Why Zabuza's Silent Killing is that dangerous for elite ninja

[ShaneEyyy]

Few people say on here that Zabuza's Silent Killing isn't enough for High Jounin+ ninja, I don't think you guys understand the extend of his Silent Killing.

Zabuza was able to slightly slash Kakashi when Haku intercepted Kakashi:

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Now, we can all agree that if Kakashi wasn't holding Haku, he would have avoided the slash, right? Well lets look in this situation here:

1. Zabuza's sword wasn't fully regenerated, if it was he would have cut at least 5-10 inches deeper in Kakashi so it would would be fatal.

2. Zabuza attacked from in front of Kakashi, if he attacked from behind Kakashi would have been a goner because attacking from behind gives way less reaction time than reacting to a attack in front of you:

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This shows just how effective it is to attack an opponent from behind and attacking from behind is what Zabuza always does:

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3. The average speed it seems for Jounin/Sannin/Kage/Akatsuki according to the stats in the data book is 4/5. Kakashi has a 4.5/5 for speed yet he still got cut. There's very few ninja who have a speed greater than 4.5/5, and the only people according to the data book that has a 5/5 for speed is Guy and Itachi.

4. Kakashi had a 3 tomoe Sharingan out when he got cut. Sharingan, especially with Kakashi's mastery of it, increases his reflexes greatly and helps him predict and see through one's moves. Even with his Sharingan, he still got cut.

With all of these factors, someone as fast as Kakashi still got cut. This proves Zabuza could take out other elite opponents with Silent Killing such as Darui, Hidan, Kitsuchi, Chiyo, Mifune, etc.


With Zabuza's ease of getting behind opponents, taking them out is not a difficult task to do because his sword has great range for attacking. His Kubikiribocho shouldn't be underrated because it states in the manga that the sword his half of his power:

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This sword is what makes his Silent Killing so deadly. Zabuza has shown to even kill Special Jounin with just a tanto:

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Give Zabuza his huge sword, a couple Water Clones and he is taking down High Jounin+ ninja.


Also, Zabuza was said to have the greatest Silent Killing in history, no one coming even close to him. This further implies just how dangerous and powerful his Silent Killing is.


You can read this to get a better understanding on what Zabuza if fully capable of:

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Zabuza is an assassin, he attacks without his opponents even knowing what's going on. This gives him the potential to even take out Kage level ninja like Mei, Tsunade, 4th Kazekage, etc. Before you call me crazy, allow me to explain. Mei, Tsunade, and the 4th Kazekage don't have sensing abilities and it's debatable if Zabuza's speed is greater. Well for one Zabuza has a 4/5 for speed in the data book, which is greater than Tsunade's 3.5/5, so it's debatable for the others. If one of them is walking in a forest or something, which most battles in the series takes place, if Zabuza is hiding in the trees, they don't even know what's about to happen. The Kazekage's counter to Silent Killing is his Gold Dust, however, he would only know to use it if he knows who he is facing or what's even going on. His gold dust doesn't defend him on attack like Gaara's sand does.. Thus, Zabuza can potentially take him out with his Silent Killing because the 4th Kazekage definitely doesn't have the reactions that Kakashi has. Since Zabuza will be hidden in the trees, he doesn't need his mist because he's already hidden, thus since his mist won't be in place, the ninja I listed won't even see Zabuza coming or won't know they are about to be attacked because no mist is in place to signal them something is going to happen. This is only a possible scenario though, if Zabuza faced off with any of these ninja he'd lose, but if he is hidden in the trees and uses his best in history Silent Killing, which is why he is the greatest assassin, he has the potential to take them out. If he did this against High Jounin+ level ninja he'd definitely take them out.

In closure, someone such as Kakashi who has a 4.5/5 for speed (which is above average for even Kage Level ninja), the famous Sharingan, and already had experience with Zabuza still got cut with Zabuza's sword not even being fully regenerated proves that other High Jounin-Low Kage level ninja like Darui, Kitsuchi, Hidan, Chiyo, Mifune, etc. are likely to fall to Zabuza (If anyone would like to debate those ninja I listed, be my guest).

Zabuza is Low Kage level because he's capable of even beating High Jounin level ninja like Asuma, Kankuro, potentially Lee, Sakura, etc. and he's even capable of beating ninja like Darui and the others I listed above all because of his Silent Killing.


Look children, I'm not trying to have **** *** with Zabuza, I'm just saying

 

[The Necromancer]

Do you ever post a thread that doesn't wank Zabuza?

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Do you ever post a thread that doesn't wank Zabuza?

Yeah troll threads but they get deleted.

Look buddy why don't you make like a hockey player and get the puck outta here alright?

 

[Xāvî1]

solos all except itachi

 

[HiddenSound]

Yeah troll threads but they get deleted.

Look buddy why don't you make like a hockey player and get the puck outta here alright?

I thought that was pretty funny Lol

OT: Not finished reading yet, but I can see you put good effort into this.

 

[Shinobi2012]

The only one can defend against the silent killing technique is through the sharingans ability to see chakra or through the use of fuuton justu or some type of surrounding constant defense like a rotation or suunsano.

Anyone else in that situation would be killed before they even knew what was happening.

Its that simple.

And your confused about one thing though,the average speed of a jonin is 3 not 4.

1= genin 2= chuunin 3=jonin 4 = kage 5=mastery

And lastly special jonin are not above jonin they are chuunin who specialize in one category to the point that their skills in that area surpass that of jonin who are superior to chunin in every category.

 

[The Necromancer]

The only one can defend against the silent killing technique is through the sharingans ability to see chakra or through the use of fuuton justu.

Anyone else in that situation would be killed before they even knew what was happening.

Its that simple.

And your confused about one thing though,the average speed of a jonin is 3 not 4.

1= genin 2= chuunin 3=jonin 4 = kage 5=mastery

Actually the hidden mist obstructs the sharingan, rinnegan, and byakugan.

 

[Kαmi]

Yeah troll threads but they get deleted.

Look buddy why don't you make like a hockey player and get the puck outta here alright?

Even though I agree you wank Zabuza a lot, I found this kinda funny Lol

OT: I agree that Zabuza's killing technique is underrated. It's one of the only things that would allow Zabuza to defeat opponents even stronger than him with just this jutsu. However, a lot of time in the manga has passed since this arc so we've seen plenty of shinobis with techniques to counter this which is why it gets underrated.

 

[GrayParadise]

Stop this madness. There are multiple ways Kakashi could've dodged that fodder.

He could've either stepped back (his sharingan would've seen that swing coming and gave him reaction time), or if it was behind he would stepped forward (Sharingan would've seen it coming and he'd have dodged it).

Susanoo arrow speed>>>Zabuza sword swing speed, and he avoided that, so Zabuza's swing was childs play.

 

[Shinobi2012]

Actually the hidden mist obstructs the sharingan, rinnegan, and byakugan.

No it doesn't.

In order for it to work you don't track the mist you track the person committing an attack and the chakra surround that attack is high lighted.

People have a chakra cloak surrounding them and that is what the sharigan can pick up.

The byakugan detects the inner chakra system it has nothing to do with sensing the mist itself.

 

[The Necromancer]

No it doesn't.

In order for it to work you don't track the mist you track the person committing an attack and the chakra surround that attack is high lighted.

People have a chakra cloak surrounding them and that is what the sharigan can pick up.

The byakugan detects the inner chakra system it has nothing to do with sensing the mist itself.

You're right about the byakugan, but the sharingan and rinnegan are completely useless against it.

 

[Joker]

Orochimaru still rapes. v_v

 

[ShaneEyyy]

The only one can defend against the silent killing technique is through the sharingans ability to see chakra or through the use of fuuton justu or some type of surrounding constant defense like a rotation or suunsano.

Anyone else in that situation would be killed before they even knew what was happening.

Its that simple.

And your confused about one thing though,the average speed of a jonin is 3 not 4.

1= genin 2= chuunin 3=jonin 4 = kage 5=mastery

And lastly special jonin are not above jonin they are chuunin who specialize in one category to the point that their skills in that area surpass that of jonin who are superior to chunin in every category.

4 being Kage level that u say makes my argument even stronger. I know Special Jounin aren't as skilled as a Jounin, I was just saying he could take a skilled ninja down with just a tanto, which has barely any length to it, at least compared to his huge sword.

Actually the hidden mist obstructs the sharingan, rinnegan, and byakugan.

Just the Sharingan and Rinnegan.

Even though I agree you wank Zabuza a lot, I found this kinda funny Lol

OT: I agree that Zabuza's killing technique is underrated. It's one of the only things that would allow Zabuza to defeat opponents even stronger than him with just this jutsu. However, a lot of time in the manga has passed since this arc so we've seen plenty of shinobis with techniques to counter this which is why it gets underrated.

Exactly. But people need to remember all the techs we are seeing now are from the top 5 greatest ninja of history, just because a ninja doesn't compare to the top 5 doesn't necessarily mean they'e fodder and should be underrated. I know u didn't call him a fodder but I'm just making a point

 

[sasukekingofuchiha]

who has he killed again? who is the jonin level ninja ? oh just some fodder

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

who has he killed again? who is the jonin level ninja ? oh just some fodder

Last time I checked... he practically shit on Kakashi during their first fight. Needed to be saved. Also, during the war he was moving around slaying countless shinobi. Many of which were at Chunin or Jounin level.



OT: Silent killing is easily underrated. It heavily hurts people who are not sensors, or people who lack something like the Byakugan, Sharingan, and Rinnegan (even then these are susceptible to partial vision impairment).


As you go up in the tiers though, many people have reflexes and/or abilities that can be used to contend with Silent Killing and the Hidden Mist Jutsu.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Last time I checked... he practically shit on Kakashi during their first fight. Needed to be saved. Also, during the war he was moving around slaying countless shinobi. Many of which were at Chunin or Jounin level.



OT: Silent killing is easily underrated. It heavily hurts people who are not sensors, or people who lack something like the Byakugan, Sharingan, and Rinnegan (even then these are susceptible to partial vision impairment).


As you go up in the tiers though, many people have reflexes and/or abilities that can be used to contend with Silent Killing and the Hidden Mist Jutsu.

Yeah I put Zabuza as low kage, check out my tier list if you're interested:

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[awesomeseimei]

The thing is, some good old Body Flicker should be pretty deadly no? Kind of like Sai blitzed Edo Sasori and Deidara, why don't more people so this? Just like the hax Replacement Jutsu, it isn't used because if it was, everyone could have potentially beaten anyone. Silent Killing is pretty hax too, but Kishi limited it.

I guess sensors can still sense Zabuza in the mist though. So maybe a sensor with really good reflexes would have a chance.