[VS] Itachi vs Minato (no ninjutsu)

[Strict]

Itachi has still the better Taijutsu skills. While the restriction of his Sharingan will restrict Itachi's foreshadowing ability, the moves and techniques he copied to his arsenal with the Sharingan, will not disappear if the Sharingan is deactivated. He will merely resign from the Sharingan's advantage in this matter, being with Minato on comparable ground.

So given the restrictions, this is actually a pure Taijutsu fight with foot speed, and their food speed is equal, at least for the lack of feats. I don't think at all that foot speed is considered fast among Shinobi. Those who are fast are considered to use Shunshin, which is restricted as well.

 

[Bieber]

Minato wins.

 

[Strawberry]

and he got hit because side affect of the tsukiyumi / going blind....

and im not saying mianto would get killed by shuriken, or that itachi wouldnt take a hit in a situation im just saying that it's more likely for itachi to come out on top when it comes down to shuriken, i mean he was shown to train shuriken jutsu multiple times, has shown the ability to counter and use his own effectively on very high levels. He was the best at shuriken jutsu in the entire clan aswell.


it's just if it is a straight out shuriken battle itachi takes it imo.

 

[Strict]

Yeah, almost blind and restricted by his illness, which reached its peak. Zetsu said that Itachi should've been capable of dodging attacks by which he let himself being hit. Ascribed to his illness. I remind you that the Itachi fighting Sasuke is not the only canon Itachi. We already witnessed various actions of a healthier one.

 

[Jobrjo]

Uh... well, fighting skill wise, I assume that Itachi is finer. With simply a blade he assassinated a clan (no noisy ninjutsu etc.). So I suppose him...

 

[Draphsin]

You completely missed the point. FTG or not, the winner was the one to react first. The point was to show that Minato reacted faster than Obito despite MS by teleporting himself behind him a split of second before his hand touched him. It was a battle of speed like Minato stated and Obito lost it despite MS activated

No you completely missed my point.

While minato may have superior reflexes, reflexes =////////////////= movement speed. FTG does not require any movement of the sort, you simply teleport based on your reaction time.

Kamui works the same way, based on reaction time. Since minato was able to move instantly, he literally bypassed kamui's intangibility reflex which is shown to be near instant itself & can react to enemies that obito can't even see.

FTG is the reason why minato is able to move on par with his reflexes, take away that ability & he cannot move as fast as he can react. FTG enabled him to hit obito, not his superior reflexes, yes it was a battle of speed, but FTG cannot be surpassed in that regard so of course minato is going to win.

I am proving to you that Itachi has superior movement speed, therefore even if minato can react to his attacks he cant adequately defend against them because he moves too slow in comparison. & NO im not saying that minato is slow, but he isnt moving as fast as Itachi can move his body.

Feats show us that minato's reaction time > Itachi's but itachi's movement speed (NOT shunshin) > Minato's.

 

[Bogard]

No you completely missed my point.

While minato may have superior reflexes, reflexes =////////////////= movement speed. FTG does not require any movement of the sort, you simply teleport based on your reaction time.

Kamui works the same way, based on reaction time. Since minato was able to move instantly, he literally bypassed kamui's intangibility reflex which is shown to be near instant itself & can react to enemies that obito can't even see.

FTG is the reason why minato is able to move on par with his reflexes, take away that ability & he cannot move as fast as he can react. FTG enabled him to hit obito, not his superior reflexes, yes it was a battle of speed, but FTG cannot be surpassed in that regard so of course minato is going to win.

I am proving to you that Itachi has superior movement speed, therefore even if minato can react to his attacks he cant adequately defend against them because he moves too slow in comparison. & NO im not saying that minato is slow, but he isnt moving as fast as Itachi can move his body.

Feats show us that minato's reaction time > Itachi's but itachi's movement speed (NOT shunshin) > Minato's.

Wtf is this shit? So now the fastest ninja in the manga becomes suddenly too slow for Itachi. This paragraph alone makes me understand there is no point in arguing with you, so i'll just leave you with your opinion

 

[Draphsin]

Wtf is this shit? So now the fastest ninja in the manga becomes suddenly too slow for Itachi. This paragraph alone makes me understand there is no point in arguing with you, so i'll just leave you with your opinion

And of course you blatantly ignore my point again bogard. lmfao, show me minato moving without shunshin or FTG as fast as Itachi. You're getting all upset because this time you have no proof.

I already told you that minato isn't slow, but he has not been shown to move his hands as fast as Itachi can, you're literally assuming. Minato is known for his reaction time, in fact he's unparalleled at it. & I'd go so far to say that he possibly has sensory abilities because he can react so fast, however this does not equate to movement speed.

If your reactions were fast enough to notice a bullet heading towards you, does that mean you can now dodge said bullet? No.

 

[Bogard]

And of course you blatantly ignore my point again bogard. lmfao, show me minato moving without shunshin or FTG as fast as Itachi. You're getting all upset because this time you have no proof.

I already told you that minato isn't slow, but he has not been shown to move his hands as fast as Itachi can, you're literally assuming. Minato is known for his reaction time, in fact he's unparalleled at it, & id go so far to say that he possibly has sensory abilities because he can react so fast, however this does not equate to moving fast with your body.

If your reactions were fast enough to notice a bullet heading towards you, does that mean you can now dodge said bullet? No.

I already said i'll leave you with your delusional opinion. I don't really feel the need in debating with the obvious. It's up to you to believe what you want. Concerning me, i'm already out

 

[Draphsin]

I already said i'll leave you with your delusional opinion. I don't really feel the need in debating with the obvious. It's up to you to believe what you want. Concerning me, i'm already out

Funny thing is I never see you back out like this, you always barrage the opposing side with scans that mean absolutely nothing.

Just goes to show you that when you have no proof, you simply leave.

 

[Bogard]

Funny thing is I never see you back out like this, you always barrage the opposing side with scans that mean absolutely nothing.

Just goes to show you that when you have no proof, you simply leave.

Whatever makes you feel better. Not as if i care

 

[Booker]

I love Minato, but without any chakra enhanced feats Itachi takes this.

 

[End of Days]

well so are we to discuss their kunai skills?

the kunai that minato uses is

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than the standard ones that others use and yet

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he can throw 30 of them in one swipe of hand

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gg

 

[Bogard]

well so are we to discuss their kunai skills?

the kunai that minato uses is

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than the standard ones that others use and yet

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he can throw 30 of them in one swipe of hand

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I was actually checking for this picture of yours lately, but after i saw some laughable posts, i realised there was no point in discussing U_U

 

[Booker]

well so are we to discuss their kunai skills?

the kunai that minato uses is

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than the standard ones that others use and yet

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he can throw 30 of them in one swipe of hand

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gg

^ This also means they can't be deflected by Itachi's shuriken.

I'm doing a 180, Minato wins.

 

[Strawberry]

well so are we to discuss their kunai skills?

the kunai that minato uses is

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than the standard ones that others use and yet

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he can throw 30 of them in one swipe of hand

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gg

it was just to save panels and the emphasis was on his ftg ..... its like how a jutsu forms suddenly in manga .. it isnt actually like that.

^ This also means they can't be deflected by Itachi's shuriken.

I'm doing a 180, Minato wins.

heavier kunai are at a disadvantage as itachis shuriken would still change their trajectory,

 

[End of Days]

it was just to save panels and the emphasis was on his ftg ..... its like how a jutsu forms suddenly in manga .. it isnt actually like that.

xd ftg is also for saving panels, minato really runs around but kishi wants to save panels so he is fooling the readers xd

 

[VolatileSoul]

I find the very notion of Minato winning this hilarious, and the arguments supporting him are horrid. Itachi's faster hand speed means he can hurl shuriken faster than Minato. He has superior taijutsu feats. What is there to discuss? Nothing but fanboying in here. If this was a genjutsu only fight people would still say Minato wins.