Top 5 Mary Sue's?

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A lil too much?




Gaara? didn't expect to see him.



In terms of being almighty and untouchable than sure.



Well Im talking about overall. I think Minato is more "perfect" than naruto.
His personality is generic, as is his character design
Well you'd be wrong to imply such slander.
I'd be right, in fact.
 

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His personality is generic, as is his character design

I'd be right, in fact.

you still think naruto is "perfect" over all?

In terms of,

Looks
Skills
Attitude
Clothing
other cliches.
etc
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Your list is almost the most accurate. Minato has no flaws and who's accomplishments were never disrepescted on like most like characters. Hashirama is either tied with Minato or second. I would then put Itachi, Kakashi and then Sasuke.
 

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you still think naruto is "perfect" over all?

In terms of,

Looks
Skills
Attitude
Clothing
other cliches.
etc
?
He is. Terribly cliche, and made too perfect. He's a god damn prophet!
 

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Your list is almost the most accurate. Minato has no flaws and who's accomplishments were never disrepescted on like most like characters. Hashirama is either tied with Minato or second. I would then put Itachi, Kakashi and then Sasuke.

Yea something like that. Minato is practically a robot.

He is. Terribly cliche, and made too perfect. He's a god damn prophet!

Indeed. I like naruto as a character but it's his all knowing attitude that gets me sometimes.
 

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How so? The OP said that it means perfect and without faults and if it's on the internet, it's gotta be true.
This is basically what a Mary Sue/Gary Stu is.
Many of us have heard the term "Mary Sue" floating around writing communities. A Mary Sue is a character that the author identifies with so strongly that the story is warped by it. Sometimes male Sues are called "Gary Stus," but more often the name is used for both sexes of offenders. The term was coined in fanfiction, made its way from there into the publishing world, and has slowly been filtering into the writing community as a useful shorthand for a frighteningly common error in characterization.

Along the way the definition of a Mary Sue has become muddied. For some, it is any self-insertion of the writer; for others it is when the character is obviously acting as wish-fulfillment for the writer. Sometimes it is a character who is excessively stylish or romantic or over-traumatized, or who never does anything wrong.

But these are all symptoms of the same literary crime: a character who, by the writer's obsession with her, subverts the truth and power of the story. Mary Sue fights to appear in all our stories. She is the story equivalent of the spoilt brat who always gets her way, with the writer-parent running before her anxiously smoothing her path; she is lovable to no one but that parent. Mary Sues sometimes appear in valid works of fiction, but more often they render the story unreadable, a source of satisfaction to the writer alone. Spotting her and learning to discipline her is as important for writers as it is for parents.

I say the bolded part is the most important. It's quite due a character being viewed as too perfect and too unrealistic.
 

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This is basically what a Mary Sue/Gary Stu is.


I say the bolded part is the most important. It's quite due a character being viewed as too and too unrealistic.

Mary sue/gary stu's have different meanings and definitions, but for my thread, I intended it to represent "perfect" and "Flawless"
 

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Mary sue/gary stu's have different meanings and definitions, but for my thread, I intended it to represent "perfect" and "Flawless"
Well, the last part in the second paragraph says that. Lol
 

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You are confused about what the term Mary Sue means. None of the characters you mention in OP fit. Not even Minato though he did show some traits before he was revived.

Edit: Just saw your post about "flawless" . Nope. Still doesn't fit for all these characters are flawed at one level or another.
 

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"Marty stue: an Author Avatar, it usually had implications of being a male crew member that tended to completely outshine established canon members in their roles and often become the best starship captain, ever."

"A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fan-fiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment fantasy for the author or reader. "


^^^ , That is why i said Naruto and Hashirama. Though Naruto is more applicable.
 

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Mary Sue - 'A character who is classified as unrealistic, perfect, or without faults'.

imo-

1. Minato

2. Itachi

3. Hashirama

4. Sasuke

5. Kakashi

What's your list?

What ever you say every character has one of them

1. Minato - His family and Konoha is his weakness

2. Itachi - His loyalty towards konoha and sasuke

3. Hashirama - Idiocy

4. Sasuke - Darkness in Heart

5. Kakashi - Low chakra level
 
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You must not know what a Mary Sue is if you think Sasuke is one. How is Naruto not on anyones list? The entire Shinobi world basically worships him as a god.
 

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Minato is the only Mary Sue imo
 

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Why not? He's the serial killer who became president. That's as unrealistic as it gets.​
you have a point!
What ever you say every character has one of them

1. Minato - His family and Konoha is his weakness

2. Itachi - His loyalty towards konoha and sasuke

3. Hashirama - Idiocy

4. Sasuke - Darkness in Heart

5. Kakashi - Low chakra level
well they show the least flaws

Minato is the only Mary Sue imo

true.
 

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1.Sasuke
2.Itachi
3.Minato
4.Hashirama
5.Madara
 
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