[Predictions] Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

[Konoha Rokudaime]

My question is, do you think Madara was telling Sauske the truth about what happened with Itachi? After all, didn't he help Itachi kill all the Uchihas (remember Sauske mentioned during his fight with Itachi that he couldn't have possibly killed everyone himself?). I think Madara told Sauske what he needed in order to get him to do what he wants. I think something else was going on between Madara and Itachi and that's why he killed everyone.

I think Madara told Sasuke about Itachi half the truth. Madara didn't tell Sasuke that he was the one who controlled the fox. Had he told that, things may turn out differently.
Yeah, there has to be something going on between Madara and Itachi. But we do not know what things happen exactly on the uchiha massacre night. Also, Itachi may not be the one who killed his/Sasuke's parents(may be Madara), who knows?

 

[wahmad4u]

a n9ice chapter ......

And i really like the way the things have started ..........!!!

I CAN REALLY SEE SASUKE AS FINAL VILLAN

as kisshi said madara is going to play a massive part but final villan is someone else
and that is sasuke as he is eatem up and naruto is not going to bring him back now .......!!!!

So in the end it is going to be NARUTO vs SASUKE .........!! and that RAIKAGE i dont think that the fight will finish between them.......!!!! as there are so many others to interfere........!!!

And naruto is not going to be captured by madara .........!! he will leave the village just like jiraya to find peace and he will find something to fight with madara.....!!!

BUt i m worried about sasuke how is he going to fight him .......!!! and as MADARA told that SAsuke might over take NAGATo and become more powerfull then him..>..!!!

So its going to be some outrageous action starting from now.........!!! Thanks after 2 months we are going to see some aciton...............!!!



:akatsuki:

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

i dunno why but i have a feeling juugo is going to betray sasuke and the others. he just seems different and a bit far from taka and their plans...in a good way.

NO, Juugo will not betray Sasuke. I think he will stick with him till death. Remember about his feeling towards Kimimaro and how he changed his feelings to Sasuke.

Just like others have predicted, I think Sasuke and Raikage will fight for a while, Karin on detecting Danzo's chakra will tell Sasuke. Juugo will fight Raikage and Sasuke will pursue Danzo.

One question, where the hell is white zetsu? Was he detained by the Samurai or the Kages or was he released? They knew that he is an Atkasuki.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO

I was in the first page yesterday. None of us were idiots, you are the one who is IDIOT. There is no way that dark shadow is the NEW MOON jutsu. It's just a scene to show how cold and merciless Sasuke has become. And one more thing, madara do not use any technique to control nagato. If there is, tell me in which manga and on which page, i'll be grateful. How Madara control Nagato was by assuring peace. Nagato was convinced mentally that if they could collect all the 1-9 tails, there will a be PEACE in this world by making use of the chaka from the 1-9tails and eliminate those who do not want peace. Let me repeat one more time MADARA DO NOT USE ANY TECHNIQUE TO CONTROL NAGATO OR SASUKE, HE CONVINCED THEM MENTALLY, YOU IDIOT.

PEACE

 

[kyubikiran]

I was in the first page yesterday. None of us were idiots, you are the one who is IDIOT. There is no way that dark shadow is the NEW MOON jutsu. It's just a scene to show how cold and merciless Sasuke has become. And one more thing, madara do not use any technique to control nagato. If there is, tell me in which manga and on which page, i'll be grateful. How Madara control Nagato was by assuring peace. Nagato was convinced mentally that if they could collect all the 1-9 tails, there will a be PEACE in this world by making use of the chaka from the 1-9tails and eliminate those who do not want peace. Let me repeat one more time MADARA DO NOT USE ANY TECHNIQUE TO CONTROL NAGATO OR SASUKE, HE CONVINCED THEM MENTALLY, YOU IDIOT.

PEACE

i totally agree with you in this matter, the one who said we are idiots think before what u post, calling others idiots doesnt make you any genius, in reverse it makes you the biggest idiot and wow i got news for you, u became a biggest idiot..congrats

 

[kyubikiran]

and about the shadow behind sauske, i guess we are prolonging that topic too much, its nothing but how sasuke is filled with hatred and anger. any comments who is stronger raikage or sasuke? both are fast, both are filled with revenge and anger and after all he is one kage...so

 

[Narut0h0lic]

it was a good chapter !!!

i wonder if the tobi's talk to naruto does mean that he intends to turn naruto against sasuke......to shake his beliefs.


Raikage Vs Sasuke, another epic battle??, anyway its difficult to predict, from one side we have a kage, killerbee's brother, fearless, and apparently strong, on the other hand, we have sasuke, cold hearted, murderer, strong, sharingan user.


this is just a guess , but i find a bit strange that tobi is always using his name at the end of the sentences like this one

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"......... work on me, uchiha madara"

Is like he don't want people to be with the slightest doubt about him being madara, why?!!?!.

Perhaps (im guessing) danzo and tobi have the same power, perhaps tobi is uchiha shisui, and he is controlling everyone, nagato, sasuke, zetsu........
i really find hard to believe that nagato was obeying madara without a reason, even the fourth when appeared to naruto he doesn't said "it was uchiha madara the one with the mask" i think if he was uchiha madara, the fourth would have known at least.
but as i said this is just a guess.

 

[Akatsuki leader]

Dont forget this!!!!!!!!!!!! Tobi is good boy!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[culinaryg]

can i just say no genjutsu or illusion or mind trick w/e u wanna call it will work on nagato for more than 2-3 pages he had the best eye
even Ao a guy who only has 1 byakugan eye can tell something wrong come on give nagato some credit

tobi knew easily wat pein secret was therefore were made equals no one stepping over the boudaries (even though both of then thought they were the stronger one)just my point

i believe almost every accomplished shinobi with eye tech will cancel any genjutsu another eye tech has in the naruto world, except for the ones we havent seen yet n cant prove

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WOOOT first to notice n comment its white AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! either was fine with me except in the typing the replies (color of font) kakashi was dope

 

[kydo]

Hi. I know no one will agree with me, but I did not like the chapter , though I did like the previous one (Zetsu announcing Sasuke was epic).

The truth is I am annoyed about the manga in general, lately the plot is having no sense in several aspects, I mean, no sense within the manga storyline.

* Pain suddenly deciding to help Naruto is one, Pain being able to bring everyone from death is another. Konan not being angry against Naruto was unexpected.

* Danzou being able to make himself Hokage without anyone questioning “where the hell were you during the invasion” is ridiculous.

* Danzou being able to make another Kage agree with him was silly. It seems Kishi decided “I must make Danzou the leader, what can I do? Oh, yes, the Sharingan”.

* Madara knowing Naruto’s whereabouts is another silly think. Of course, next manga we will have a ridiculous explanation on why he knew.

* Sasuke not wanting to kill people when he had the cursed seal –except for Oro and the incident with Naruto-, and wanting to kill everyone without the cursed seal. The way Sasuke was made to turn a really bad guy was not a good plot: just because he heard Madara, who had in fact helped to kill the clan, and was lying to him at least about not having controlled the demon fox. Kishi even had to make Itachi say that Sasuke can be coloured by anything to make this sound believable!

* Sasuke being pissed off only at the Samurai and not at Zetsu is the silliest of things! No, wait, the Kages concentrating only on Sasuke when they fear the whole of the Akatsuki and had Zetsu in front of them was even silliest.

* The way Naruto asks for Sasuke not to be killed. And later on deciding he must help Danzou because he is the Hokage.

Those who know me know that I seldom say something against the author, but today I believe Kishi needs to go back to his senses. Write what you want, but make the plot sound!

The things that are logical:

* Raikage and his team wanting to kill Sasuke,

* the Sai plot showing how he begins with no feelings and how he gradually realizes about Naruto’s feelings,

* Madara wanting to rule over and use Sasuke,

* Shikamaru being the one who leads the decision about taking care of Sasuke (he never liked him, remember?).

in response to the stuff u said in order and i cant beleive u said "some" of the things u said im all about the storyline being beleiveable but u were wrong on alota stuff "in my opinion".lol i guess im gona have to be the di*k who opposes many of ur views but re-read the points in the story ur against and then decide if im wrong or right.

*pain killed himself willingly after speakin wit naruto(its not like naruto said nagato i order u to kill urself),and nagato said he puts his faith in naruto to save the world so his dream will live on in naruto so how cud she be mad at him?

*ok yes the dnzou thing was not stressed on but remember it wasnt the vilagers who made him kage, it was the fire country council and fudal lord they might not kno the full siuation,it was obvious the vilage was against it (shikamaru's fathers reaction) plus it was emergency but i do agree with you to a certain degree i jus think kishi didnt stress on that issue thats all

*the third point i can agree with

*madara/tobi found sasuke on his way to konoha and said "it is within my power dont underestimate me", sasuke was surprised that he found him, so i guess as he says its "within his powers" and hopefuly kishi explains

*ok "maybe" madara manipulted the story somewhat but in the begining of the story sasuke was ur lying stop the BS for a while, the only reason sasuke thinks itachi didnt just kill the clan for his own selfish reasons is cuz itachi was crying and the itachi sasuke grew up with wudnt be expected to do a thing like that so sasuke decided to beleive madara because of what he remebered from the night of the murder and who itachi was as a person

*sasuke said he was pissed off so if the samuarais come at him he wont hold back he wasnt mad at them, we dont kno exactly why he is mad, its probly cuz he was btrayed or cuz they are many obstacles betwen him and danzou who knows

*ok naruto begging was mega weak to me too cuz im a uzumaki naruto fan but naruto not helpin danzou wud be like the republicans cing a guy with a gun and allowing him to shoot obama becuz he is a demrocrat and they wanted a republican in the white house.

 

[Naruto_Lee]

well i thougth the chapter was a little to short for my taste...other than that i thought it was pretty good.. madara is really mysterious and no one knows anything about him. sasuke is gotten stronger out of nowhere which makes me angry cuz hes a big baby, and i hope the raikage kills him. the battle is going to be epic. I do hope sasuke is going to get killed because in all the other battles when he almost dies he gets revived or helped by someone or somethin...in this one if he kills the raikage ( which he wont) there are other kage waiting there to fight....so he wont leave alive...or at least he'll have pretty bad bruises that will cost him 2 die later.

no no no i think that sasuke wont die in this battle he will kill raikage but he will not be able kill danzo so the akatsuki and sasuke might flee away.........uchiha madara might have actually appeared to distract naruto kakashi and yamato..............i think so may be kishi is confusing us a little bit again

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

in response to the stuff u said in order and i cant beleive u said "some" of the things u said im all about the storyline being beleiveable but u were wrong on alota stuff "in my opinion".lol i guess im gona have to be the di*k who opposes many of ur views but re-read the points in the story ur against and then decide if im wrong or right.

First, thanks for reading. I use to say ?in my opinion? as I don?t believe in full truths, and I democratically believe others can think otherwise. Besides, I say ?in my opinion? when the manga does not give me enough backup to support them, which is usual as Kishi tends to hide info from us.

*pain killed himself willingly after speakin wit naruto(its not like naruto said nagato i order u to kill urself),and nagato said he puts his faith in naruto to save the world so his dream will live on in naruto so how cud she be mad at him?

My points are at the plot not being sound in some of its stories. For a man who believes he?s god it?s not realistic to decide to have faith in another one who is not a god like himself. Besides the bijuu where the aim of his life.

*ok yes the dnzou thing was not stressed on but remember it wasnt the vilagers who made him kage, it was the fire country council and fudal lord they might not kno the full siuation,it was obvious the vilage was against it (shikamaru's fathers reaction) plus it was emergency but i do agree with you to a certain degree i jus think kishi didnt stress on that issue thats all

Of course it wasn?t the villagers, but do you really think it?s logical for those in the Firecountry to just believe in Danzou, who ran away to a meeting instead of helping the villagers when he is a strong man? I cannot agree, strong men are the one who must fight in battles, he just said he was fit and they believed him in spite of not doing anything to avoid Konoha?s destruction.

*the third point i can agree with

*madara/tobi found sasuke on his way to konoha and said "it is within my power dont underestimate me", sasuke was surprised that he found him, so i guess as he says its "within his powers" and hopefuly kishi explains

*ok "maybe" madara manipulted the story somewhat but in the begining of the story sasuke was ur lying stop the BS for a while, the only reason sasuke thinks itachi didnt just kill the clan for his own selfish reasons is cuz itachi was crying and the itachi sasuke grew up with wudnt be expected to do a thing like that so sasuke decided to beleive madara because of what he remebered from the night of the murder and who itachi was as a person

But I?m not speaking specifically about Itachi, there?s no reason for Sasuke to believe that the Demon fox?s attack was a natural disaster, as he has previously spoken to the fox, and Itachi has told him that it was Madara who attacked the village 16 years ago.

And about the Uchiha?s living in another neighbourhood because they were hated, come on, they were the strongest! Maybe they just chose to, in order to be able to train their children together? or because they felt a bit superior as a clan. Whatever, there's something Madara is not telling us.

* sasuke said he was pissed off so if the samuarais come at him he wont hold back he wasnt mad at them, we dont kno exactly why he is mad, its probly cuz he was btrayed or cuz they are many obstacles betwen him and danzou who knows

I agree about this, it seems he's mad at being attacked.

But my 2 main points were that; 1) Sasuke has very terribly bad-guy-like moments but he's not super-bad the whole time 2) it?s just silly for an Akatsuki member to appear there and for the kages to think only about Sasuke. If another Akatsuki is there, intellingent Kages would try to find the whole of them.

* *ok naruto begging was mega weak to me too cuz im a uzumaki naruto fan but naruto not helpin danzou wud be like the republicans cing a guy with a gun and allowing him to shoot obama becuz he is a demrocrat and they wanted a republican in the white house.

LOL, cannot say as I am from another country. I meant to say that it would have been logical for him to try to speak to Raikage, but not to bow in front of him.

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

as almost everyone else said the black shadow is just sasukes anger like when naruto becomes angery they do the same thing.

sasuke will be in another good fight but i think the demon guy cant remember his name may get hurt when going for danzo

i think madara will tell naruto where sasuke is

madara escapes un touched reason there showing info on madara for later so naruto can figure out a plan

naruto will go and save sasuke
i think he may show up after sakura when she like " naruto save sasuke". because someone is fighting sasuke to the death and only naruto will be able to save the other main caracter.
this may put him in line for holkage showing everyone his power and intelligence

Sasuke is beyond saving now, DO NOT forget in sasukes eyes konoha is responsible for the death of his brother and the sacrifice of everyone he loved. sasuke never killed people unless he had to, until now, this is a completely new sasuke. he no longer cares for people that stand in the way of his revenge, and that speech naruto gave nagato wont do anything to sasuke, but probably make sasuke even angrier. i also thing sasuke will try to kill zetsu for betraying him.

and about the shadow behind sauske, i guess we are prolonging that topic too much, its nothing but how sasuke is filled with hatred and anger. any comments who is stronger raikage or sasuke? both are fast, both are filled with revenge and anger and after all he is one kage...so

sasuke will kill the raikage, as you saw he killed all those samurai with out any effort. raikage has no bloodline, no beast, no chance

 

[SageD]

Wow. Strong words. Imagine that... Naruto leaving the village. That would be a hell of a twist. How about Naruto starts his own team which in the future will lead to his own village. Just a thought.

yea that's what is likely to happen kishsi has been throwing in alot of plot twist in the manga also i seem hime travleing arounf like J man.

 

[SageD]

i dont think hes gonna leave the village not after all hes done, i think hes gonna follow jiryias dream of peace in the ninja world and will become hokage, and madara i think isnt madara he keeps saying his name constatly to make them think hes madara thats my opinion. about the sasuke thing yea i think so to, we'll kno more next week

but to do that he wiill have to leave the village just about everyone in the village agree that :sasuke: needs to be stopped so to save him he will have to leave to spread peace.

 

[askater1130]

no no no i think that sasuke wont die in this battle he will kill raikage but he will not be able kill danzo so the akatsuki and sasuke might flee away.........uchiha madara might have actually appeared to distract naruto kakashi and yamato..............i think so may be kishi is confusing us a little bit again

of course sasuke won't loose remember wen he fought killer bee sasuke got close to him and said no1s done that since my brother and they beat killer bee pretty much if he didnt flee how does the raikage have a chance of beating the person that beat his brother

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

and not only that sasuke is now fighting to kill not to capture or show mercy

 

[SageD]

i know that madara (if he wanted to) could hav captured naru...kakashi and the other guy lil bind trap really is nothing for madara...his interest in naruto and the events that happened with the pain fight shows that it bothers him...how could a lil brat make some 1 as far gone into THE THE DARK SIDE as nagato change..hell naruto pulled a luke and vader by changing nagato... and this worries and intrigues madara im sure of it...also when kakashi threatend him he said he had a plan for that....that shows he calculates every possibility... he didnt bust in there without a plan incase they attack him...as for the moon plan...i hav no clue...but im sure now its not a jutsu but a setup of some sort...now about his 3rd person reference 4 himself yea its wierd almost like he want u to believe him...or he could b some what sarcastic...up to how u read it...remembering what he said bout nagatos jutsu..who knows tobi might b a remnant of madara and needed naga and cero to turn him back...like advent children lol

Yea I totally agree I belevie that the Moon Eye plan is turing everyone against :sasuke: and force :naruto: to finally make the decision j man and itachi told :naruto: he will have to make :sasuke: or the village/peace.

 

[SageD]

OFF Topic Question: Just wondering, we havent seen Sasuke do anything with his brother Itachi's eye's..Is sasuke still carrying them in a freezer bag in that Oro-shirt of his??

Just a thought, but Madara said after Itachi was dead. "so much for I won't touch Konoha", Have we actually found out the truth about what happened with Itachi and the Uchiha clan? did madara tell a little truth or was it all BS?
What if itachi had to kill his own clan to save konoha from madara, take the blame while madara hid in the shadows. Itachi then let sasuke live because he was the closest thing to him and had to get sasuke to hate him enough to become strong enough to kill him.

Then maybe one day appose madara? Itachi died and feared madara would blacken sasukes heart so he gave naruto some of his power and sasuke the amarutsu(Black flames) to kill madara? Sound plausible?

Anyways i hope we find out black zetsus power, what madara tells naruto and raikage vs. sasuke battle

I think Madara has the eyes

 

[DarkSakuraAngel736]

My guess on the Sasuke vs. Raikage fight is that it will take awhile but, be interrupted at some point. I won't say who wins because we don't know anything about Raikage except that he's a kage and supposedly stronger than Killer Bee.

As for Madara reffering to himself in third person grimtage made a very interesting post on this. It's in the "Kakashi/Yamato/Naruto vs Madara" thread. To sum it up, they explain that when the japanese refer to themselves as we would use the word 'me' they use their name. So, the translator might have thought that Kakashi's question("So you admit that you're Uchiha Madara") would look out of place if Madara says"None of your attacks will work on me". Go check out the original post if you're still confused.

p.s. Anyone no what happened to the icons below the box you type your post in?