[Discussion] Madara? Wouldnt get my hopes up.

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I wouldn't get my hopes up for Madara being a real villain. I have a feeling that Madara tried to do the same damned plan as he is doing now back during the founding era.

Except for one important point Hashirama was around....And what did Hashirama do? Handle Madara, nobody else had to be involved in stopping Madara hence nobody else had to be involved in their battles.

And what was Madara's "Plan" you ask? Its simple I tell you.

Its tied up in the whole ying yang idea. light dark in balance. Madara even discussed his plan in a round about way with Hashirama ironically its just Hashi was too dumb to get the point.

Lets face it while Perfect Sasunoo is super OP compared to most of the other Shinobi around, but I'm pretty sure that the fourth Hokage and other suitably strong shinobi would eventually be able to face Madara and combat his techniques with suitable intelligence gathering. Hence most of the ninja world wouldn't get involved in fending off Madara in his pre-Rinnegan state only the super strong shinobi would likely combat and face Madara while the rest stayed out of it. It would be the Hokage's "Job" to deal with threats like that.

THE PLAN!11!

First part of Madara's plan was to make himself so ridiculously powerful for one reason and one reason only. So that he would be unmatched by any one single shinobi. That involved becoming like the most powerful chakra user ever, the SO6Ps. Ie For that he needed Senju DNA for the Rinnegan. But he did not anticipate how long it would take to unlock it hence he had to wait around for a suitable proxy to come along.

Obito laid the ground work just not in the way he or us as the reader might interpret. Tobi gathered all the Biju the most powerful and threatening creatures in existence then claimed that he would co,mbine them and lock everyone in a massive moronic genjutsu....whats more threatening than that lol?

Madara's plan was to make himself and his "PLANS" such a massive threat that nobody not even the little worthless fodders of the ninja world could ignore them. In essence rallying all Shinobi together. Once that is done as with the fourth war he starts the next phase of his plan, it wasn't just to bring them together it was to make the experience shared "PAIN" IE shinobi alliance would share each others pain and understand each other better for it. Its basically Nagato's plan except taken a different way.

Madara planned to stop Obito all the time, he would never let genjutsu actually occur. Thats why he was going after Hashirama's sage mode so that in the event that the alliance couldn't beat obito Madara could suppress him using Hashi's sage powers.

He planned to become the shinobi world's manifested "Yin" the darkness thereby forcing the rest of the shinobi world into balance with him becoming the "Yang" in the process. By forcing everyone to acknowledge each other as being an important part of stopping him he has helped them on the road to peace more than anyone even Naruto lol.

Madara will allow himself to disperse and die once he is suitably convinced of the alliance's conviction.

Lets face it Madara could have ROFL stomped everyone by now if he used his full powers. He could spam meteors if he wanted to....why hasn't he? The answer is staring everyone in the face....

NARUTO HAS NO VILLAIN BUT OROCHIMARU:p
 

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Kishi is all about plot twists so I can see Orochimaru pulling a switcharoo and turning against the alliance. It would be fitting since he was the first villain
 

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With all you effort...this thread only gets 3 replys
Sorry for your loss bro
 

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Tobi is Madara , deal with it :cool:
 

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Tobi is Madara , deal with it :cool:

Erm....right thanks for that...did you perchance read the OP?

With all you effort...this thread only gets 3 replys
Sorry for your loss bro

Yeah lol kinda a disappointment. Especially with comment like above ^

Honestly its obvious that Madara isn't a villain at all. Playing with your food only goes so far in my opinion. Madara should have stopped pissing around a long time ago. But all he has done so far is look super impressive and play with the kids....that's IT.....isn't that suspicious?
 

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Lets face it Madara could have ROFL stomped everyone by now if he used his full powers. He could spam meteors if he wanted to....why hasn't he? The answer is staring everyone in the face....

Well personally I think Madara hasn't killed everyone yet because it's not in his character. What fun would it be for him if all of his little playthings were dead except for him? Also I'm thinking he left a considerable amount of people alive because he needed them to give up their chakra to the God tree so that it could Bloom in the first place, if he killed everyone in the Naruto Verse his plan would fail.

Honestly its obvious that Madara isn't a villain at all. Playing with your food only goes so far in my opinion. Madara should have stopped pissing around a long time ago. But all he has done so far is look super impressive and play with the kids....that's IT.....isn't that suspicious?

It's suspicious because Madara is most likely being cautious. If he went with the plan outright and rushed it like Obito did, the same thing that happened to him would have happened to Madara(and see the Jyuubi was taken from him because Obito rushed and did the whole thing kind of half-assed). Now that it looks like all tailed beasts are free they might join up in side Naruto and now things are even better for Madara because he has almost all the tailed beasts inside one little 'brat' (ie. Naruto) that he could easily kill and steal the beasts from while at the same time, Obito is weakened making it easier for Madara to properly revive himself. He's taking things easy probably also because he doesn't want everyone on the battlefield to be able to predict what he's going to do, this gives him an advantage since he can surprise everybody with his trump cards and not have to worry about being stopped or thwarted by the alliance in time at least. He might also find it amusing that they were all afraid of him and is giving the Ninja alliance a false sense of security by acting like he doesn't give a crap but he's got plans and lots of them and is taking note of everything.
 
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