act as if there saying Hiruzen can't do anything feats or can't happen.
If kishi says something (Other then characters lying or generalizing) then the statement is true.

There is a difference between unseen events and Hype.
Most of those who say HYPE use it in the wrong context.

Hype is used in to describe/promote a fad or devised in marketing strategies to which a product is advertized as the thing everyone must have.


So when Hiruzen does not get the chance to prove his status to the readers (Even though i gave you reason on why that was not possible at any point in time) IT is not HYPE.


The story follows naruto.It is told through events surrounding him taking place around him.
We are never going to get random convenient plot device moments that will delve into the characters we are specifically interested in.
 
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He was given a chance to deliver yet failed to do so,Hiruzen could have shown off some of those jutsu he is rumored to have against Juubito but instead he used a shuriken jutsu.
 

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Hiruzen is god of shinobi, he solos, he is not solo king, he is solo god. You who oppose are under the one of the most strongest genjutsus. DENIAL.
 

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Hiruzen is god of shinobi, he solos, he is not solo king, he is solo god. You who oppose are under the one of the most strongest genjutsus. DENIAL.

Hashirama is the true God of Shinobi.:cool:
 

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You just gave us reasons why it was hype and said it's why it wasn't hype... Just like people hype up video games, saying they're going to be the best, even the creators say they'll be the best. Yet when they come out, they are ass... That's hype. When Hiruzen was finally showcased, in part one and part two, he has been ass. The only feats he has is sealing 25% senju bro's and incorrectly deducing what Obito's jutsu was made out of.
 

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Niggas are mad cause Hiruzen is God and > their favourite characters.
 

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Hashirama is the true God of Shinobi.:cool:

There can never be too many gods. Two gods is enough for me Hash-man, and Professor Hiruzen.
 

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He was given a chance to deliver yet failed to do so,Hiruzen could have shown off some of those jutsu he is rumored to have against Juubito but instead he used a shuriken jutsu.

If yo bothered to read the thread you would of known that ninjustu of any kind would of been of absolute no use given that juubito has the omnyoudon.
 

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You just gave us reasons why it was hype and said it's why it wasn't hype... Just like people hype up video games, saying they're going to be the best, even the creators say they'll be the best. Yet when they come out, they are ass... That's hype. When Hiruzen was finally showcased, in part one and part two, he has been ass. The only feats he has is sealing 25% senju bro's and incorrectly deducing what Obito's jutsu was made out of.


When he presents them,he is not obligated to take time out of the main story to show you precisely why they are as strong as he claims.

READ the thread.There was no time or point during the story hiruzen could have showcased anything.

The reasons are numbered from 1 - 6.

Reading is not that hard.

And you would really benefit from the last part where i describe what the word hype is used for and why the context you are trying to apply to is absurd and makes no sense.


Please pick up a dictionary once in a while.

I promise you will be better for it.
 
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When he presents them,he is not obligated to take time out of the main story to show you precisely why they are as strong as he claims.

READ the thread.There was no time or point during the story hiruzen could have showcased anything.

The reasons are numbered from 1 - 6.

Reading is not that hard.

And you would really benefit from the last part where i describe what the word hype is used for and why the context you are trying to apply to is absurd and makes no sense.


Please pick up a dictionary once in a while.

I promise you will be better for it.

Tobirama is the God of Shinobi. I say so. Deal with it.
 

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It's conjecture, mate. 655 chapters and not a single notable feat? Hiruzen can **** off.​
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The Professor - The God of Shinobi & The Legendary Story of "HY

When he presents them,he is not obligated to take time out of the main story to show you precisely why they are as strong as he claims.

READ the thread.There was no time or point during the story hiruzen could have showcased anything.

The reasons are numbered from 1 - 5.

Reading is not that hard.

And you would really benefit from the last part where i describe what the word hype is used for and why the context you are trying to apply to is absurd and makes no sense.


Please pick up a dictionary once in a while.

I promise you will be better for it.

People saying it is all "hype" act as if there saying Hiruzen can't do anything feats or can't happen.
If kishi says something (Other then characters lying or generalizing) then the statement is true.

There is a difference between unseen events and Hype.
Most of those who say HYPE use it in the wrong context.

Hype is used in to describe/promote a fad or devised in marketing strategies to which a product is advertized as the thing everyone must have.


So when Hiruzen does not get the chance to prove his status to the readers (Even though i gave you reason on why that was not possible at any point in time) IT is not HYPE.

- Kishimoto hyped Hiruzen, just as he did with Hashirama, and nearly every other character... He did it in the way your little definition states it to be done too. Hiruzen was hyped by Kishi to promote him as the best thing in the series at that point in time. Especially considering, I'm sure Hashirama wasn't even mentioned yet. Then there's the fact that he was the hokage, the dream, Naruto had set to attain. Obviously he was the biggest and baddest thing at that point in the story. We didn't even learn about the other nations besides sunagakure until part two...

That is hype... You saying Kishi promoting him in the way I just explained isn't hype just makes you a blind Hiruzen wanker, just like the others. Just because he hasn't had panel time to showcase why he is hyped, doesn't mean it's not hype. Hype will remain hype until proven with feats.
 

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- Kishimoto hyped Hiruzen, just as he did with Hashirama, and nearly every other character... He did it in the way your little definition states it to be done too. Hiruzen was hyped by Kishi to promote him as the best thing in the series at that point in time. Especially considering, I'm sure Hashirama wasn't even mentioned yet. Then there's the fact that he was the hokage, the dream, Naruto had set to attain. Obviously he was the biggest and baddest thing at that point in the story. We didn't even learn about the other nations besides sunagakure until part two...

That is hype... You saying Kishi promoting him in the way I just explained isn't hype just makes you a blind Hiruzen wanker, just like the others. Just because he hasn't had panel time to showcase why he is hyped, doesn't mean it's not hype. Hype will remain hype until proven with feats.



Kishi did not promote anyone.
Characters (In character.meaning there was no presentation,there was no breaking the fourth wall )mentioned his title and his legacy.

You really don't know what hype is.

And you fail to understand the context of this thread.


At no point in time was it possible to show anything.

Kishi is not obligated to put his story on the back burner to satisfy fan boy questions.

Get over it
 

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In this case im not trying to look like a iconolast to the so called ''Hiruzen hype''
But im pretty sure Sandaime Hokage-nii sama is barely reaching top 20-25, I dont know how the majority of the Saindaime hokage fanboys are this jubilant, ''Get of that old ass donkey **** of a hiruzen'' these hiruzen fanboys making me sick with the cacophony and blaspehemy get to your common sense , but as Magnanimous/Amiable/Kind-hearted as I am I'll leave them fanboying the So called ''God of shinobi.''
 

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It's conjecture, mate. 655 chapters and not a single notable feat? Hiruzen can **** off.​

You failed to understand the context of this thread.


At no point in time was it possible to show anything hiruzen can do.

It wasn't because kishi doesn't give a **** it was the story moving at the pace it should be.

Our desire to see what he can do has nothing to do with what is and what should be shown.

He is not a main or main supporting character.

His place in the story has been met and not all roles deal with showing off how powerful you are.

And kishi doesn't need to twist the story to follow up on previous statements made by other characters just to prove a point.
 

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You failed to understand the context of this thread.


At no point in time was it possible to show anything hiruzen can do.

It wasn't because kishi doesn't give a **** it was the story moving at the pace it should be.

Our desire to see what he can do has nothing to do with what is and what should be shown.

He is not a main or main supporting character.

His place in the story has been met and not all roles deal with showing off how powerful you are.

And kishi doesn't need to twist the story to follow up on previous statements made by other characters just to prove a point.

So there couldn't have been any flashbacks during the Oro fight?

He can't show ANYTHING of use during the war as an Edo?

Mate **** off
 

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I don't see why the hell you're all arguing over this when the manga isn't even finished yet. Childish or what?
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The Professor - The God of Shinobi & The Legendary Story of "HY

In this case im not trying to look like a iconolast to the so called ''Hiruzen hype''
But im pretty sure Sandaime Hokage-nii sama is barely reaching top 20-25, I dont know how the majority of the Saindaime hokage fanboys are this jubilant, ''Get of that old ass donkey **** of a hiruzen'' these hiruzen fanboys making me sick with the cacophony and blaspehemy get to your common sense , but as Magnanimous/Amiable/Kind-hearted as I am I'll leave them fanboying the So called ''God of shinobi.''



That is an entire different altogether.

And that is your opinion and i respect that.
I am not sure myself where he stands in the top ninja list that people,myself included like to make either.

Since his generation and passing there have been many powerful shinobi.

Knowledge is power as well so the amount of justu means nothing when facing combat...Just the right justu for that situation.
 

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I don't see why the hell you're all arguing over this when the manga isn't even finished yet. Childish or what?

People talking or debating isn't childish.

Now your remark directed to blanket pretty much everyone in here is
 

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You failed to understand the context of this thread.


At no point in time was it possible to show anything hiruzen can do.

It wasn't because kishi doesn't give a **** it was the story moving at the pace it should be.

Our desire to see what he can do has nothing to do with what is and what should be shown.

He is not a main or main supporting character.

His place in the story has been met and not all roles deal with showing off how powerful you are.

And kishi doesn't need to twist the story to follow up on previous statements made by other characters just to prove a point.

Yes it ****ing was. Heard of things called flashbacks? They're not exactly conjecture: they are substantiated evidence. Kishi arbitrarily evidences characters and their abilities. Itachi, somebody who had died over 50 chapters ago, was mentioned by Kishi and praised as a genius at the age of 7; that's not hype, it's a feat because it is something he actually did—as opposed to some theoretical or hypothetical situation. If Kishi can erratically, almost pointlessly explain Itachi's abilities when he needed no further hype, why can he not do so for Hiruzen? Oh, yes, it's because Hiruzen is shit.

Sit down. Hiruzen fans have no idea what they're talking about. There's a reason he got *****-slapped by Obito and remained off-panel for 20 chapters.​
 
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