Can Nagato summon Meteors ?

[-PK-]

IMO Nagato can potentially summon meteors just as madara. After seeing this Manga scan , i can only think of these requirements for Tengai Shinsei .

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1) High Chakra Reserves .
This is not debatable and i don't even need to explain how big nagato's chakra reserves are.
2) Rinnegan
Tengai Shinsei is a rinnegan Jutsu as Madara didn't use this jutsu until he possessed the rinnegan and kabuto also acknowledged it as the power fo the six paths but not of the uchiha .

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Nagato had the best rinnegan mastery as only he put all the powers of the six paths to good use . So he also meets this requirement .
3) Simultaneously weaving the Three hand signs aka - Ram + Snake + Bird
Hand Seals are used to perform many ninjutsu, genjutsu, and other secret arts other than taijutsu. The exact amount of chakra necessary to perform a technique is manipulated through hand seals.
So there is no reason why the susanoo is necessary for the jutsu as it just did the hand seals .
Nagato can weave the three hand Seals simultaneously by using his Asura path which can produce up to 4 extra arms just like in the case of Madara's Susanoo .

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If you are going to say this - "then why didn't Madara do it using Asura path" . Well the answer to this is simple since Susanoo meets the requirement of the extra hands and it offers better protection than Asura Path so he doesn't have any need to deactivate his susanoo .

So what do you think guys , can Nagato potentially use Tengai Shinsei or not ?

EDIT - After doing a little research i found Drproof's thread about tengai shinsei being a rinnegan tech . Please read this as well .

The Rinnegan's Omnipotent; Tengai Shinsei

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Prologue


The Rinnegan is known as the Greatest Doujutsu; being apart of The Sage Of Six Path's own power thus, this Doujutsu's prowess shouldn't be limited in fact The Rinnegan should be re-known as an Omnipotent. However, the purpose of this thread is to disprove the accusation that Tengai Shinsei is NOT a Sharingan based technique, but a Rinnegan based technique.

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Tengai Shinsei


The connection between Tengai Shinsei, and The Rinnegan is one of The Six Paths; Deva Path:
Deva: Tendō 天道 in Japanese. The realm of heavenly beings filled with pleasure; the Deva hold Godlike Powers; some reign over celestial kingdoms; most live in delightful happiness and splendor; they live for countless ages, but even the Deva belong to the world of suffering (samsara) -- for their powers blind them to the world of suffering and fill them with pride -- and thus even the Deva grow old and die; some say that because their pleasure is greatest, so too is their misery.
Pay close attention to this line: "The Realm Of Heavenly Beings; Hold Godlike Powers.". Basically The Deva Path is a God from Heaven; this is a huge connection between the attacks the Deva Path used against Konoha, in the Konoha Invasion arc. Those techniques were the following: Banshō Ten'in, Shinra Tensei, and Chibaku Tensei.

Here's why they are all connected:

Banshō Ten'in:

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Shinra Tensei:

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Chibaku Tensei:

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Heavenly. That is the big connection with these techniques, and The Deva Path; the manipulation with gravity as well is a strong connection. Now allow me to link this strong connection with Tengai Shinsei.

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Tengai Shinsei is often called an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan technique because Madara Uchiha used it in battle against the 5 Kages, well this is an incorrect accusation. Tengai Shinsei involves the manipulation of gravity (bringing meteorites from the "heavens"), as well as interpreting into "Shattered Heaven"; The connection is obvious in cohesion with the other Rinnegan based techniques.

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So that brings us to an end; The Rinnegan possesses Tengai Shinsei within its arsenal giving it a total of five (I haven't brought in the other technique because it is irrelevant) "Heavenly" based techniques. Thus,Tengai Shinsei is not an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan technique, but a Rinnegan technique instead.


Conclusion

Tengai Shinsei isn't an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan technique, but a Rinnegan technique instead. The evidence at hand; Deva Path- Heavenly; Godlike Beings; Tengai Shinsei means "Shattered Heaven", and it "rains from the Heavens".

 

[Filo]

He definitely can it is one of the powers of Rinnengan basically. So6p used this technique to seal the gedo mazou into the moon which is just a huge meteor

 

[BlacLord™]

You need Susano'o, so no.

 

[Snape Uchiha]

You are forgetting that the meteor kills whoever uses it. Madara was only able to use it because he is an edo who would regenerate.

 

[Khallil]

I think he can, but that it'll exhaust him immediately because it probably requires a lot of chakra, madara did it as an edo after all.

 

[Filo]

You are forgetting that the meteor kills whoever uses it. Madara was only able to use it because he is an edo who would regenerate.

This just depends how large the meteor is

 

[Sir Blades]

I'm pretty sure he used a small meteor against naruto and bee.

 

[-PK-]

You need Susano'o, so no.

Read my and Drproof's thread that i posted .

 

[-PK-]

You are forgetting that the meteor kills whoever uses it. Madara was only able to use it because he is an edo who would regenerate.

I think he can, but that it'll exhaust him immediately because it probably requires a lot of chakra, madara did it as an edo after all.

Well actually Edo body's have unlimited chakra but they have a limited chakra pool . As we cann when the hokages erected the barrier they could only make a certain amount of clones . Edos will have a fixed chakra pool which will refill unlimited times . And Nagato can survive the destruction from the meteor by staing in air using Deva Path .

 

[Xāvî1]

IMO Nagato can potentially summon meteors just as madara. After seeing this Manga scan , i can only think of these requirements for Tengai Shinsei .

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1) High Chakra Reserves .
This is not debatable and i don't even need to explain how big nagato's chakra reserves are.
2) Rinnegan
Tengai Shinsei is a rinnegan Jutsu as Madara didn't use this jutsu until he possessed the rinnegan and kabuto also acknowledged it as the power fo the six paths but not of the uchiha .

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Nagato had the best rinnegan mastery as only he put all the powers of the six paths to good use . So he also meets this requirement .
3) Simultaneously weaving the Three hand signs aka - Ram + Snake + Bird
Hand Seals are used to perform many ninjutsu, genjutsu, and other secret arts other than taijutsu. The exact amount of chakra necessary to perform a technique is manipulated through hand seals.
So there is no reason why the susanoo is necessary for the jutsu as it just did the hand seals .
Nagato can weave the three hand Seals simultaneously by using his Asura path which can produce up to 4 extra arms just like in the case of Madara's Susanoo .

If you are going to say this - "then why didn't Madara do it using Asura path" . Well the answer to this is simple since Susanoo meets the requirement of the extra hands and it offers better protection than Asura Path so he doesn't have any need to deactivate his susanoo .

So what do you think guys , can Nagato potentially use Tengai Shinsei or not ?

EDIT - After doing a little research i found Drproof's thread about tengai shinsei being a rinnegan tech . Please read this as well .

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Yes offcourse he can.................

 

[-PK-]

I'm pretty sure he used a small meteor against naruto and bee.

It was just a rock that he pulled from the nearby lake .

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I'm pretty sure he used a small meteor against naruto and bee.

That was a boulder he pulled using Bansho Tenin.

 

[-PK-]

For all the people who are clicking No , i would like you to give me a proper reason for it .

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Maybe he can. But he is.not better at using the rinnegan than madara. Read the flashbacks with obito when he taught him all the ridoku jutsu n rinnegan jutsu. Also those black rods that are used for the 6 paths is actually madaras will in a physical shape. And nagato had all those black rods in his own body. You gotta read the manga again and u cannot miss these details

 

[dvmaz]

I dont think the meteor jutsu is a rinnegan tech.

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Here, Madara says "I haven't seen this view in a long time". By deductive reasoning, this suggests that Madara had used the jutsu before.

He awakened the rinnegan when he was old and about to die. Also there is no evidence of him fighting anyone after the VOTE fight with Hashirama.

Therefore, its safe to assume he used this meteor tech before he awakened the rinnegan and before he fought Hashirama. So Nagato wouldn't be able to use it just because he has the rinnegan.

 

[Souji]

Yes. The meteor Jutsu is just a large scale application of the Universal Pull. Nagato has the chakra reserves, but perhaps his version would be smaller than Madara's, since the latter's chakra pool was enhanced with Hashiroids.

You need Susano'o, so no.

Wut

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I dont think the meteor jutsu is a rinnegan tech.

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Here, Madara says "I haven't seen this view in a long time". By deductive reasoning, this suggests that Madara had used the jutsu before.

He awakened the rinnegan when he was old and about to die. Also there is no evidence of him fighting anyone after the VOTE fight with Hashirama.

Therefore, its safe to assume he used this meteor tech before he awakened the rinnegan and before he fought Hashirama. So Nagato wouldn't be able to use it just because he has the rinnegan.

Madara was remembering the battlefields he fought in when saying that.

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

Yes of fcourse he can.................

OT: no you need susano'o :|

 

[Minator93]

I've said it and proved it that Only Madara can pull the meteors U_U

Its a Susanoo+Rinnegan Tech, so Nagato can't do it U_U

 

[-PK-]

I've said it and proved it that Only Madara can pull the meteors U_U

Its a Susanoo+Rinnegan Tech, so Nagato can't do it U_U

Care to elaborate ?