EMS Sasuke VS KCM Naruto

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BenjerminGaye

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I said it before and I'll say it again. sauce isn't dodging 14 frs. And if he tanks it, the blast radius from the 14 frs hold him in place for naruto to rip him a new one with cho frs
 

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Naruto wins. Without the legged Susanoo he remains with final Susanoo at most and his final Susanoo has a town level durability at most when KCM Naruto's normal FRS is town level in terms of destructive capacity and his Chou Odama Rasenshuriken is higher than just city level in terms of destructive capacity, so Sasuke couldn't tank his attacks even with Susanoo, especially if Naruto were to use clones launching them at the same time
 

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Naruto wins. Without the legged Susanoo he remains with final Susanoo at most and his final Susanoo has a town level durability at most when KCM Naruto's normal FRS is town level in terms of destructive capacity and his Chou Odama Rasenshuriken is higher than just city level in terms of destructive capacity, so Sasuke couldn't tank his attacks even with Susanoo, especially if Naruto were to use clones launching them at the same time
Didn't think into it this far... Yea his final Susano has town level durability while PS has city level. FRS is city level+ while chou Odama is considered greater, but has no actual scaling feat on OBD. So you are correct, KCM has all the means required to destroy a Final Susano. Moreover, every feat apart from intelligence and perception goes to Naruto. Brute force, speed, genjutsu immune, and massively hypersonic reactions. Sasuke has no way of winning this fight, at all.
 

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Sasuke takes this mid diff at the absolute most. Naruto's speed, which he only uses in short bursts anyway will be of no issue when Sasuke can react to and keep up with Juubito who is in another world of speed. Naruto's attacks will not be damaging Final Susano'o in the slightest. I don't know how people can speak with such confidence about it's durability when it wasn't even given a defensive feat. What we do know is that ordinary Rasengan variants will get blocked and Rasenshuriken and Chou Odama Rasenshuriken get eaten by Enton. They won't even hit. Naruto could use them in conjunction with clones and fire as much as 17. Enton Yasaka Magatama eat them all. In fact, if Naruto does that, he seals his fate as it will swamp the entire battlefield in black flames, giving him less running space and prepping a massive Kirin. If this is KCM Naruto before he becomes friends with Kurama, then genjutsu will be a massive threat to Naruto as well. If not, then it's a not factor. I doubt Sasuke even needs it anyway.
 

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I don't know how people can speak with such confidence about it's durability when it wasn't even given a defensive feat.
Its because a skeletal allowed Itachi to survive Kirin, which is undeniably stronger than FRS going by what we've seen in the manga, and Sasuke's Final Susanoo is like 3 levels above a skeletal.
 

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Its because a skeletal allowed Itachi to survive Kirin, which is undeniably stronger than FRS going by what we've seen in the manga, and Sasuke's Final Susanoo is like 3 levels above a skeletal.
Wrong. Itachi survived thanks to his final Susanoo, not the skeletal one. Itachi wasn't suicidal enough to take the risk in not using his full defense against the attack
 

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Wrong. Itachi survived thanks to his final Susanoo, not the skeletal one. Itachi wasn't suicidal enough to take the risk in not using his full defense against the attack
His Final Susanoo wields Yata Mirror, if he really called it out to tank Kirin then Kirin would have been repelled given the fact that it was indeed blocked by Susanoo.

Not to mention the Skeletal Susanoo is the Susanoo that reappeared when he got up.
 

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His Final Susanoo wields Yata Mirror, if he really called it out to tank Kirin then Kirin would have been repelled given the fact that it was indeed blocked by Susanoo.
Kirin is natural lightning. Yata only repels elemental attacks according to hype, so even by hype, it shouldn't be able to repel natural lightning coming from outside environment(not made of elemental chakra). And even if it could, it is highly likely it's only an hyperbole. To which extent this actual hyperbole is valid is unknown by us, so there is actually no proof it could have repel it like you claim

Furthermore, don't forget Kirin only protects the front of Susanoo. It's even possible that yata didn't manage to protect against kirin, for the simple reason that the attack was coming from above

Not to mention the Skeletal Susanoo is the Susanoo that reappeared when he got up.
His final Susanoo was destroyed by Kirin given the fact that even despite it, he got greatly injured. After he got up, he was simply reforming the Susanoo from the skeletal one to his final one
 

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Wrong. Itachi survived thanks to his final Susanoo, not the skeletal one. Itachi wasn't suicidal enough to take the risk in not using his full defense against the attack
Amaterasu and Enton > FRS. Shots Amaterasu or an Enton arrow or Magatama in the Rasenshurikens way, turns it into Amaterasu and controls it with Enton. Sasuke's legless Susanoo used an arrow which had the same size as Naruto's Chou Oodama Rasenshuriken. That Sasuke falls for a FRS is unexpected. It's bs when Sasuke can easily counter it.

Also, the Rasenshuriken works on a cellular level. What Sandaime Raikage's body tanked comfortably, won't destroy Susanoo, which ribcage got merely cracks from Tsunade's full powered punch.

And according to the databook, Yata would render all attacks useless, no matter of their properties.
 

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Wrong. Itachi survived thanks to his final Susanoo, not the skeletal one. Itachi wasn't suicidal enough to take the risk in not using his full defense against the attack
Ribcage is the fastest susano'o to bring out. Anything above ribcage takes time. A good example of this is PS needing to stabalize, or that mask thing that has to slowly cover up V2's head. Itachi couldn't have brought out his final susano'o in 0.001 seconds. It's just not feasible no matter how you try to force it. The fact that it's ribcage which appeared there after, and not his final susano'o simply confirms this.

Ribcage Susano'o has shown to tank Kirin, chou odama Rasengan, Liger bomb.
V3 susano'o was shown to tank Hirudora, Byakugo punch, Super aggravated rock punch, Juubi's storm
V4 Susano'o was shown to tank a TBB

The mere fact that the 3rd raikage tanked a Rasenshuriken is enough evidence to support that it's feat are blown way out of proportion by it's fans, and that it will not penetrate even a ribcage susano'o <--- Thi ssupported by the fact that Madara had to be pulled out of his Ribcage to be affected by a rasenshuriken.

Thus far, there is no evidence in the manga to support any form of rasengan breaking a V2 susano'o, let alone V4. Any other claim is absurd and completely fanbased. Naruto's only hope is to tunnel his chakra arms below ground and hit susano'o from underneath, but this is also defeated by the fact that the EMS see's chakra through solid objects therefore allowing sasuke ample time to form a defence; If only that being to sit atop Aoda. There's no way KCM naruto pushes EMS Sasuke past Mid. Rasenshuriken isn't busting a Ribcage susano'o, and Chou Rasenshuriken isn't busting a V3, let alone a V4. at best, naruto can cut a hole in Susano'o with his chou rasenshuriken, but that's assuming sasuke doesn't simply and effortlessly shoot down all incoming rasenshuriken with Enton magatamas.

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Kirin is natural lightning. Yata only repels elemental attacks according to hype, so even by hype, it shouldn't be able to repel natural lightning coming from outside environment(not made of elemental chakra). And even if it could, it is highly likely it's only an hyperbole. To which extent this actual hyperbole is valid is unknown by us, so there is actually no proof it could have repel it like you claim
Another false claim made by naruto fans and itachi haters. An explosive tag attached to a kunai is completely natural. A kunai is made of natural metal; The tags are made of natural materials to produce an explosive; The fire from the explosion is natural fire. All of this is completely natural and has nothing to do with chakra, yet yata effortlessly repelled them. The claim that yata's hype is probably a hyperbole is just another excuse Itachi haters make. The mere fact that tanked a storm like this (filled with natural lightning and vortexes ) which completely destroyed the ground around his susano'o, just makes the claim that 1 bolt of lightning not only shattered yata, but also shattered Itachi's final susano'o. It's clear that it was Ribcage which sustained the power of that bolt of lightning, and hence why itachi took some minor damage.
 
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