EMS Sasuke VS KCM Naruto

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Mitarashi

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-Irrelevant as he doesn't need to avoid it, also, why don't you post the scans that happened after he threw it?


Pain dodged it with a loss of only one body.

His Chakra arms move faster than most even Muu can react.

Mu could react, he simply though Jinton was going to shoot before Naruto could reach him not knowing of the chakra arms. Not to mention Sasuke's Sharingan lets him react faster than Mu can.



Log off for this incredibly stupid wank filled statement. Naruto can never be comparable to Hiraishin in speed. Hiraishin is instant, faster than the speed of light as its instant. Naruto is nowhere near the speed of light let alone comparable to Hiraishin.



This was never shown in the manga. I do see a scan of Sasuke tracking Juubito's movements.
Did that FRS, or did it not, just cross a large crater and KILL one of the BEST sensor in the manga's body in SAGE MODE?


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Haha, no.

Did Naruto or did he not just Dodge the max speed Raikage in the exact same manor as His father, Minato did with Hiraishin? 3 people there that have SEEN him battle and fought AGAINST him compare it to you, don't cry when Manga facts > your Sausage delusions.

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Nice reaction time by Madara's EMS and Obito's MS/Rinnegan, not to mention a FRS was ON PAR with that speed.

/Solod.
 

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Did that FRS, or did it not, just cross a large crater and KILL one of the BEST sensor in the manga's body in SAGE MODE?
Did every single one of those bodies except for Animal Path (Who had to be saved by Human Path) evade that attack?

Yes they did, so please stop fapping to FRS's speed.




Haha, no.

Did Naruto or did he not just Dodge the max speed Raikage in the exact same manor as His father, Minato did with Hiraishin? 3 people there that have SEEN him battle and fought AGAINST him compare it to you, don't cry when Manga facts > your Sausage delusions.
Minato and Naruto dodging the same person doesn't mean they are close in speed. Cause Hiraishin>>>>>>>FTL>Light Speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto's speed.

-Did they say Naruto is as fast as Minato when using Hiraishin?

No. The only thing that was noted is that Naruto was fast enough to evade Ay just like his father. If you really think Naruto is comparable to Hiraishin speed then I'm not going to bother discussing anything with you....the wank is very very very real with this shit.


Nice reaction time by Madara's EMS and Obito's MS/Rinnegan, not to mention a FRS was ON PAR with that speed.
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Hop off pal. Juubito speed>FRS speed. Obito phased through that shit with ease and Madara only took the kick cause if he had defended, the rest of them would have bombarded him and he would have been disconnected anyway.
 

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Did every single one of those bodies except for Animal Path (Who had to be saved by Human Path) evade that attack?

Yes they did, so please stop fapping to FRS's speed.





Minato and Naruto dodging the same person doesn't mean they are close in speed. Cause Hiraishin>>>>>>>FTL>Light Speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto's speed.

-Did they say Naruto is as fast as Minato when using Hiraishin?

No. The only thing that was noted is that Naruto was fast enough to evade Ay just like his father. If you really think Naruto is comparable to Hiraishin speed then I'm not going to bother discussing anything with you....the wank is very very very real with this shit.




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Hop off pal. Juubito speed>FRS speed. Obito phased through that shit with ease and Madara only took the kick cause if he had defended, the rest of them would have bombarded him and he would have been disconnected anyway.
Holy shit you're an ignorant fanboy.

How many bodies does Sausage have? 1? Stop fapping to the fact that you think EMS > 6 people's shared vision + Best sensory in the manga.


FTG>Lightspeed?
Are you retarded?

The fact of the matter is that KCM Naruto's speed blitz is a hell of a lot faster than anything Sausage can do, and even if he IS tracking, like he did against rock lee, he ain't blocking it.


So Madara couldn't have just used ST? Or grew another arm?
baka.
 

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Did that FRS, or did it not, just cross a large crater and KILL one of the BEST sensor in the manga's body in SAGE MODE?


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Haha, no.

Did Naruto or did he not just Dodge the max speed Raikage in the exact same manor as His father, Minato did with Hiraishin? 3 people there that have SEEN him battle and fought AGAINST him compare it to you, don't cry when Manga facts > your Sausage delusions.

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Nice reaction time by Madara's EMS and Obito's MS/Rinnegan, not to mention a FRS was ON PAR with that speed.

/Solod.
Naruto did to Ay; Except, instead of ducking, he he leaned to the left. Ay's momentum flung him past naruto, there's nothing suggesting Naruto 'ran around ay' or anything Naruto fans try to purport as fact. The only facts in the manga is SM naruto was fast enough to dodge raikage, and KCM naruto was fast enough to dodge V2 Ay. Naruto is no where as fast as Ay; Furthermore, Sasuke dodged V1 Ay and V1 Bee( who's as fast or faster than V1 Ay), yet none of you naruto fanboys use that info to tout Sasuke's speed. Dodging =/= Foot speed. Naruto can't blitz Sasuke. KcM naruto is only about as fast V1 Ay as displayed in the manga during their foot races. Anything else is a lie only supported by fanboys.

@bold: Obito did what he always does and phased through the attack. Obito is slow as shit and has never been shown to dodge an attack, he only phases through. Madara, on the other hand. I can't believe you're trying to compare a Kyuubi cloak enhanced rock lee to naruto. Lmfao. Base Lee is already blindingly fast. Naruto in any form ain't as fast as a Cloaked rock lee. Gated lee/Guy can break the sound barrier already.
 
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Holy shit you're an ignorant fanboy.

How many bodies does Sausage have? 1? Stop fapping to the fact that you think EMS > 6 people's shared vision + Best sensory in the manga.
He doesn't need to have 6 bodies to dodge FRS you ****. He's faster than any of those bodies who evaded going by feats so he easily dodges FRS with no problem at all.

1. Nagato can't sense chakra through Pain, don't know where you are getting this sensor shit from, also one of the best in the manga? lmao, not by feats.

2. Sharingan pre cog lets him see it coming just how sensing would let anyone see it coming, but to a better degree, moot point.

FTG>Lightspeed?
Are you retarded?
You really are moron. You do know that Hiraishin is INSTANTANEOUS right?

Instantaneous>Light speed, cause light speed is movement, instantaneous isn't. Please open a damn science book before replying.

The fact of the matter is that KCM Naruto's speed blitz is a hell of a lot faster than anything Sausage can do, and even if he IS tracking, like he did against rock lee, he ain't blocking it.
Sasuke doesn't need to do anything faster than KCM Naruto's speed blitz, where do you get this BS from. The simple fact is he activates a level 4 Susanoo and tanks it, or he activates Perfect Susanoo and tanks it.

-Level 4 EMS Susanoo would tank a standard FRS with no damage, so would PS.

So Madara couldn't have just used ST? Or grew another arm?
baka.
You mean the same abilities he hasn't shown ever since his revival in chapter 560? Not to mention you've ignored the scan of him tracking Juubito, twice now. Calls me a fanboy but ignores the part of my argument that shits on his....lmao, log off and go back to bed.
 

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Naruto did to Ay; Except, instead of ducking, he he leaned to the left. Ay's momentum flung him past naruto, there's nothing suggesting Naruto 'ran around ay' or anything Naruto fans try to purport as fact. The only facts in the manga is SM naruto was fast enough to dodge raikage, and KCM naruto was fast enough to dodge V2 Ay. Naruto is no where as fast as Ay; Furthermore, Sasuke dodged V1 Ay and V1 Bee( who's as fast or faster than V1 Ay), yet none of you naruto fanboys use that info to tout Sasuke's speed. Dodging =/= Foot speed. Naruto can't blitz Sasuke. KcM naruto is only about as fast V1 Ay as displayed in the manga during their foot races. Anything else is a lie only supported by fanboys.

@bold: Obito did what he always does and phased through the attack. Obito is slow as shit and has never been shown to dodge an attack, he only phases through. Madara, on the other hand. I can't believe you're trying to compare a Kyuubi cloak enhanced rock lee to naruto. Lmfao. Base Lee is already blindingly fast. Naruto in any form ain't as fast as a Cloaked rock lee. Gated lee/Guy can break the sound barrier already.
He doesn't need to have 6 bodies to dodge FRS you ****. He's faster than any of those bodies who evaded going by feats so he easily dodges FRS with no problem at all.

1. Nagato can't sense chakra through Pain, don't know where you are getting this sensor shit from, also one of the best in the manga? lmao, not by feats.

2. Sharingan pre cog lets him see it coming just how sensing would let anyone see it coming, but to a better degree, moot point.



You really are moron. You do know that Hiraishin is INSTANTANEOUS right?

Instantaneous>Light speed, cause light speed is movement, instantaneous isn't. Please open a damn science book before replying.


Sasuke doesn't need to do anything faster than KCM Naruto's speed blitz, where do you get this BS from. The simple fact is he activates a level 4 Susanoo and tanks it, or he activates Perfect Susanoo and tanks it.

-Level 4 EMS Susanoo would tank a standard FRS with no damage, so would PS.



You mean the same abilities he hasn't shown ever since his revival in chapter 560? Not to mention you've ignored the scan of him tracking Juubito, twice now. Calls me a fanboy but ignores the part of my argument that shits on his....lmao, log off and go back to bed.
NARUTO'S FRS = Cloaked Lee, it's in the scan.
Now, that speed blitzed Madara easily enough, why didn't he use Susano'o?
No answer?
I don't even have to argue with anything else if you can't answer this.

BTW, Speed of light = Universe speed limit, you can't go faster and so it is 'Instant', but you are american.
 

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NARUTO'S FRS = Cloaked Lee, it's in the scan.
Juubito's speed>>>>>Both. Your f*cking point?

Now, that speed blitzed Madara easily enough, why didn't he use Susano'o?
No answer?
He's connected to the Juubi first of all, so he can't use Susanoo as it'd break his connection. Protecting himself is pointless as he's an Edo, he'll regenerate anyway.

I don't even have to argue with anything else if you can't answer this.
I have yet to see a counter for my Juubito scan........the fact you've ignored it twice already shows you've lost this argument. All you are doing now is shitposting.
BTW, Speed of light = Universe speed limit, you can't go faster and so it is 'Instant', but you are american.
Oh god...you really are a moron...:|

-Instantaneous movement will always trump any kind of speed. The sheer fact that Hiraishin isn't movement while Light Speed isn't means that Hiraishin is faster.

-That applies for real life, obviously not manga, anime, or comic books as characters like Superman in his Pre Crisis form move faster than light.

@bold: Yeah, no. It being the fastest speed that can be moved at in real life doesn't make it instant in real life or in manga, anime or comics.

lol, I'm american? Is that suppose to be an insult?
 

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Naruto did to Ay; Except, instead of ducking, he he leaned to the left. Ay's momentum flung him past naruto, there's nothing suggesting Naruto 'ran around ay' or anything Naruto fans try to purport as fact. The only facts in the manga is SM naruto was fast enough to dodge raikage, and KCM naruto was fast enough to dodge V2 Ay. Naruto is no where as fast as Ay; Furthermore, Sasuke dodged V1 Ay and V1 Bee( who's as fast or faster than V1 Ay), yet none of you naruto fanboys use that info to tout Sasuke's speed. Dodging =/= Foot speed. Naruto can't blitz Sasuke. KcM naruto is only about as fast V1 Ay as displayed in the manga during their foot races. Anything else is a lie only supported by fanboys.

@bold: Obito did what he always does and phased through the attack. Obito is slow as shit and has never been shown to dodge an attack, he only phases through. Madara, on the other hand. I can't believe you're trying to compare a Kyuubi cloak enhanced rock lee to naruto. Lmfao. Base Lee is already blindingly fast. Naruto in any form ain't as fast as a Cloaked rock lee. Gated lee/Guy can break the sound barrier already.
Juubito's speed>>>>>Both. Your f*cking point?


He's connected to the Juubi first of all, so he can't use Susanoo as it'd break his connection. Protecting himself is pointless as he's an Edo, he'll regenerate anyway.



I have yet to see a counter for my Juubito scan........the fact you've ignored it twice already shows you've lost this argument. All you are doing now is shitposting.


Oh god...you really are a moron...:|

-Instantaneous movement will always trump any kind of speed. The sheer fact that Hiraishin isn't movement while Light Speed isn't means that Hiraishin is faster.

-That applies for real life, obviously not manga, anime, or comic books as characters like Superman in his Pre Crisis form move faster than light.

@bold: Yeah, no. It being the fastest speed that can be moved at in real life doesn't make it instant in real life or in manga, anime or comics.

lol, I'm american? Is that suppose to be an insult?
Madara's EMS >= Sasukes EMS. If Madara ain't dodging his FRS Sasuke can't either, don't say he couldn't use PS, his PS/Susano'o can cloak himself and the small part of the Juubi, don't be absurd, also if he'd used that he wouldn't have been cut from the Juubi and it would have even stopped the FRS, would it not?

I already countered the Juubito scan, Sure, Sasuke MAY be able to track the movements, but he isn't going to be doing anything about it.
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He tracked it, be he couldn't do ANYTHING. He can't do ANYTHING without a Susano'o up either, and it's not going to come up fast enough to block Naruto's crazy combination of Blitz speed superior reach and a thrown weapon.

Show me the scan that says FTG = Teleportation and not movement.
 

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Your saying FRS = Lee. Lee shouldn't get full credit for blitzing a Madara who was stuck in one place.

Plus Madara was connected to the Juubi.
FRS= Lee's speed at the time of speed blitzing Madara.
He wasn't 'Stuck' at all, he could have used Several jutsu, such as his Gunbai/ST/Mechanical arms/Susano'o if he had time to re-act, but he clearly didn't thus proving that FRS > Susano'o/EMS reaction time.
 

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Madara's EMS >= Sasukes EMS. If Madara ain't dodging his FRS Sasuke can't either, don't say he couldn't use PS, his PS/Susano'o can cloak himself and the small part of the Juubi, don't be absurd, also if he'd used that he wouldn't have been cut from the Juubi and it would have even stopped the FRS, would it not?

I already countered the Juubito scan, Sure, Sasuke MAY be able to track the movements, but he isn't going to be doing anything about it.
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He tracked it, be he couldn't do ANYTHING. He can't do ANYTHING without a Susano'o up either, and it's not going to come up fast enough to block Naruto's crazy combination of Blitz speed superior reach and a thrown weapon.

Show me the scan that says FTG = Teleportation and not movement.
Madara was never hit with FRS.

=/= FRS. Even if Lee moved the same speed to madara as the FRS, it's his Kick madara didn't stop, which moved far faster than his body. Your skewed logic to make this seem remotely plausible makes no sense.
What's worse is, isn't KCM naruto. BM naruto is faster, stronger, and all around better than KCM naruto so, yet again, your logic is a complete fail.
 

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Madara's EMS >= Sasukes EMS. If Madara ain't dodging his FRS Sasuke can't either, don't say he couldn't use PS, his PS/Susano'o can cloak himself and the small part of the Juubi, don't be absurd, also if he'd used that he wouldn't have been cut from the Juubi and it would have even stopped the FRS, would it not?
He's going to use PS while on top of the Juubi?

Gonna need some proof for this statement, it's either he cloaks it all or doesn't cloak it.

Susanoo emanates from the user and the Juubi's cord is connected to the back of his neck, using Susanoo at all would cut the connection.

Not to mention FRS was never thrown at Madara.....

You are moaning about how FRS>Susanoo activation time, yet I've yet to see any proof that Madara intended or even tried to activate Susanoo at that moment. Until you provide, your argument is a fail.

I already countered the Juubito scan, Sure, Sasuke MAY be able to track the movements, but he isn't going to be doing anything about it.
Uh, no, he will be able to. He was able to track Juubito and then hit him only to force Juubito to block.


Madara has reacted to V1 Ay point blank, who is faster than Lee cloaked or not. The only reason he didn't block him is because its pointless. What the hell is the point of blocking Lee when a whole freaking army is coming right at him? Huh? Madara and Sasuke have already dealt with much worse speed wise, this Lee nonsense isn't helping your argument at all.

He tracked it, be he couldn't do ANYTHING. He can't do ANYTHING without a Susano'o up either, and it's not going to come up fast enough to block Naruto's crazy combination of Blitz speed superior reach and a thrown weapon.
It was able to come up before lighting hit Itachi so it'll come up before Naruto reaches him, period. Not debatable. Especially when he can track Naruto's movements.



Show me the scan that says FTG = Teleportation and not movement.
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Who says that Naruto threw the Rasenshuriken the same time Lee moved to Madara..? For mere appearance they needed to hit them synchronous, nothing more.

It's enough to send an Amaterasu Magatama in the FRS's path, to turn it into that flame and control it with Enton. The Rasengan even more hasn't to power to penetrate Susanoo. A Chou Oodama Rasengan didn't put a scratch on Susanoo's ribcage, no chance at dealing damage to higher stages. Susanoo will fodderize all of Naruto's clones with a few blows.
 
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