Kage Matchups Tobirama > Mei

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This may be off topic, but I'm starting to think the only reason people believe T-rama's the best at Sution is because he wears blue.
 

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Sandaime wins unless Tobirama can use Edo Tensei.

What Sandaime? No Sandaime in this match up... Godaime and Nidaime only here..

Well considering Minato's two-step Hiraishin wouldn't work on Tobirama with his pin sharp reaction times, Tobirama would win.

Minato still wins. Saying because a single jutsu doesn't work Tobirama wins is rather fallacious.

Tobirama low-mid diff.

Lol at this. Come back when Tobirama can counter Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu. Before that, don't say anything, his only feats are FTG, suiton in which she is superior with, and Kage Bunshins. All these are one shotted by Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu so I can't see your point.
 

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Today its time to analyze mei vs tobirama.

Feats Only:

Chakra Reserves: Tobirama > Mei

Suiton: Mei > Tobirama

Intelligence: Tobirama > Mei

Ninjutsu: MEi > Tobirama

Speed: Tobirama > Mei

Ok soooo this fight basically comes down to Tobirama being able to dodge any attack Mei throws out and also his ability to Edo Tensai and also out last Mei with his Chakra reserves,

Tobirama mid Diff....advacnes to next round....

Next Round: Tobirama, Third Raikage

Eliminated: Minato, MEi

Bold already makes me know this is a useless thread.
Mei wins. Swinging a sword and teleporting isn't helping when the only thing you'd be doing is dissolving your skin and causing mass hemorrhaging.
 

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What Sandaime? No Sandaime in this match up... Godaime and Nidaime only here..
I was talking about the next match-up.
Lol at this. Come back when Tobirama can counter Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu. Before that, don't say anything, his only feats are FTG, suiton in which she is superior with, and Kage Bunshins. All these are one shotted by Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu so I can't see your point.
From what I remember, Komu no Jutsu is a short-range tech. Tobirama can easily back away. The only reason Sasuke didn't do that was because he stated 'Every cell in my body hurts' due to MS usage.

Tobirama wouldn't be suffering from this.
 

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Lol at this. Come back when Tobirama can counter Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu. Before that, don't say anything, his only feats are FTG, suiton in which she is superior with, and Kage Bunshins. All these are one shotted by Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu so I can't see your point.

Too bad it's best used in an enclosed area and weakens as it spreads out. OP already mentioned Tobirama's ability on Edo Tensei, in other words he has it in this match up. Not really seeing how Tobirama will have trouble winning.
 
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I was talking about the next match-up.

From what I remember, Komu no Jutsu is a short-range tech. Tobirama can easily back away. The only reason Sasuke didn't do that was because he stated 'Every cell in my body hurts' due to MS usage.

Tobirama wouldn't be suffering from this.

It filled a whole room in a second. It isn't a short ranged technique. Tobirama has no chance of winning this. He is faster than Mei, but basically that's all. Mei is a more versatile fighter with stronger techniques.
 

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Too bad it's best used in an enclosed area and weakens as it spreads out. OP already mentioned Tobirama's ability on Edo Tensei, in other words he has it in this match up. Not really seeing how Tobirama will have trouble winning.

Stop using baseless assumptions.
 

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It filled a whole room in a second. It isn't a short ranged technique. Tobirama has no chance of winning this. He is faster than Mei, but basically that's all. Mei is a more versatile fighter with stronger techniques.
Yeah, a whole room is short range. It's not been shown to go further than a room. The jutsu creates a mist and thus shouldn't be affected by walls because it's a gas, and yet it didn't escape that room. Also, Edo Tensei ninja won't be affected by Komu no Jutsu.

Edit - nvm, it appears it is affected by walls. Anyway, that jutsu is in no way instant and so Tobirama can easily escape it.
 
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Stop using baseless assumptions.

Unless Mei is constantly pouring chakra into the jutsu, it's going to be weakened. That also leaves her vulnerable from several different attacks, if kage bunshins are present at the time. If she's not pouring chakra into it, the mist will get thinner as it spreads. Thus it will get weaker.
 
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Unless Mei is constantly pouring chakra into the jutsu, it's going to be weakened. That also leaves her vulnerable from several different attacks, if kage bunshins are present at the time. If she's not pouring chakra into it, the mist will get thinner as it spreads. Thus it will get weaker.

Her mist managed to partially melt Madara's Susanoo during its assault on her.
Her mist was leaking to other rooms during Kage Summit -> She had to lower ph to make sure it doesn't kill her allies.
Kage Bunshin would just poof in contact with the mist.
She defeats Tobirama with mid diff. 2nd is overrated and Mei counters everything he has with ease.
 

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Her mist managed to partially melt Madara's Susanoo during its assault on her.
Her mist was leaking to other rooms during Kage Summit -> She had to lower ph to make sure it doesn't kill her allies.
Kage Bunshin would just poof in contact with the mist.
She defeats Tobirama with mid diff. 2nd is overrated and Mei counters everything he has with ease.

Yup. Tobirama is just going to stand there and let the mist engulf him when he is able to evade it with ease. Tobirama isn't overrated, Mei's futton is.

Nothing Mei has is hitting Tobirama, especially if he has clones out, and it only takes one tag to end the match and tagging her will not be a problem.
 

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Mei wins low diff in reality

Can he even touch her without dieing?

Futton plus hidden mist take cares of tobirama fast.
All you guys who said boil release is useless in a open enviorment show scans
 

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Mei wins low diff in fanfiction

Can he even touch her without dieing?

Futton plus hidden mist take cares of tobirama fast.
All you guys who said boil release is useless in a open enviorment show scans

No one said her futton would be useless. I said her futton will not be as effective as it spreads out, unless she's pouring chakra into to it, so the mist doesn't get too thin. Still something like that can be evaded with ease, just like all of her other jutsu, by Tobirama.
 

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No one said her futton would be useless. I said her futton will not be as effective as it spreads out, unless she's pouring chakra into to it, so the mist doesn't get too thin. Still something like that can be evaded with ease, just like all of her other jutsu, by Tobirama.
Why would it spread out at all.

Show me scan of it spreading. The justu is just like hidden mist, but its just acid
 

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Too bad it's best used in an enclosed area and weakens as it spreads out. OP already mentioned Tobirama's ability on Edo Tensei, in other words he has it in this match up. Not really seeing how Tobirama will have trouble winning.

Wut? Are you saying the hidden mist jutsu endlessly spreads? Are you saying that Tobirama can survive the first few second of extreme pH levels? All these would make you seem fallacious if you were to believe them.

Moreover, Lava would take out any eco with ease, unless they had Gakido or Susano to counter. Assuming Tobirama's Edo's are weaker then Oro's, it is safe to assume they will lose against lava like other edo's would lose to amateratsu. Tobirama cannot win, simple as that. Her lava and her Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu would end this mid diff. Marks are useless since she can simply use high speed lava projectiles to cover them.
 

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Wut? Are you saying the hidden mist jutsu endlessly spreads? Are you saying that Tobirama can survive the first few second of extreme pH levels? All these would make you seem fallacious if you were to believe them.

Moreover, Lava would take out any eco with ease, unless they had Gakido or Susano to counter. Assuming Tobirama's Edo's are weaker then Oro's, it is safe to assume they will lose against lava like other edo's would lose to amateratsu. Tobirama cannot win, simple as that. Her lava and her Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu would end this mid diff. Marks are useless since she can simply use high speed lava projectiles to cover them.
Gojou Kibakufuda ends this. It's explosion almost dwarfed Gamakichi. They don't need to get close to her considering that explosion wipes the map clean.

You're assuming that Komu no Jutsu spreads instantly; it doesn't. It in fact took a few seconds for the tech to affect Sasuke and his Susanoo. Again, Lava doesn't instantly spawn on the user but Amaterasu does.

@bold Now that's fanfiction. Tobirama has used FTG a couple of times after the area was decimated by four Juubidamas. The seal does not get destroyed. Also, FTG users have a small radius outside the seal they can teleport to.
 

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Gojou Kibakufuda ends this. It's explosion almost dwarfed Gamakichi. They don't need to get close to her considering that explosion wipes the map clean.

No it doesn't. For one, she won't watch him summon his edo and then proceed to do Gojou Kibakufadu. Second of all, she ends the fight before he does it anyways (not that he will summon eco at the beginning of the match anyways).

You're assuming that Komu no Jutsu spreads instantly; it doesn't. It in fact took a few seconds for the tech to affect Sasuke and his Susanoo. Again, Lava doesn't instantly spawn on the user but Amaterasu does.

Probably because his Susano needed time to begin decomposing? What does amateratsu have to do with anything? She has already shown her Futton is highly acidic. She can adjust the pH levels, meaning she could make it even more acidic by increasing the concentration of dissolved substances in the acid. This easily kills off anyone without a shielding around them. An unguarded shinobi will have his eyes melted within a matter of milliseconds against such a low pH, since enzymes easily catalyse the eyes and any proteins. Conclusion, Tobirama melts all together. He can FTG away, but that mark is covered by lava now isn't it?

@bold Now that's fanfiction. Tobirama has used FTG a couple of times after the area was decimated by four Juubidamas. The seal does not get destroyed. Also, FTG users have a small radius outside the seal they can teleport to.

You didn't comprehend what I was implying. I meant she directly puts the lava on the FTG Mark, so that once he FTG's to it, he is already being affected by the Lava's harmful effects. She has already shown she can fire decently sized blobs at high speed [ ].I never claimed it would be destroyed, it simply would prevent Tobirama from teleporting to it. The radius isn't great. Saying he fully avoid the lava blobs radius is absurd. We don't know the extent of the FTG radius anyways.
 
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