Can KCM Naruto break a V4 Susanoo???

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No.. Bm would have difficulty breaking it without a continuous TBB..
I don't think so. V4 susanoo has never shown any feats of defending agains a mountain buster atack, however, the bijuu dama has shown is self as a multi mountain buster. The only susanoo we've seen that could tank bijuu dama was PS.

I guess KCM can do it with chou mini bijuu damas and Chou oodama RS.
 

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I don't think so. V4 susanoo has never shown any feats of defending agains a mountain buster atack, however, the bijuu dama has shown is self as a multi mountain buster. The only susanoo we've seen that could tank bijuu dama was PS.

I guess KCM can do it with chou mini bijuu damas and Chou oodama RS.
No. Madara's susano tanked the TBB, not his PS. I am not saying Sasuke's proficiency in v4 is similar to Madara's, nor am I claiming that Sasuke's v4 can tank a single TBB; I simply stated it would have difficulty. So PS hasn't tanked a TBB yet, but obviously can since it's the upgraded version of the v4, which also tanked a (smaller and weaker) TBB.

Mini Biju Damas were tanked by Madara's gunbai, unless you are trying to say gunbai>v4 Susano, I see no validation in your argument. Chou Odama FRS also cannot break v4, so regular chou odama rasengan cannot either. Until you show me Naruto using something more destructive than Kirin, your arguments are pointless.
 
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No. Madara's susano tanked the TBB, not his PS. I am not saying Sasuke's proficiency in v4 is similar to Madara's, nor am I claiming that Sasuke's v4 can tank a single TBB; I simply stated it would have difficulty. So PS hasn't tanked a TBB yet, but obviously can since it's the upgraded version of the v4, which also tanked a (smaller and weaker) TBB.

Mini Biju Damas were tanked by Madara's gunbai, unless you are trying to say gunbai>v4 Susano, I see no validation in your argument. Chou Odama FRS also cannot break v4, so regular chou odama rasengan cannot either. Until you show me Naruto using something more destructive than Kirin, your arguments are pointless.
thats a small tbb
 

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No. Madara's susano tanked the TBB, not his PS. I am not saying Sasuke's proficiency in v4 is similar to Madara's, nor am I claiming that Sasuke's v4 can tank a single TBB; I simply stated it would have difficulty. So PS hasn't tanked a TBB yet, but obviously can since it's the upgraded version of the v4, which also tanked a (smaller and weaker) TBB.

Mini Biju Damas were tanked by Madara's gunbai, unless you are trying to say gunbai>v4 Susano, I see no validation in your argument. Chou Odama FRS also cannot break v4, so regular chou odama rasengan cannot either. Until you show me Naruto using something more destructive than Kirin, your arguments are pointless.
That wasn't madara's V4. V4 isn't kyuubi sized. He was stabilizing his PS. He probably finished by he time the bijuu dama hit it, or almost finished.
Chou oodama RS is more destructive than kirin, at least by the calculation some members did in here.
Madara's gunbai ddin't tank it exactly, madara used some kind of tech to reflect it. However, what I intented is to say that continuous chou mini bijuu damas(plural) + chou oodama RS could possibily do it.
 

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No. Madara's susano tanked the TBB, not his PS. I am not saying Sasuke's proficiency in v4 is similar to Madara's, nor am I claiming that Sasuke's v4 can tank a single TBB; I simply stated it would have difficulty. So PS hasn't tanked a TBB yet, but obviously can since it's the upgraded version of the v4, which also tanked a (smaller and weaker) TBB.

Mini Biju Damas were tanked by Madara's gunbai, unless you are trying to say gunbai>v4 Susano, I see no validation in your argument. Chou Odama FRS also cannot break v4, so regular chou odama rasengan cannot either. Until you show me Naruto using something more destructive than Kirin, your arguments are pointless.
This guy soloed the thread U_U
 

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wats the use!!
once u destroy the susanno,the user calls it up again.the only solution is to destroy the susanno and its user in one big blast!
 

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Can Naruto (with Bijuu Mode Restricted) break a full V4 Susano?
KM doesn't need to break V4 Susanoo tho, just use his chakra arms to pull whoever inside out from underground or kill them. I know it was Kurama who did this ( ) but Kurama is right there to either tell Naruto what to do or switch and do it himself. As for "kill them", KM Naruto shown enough brute strength to crush whoever's inside susanoo, this is what happened when he just tried to hold a boulder ( ). He actually had to train to not smash them.

No.. Bm would have difficulty breaking it without a continuous TBB..
Nah, Naruto shown a tbb that can more than likely 1 hit PS, it's power matched 5 fully powered Bijuus while the tbb that Madara tanks was a normal tbb and wasn't even close to the size BM Naruto made. All Bijuus are about the same size and when the Bijuus combined their tbb it made their size seem small while Full Kurama's tbb was small in comparison. Also I'm pretty sure that was Unstablished PS armor on Kurama since if you look at the arms, it has the same design as the PS so that was most likely the unstabilized PS and it covers Kurama in the stabilized PS.

Look at the size of the tbb Full Kurama used and . Now compare that to this size . Didn't take Naruto that long either. We all know a Jinchuuriki can focus the Bijuu's power better than if the Bijuu was host free.
 

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Level 2 (Skeletal) allowed Itachi to survive it at the cost of Susanoo being destroyed and Kirin is far stronger than anything in KCM Naruto's arsenal (A bit stronger than Oodama FRS). KCM Naruto could destroy a level 2 with enough FRS and one shot it with a Oodama FRS.

-V3 would take FRS with little damage but Oodama FRS would do a lot of damage, it would probably make it near unusable.
-V4 (MS) would take FRS with no damage but Oodama FRS would give it moderate damage.
-V4 (EMS) would tank FRS no damage but Oodama FRS would do little damage.
-Perfect Susanoo obviously tanks both with ease.

@NarutoIndra: Actually, Madara used Perfect Susanoo armored onto Kurama to tank the Bijuu Dama. [ ] [ ] [ ]

Both Madara and Hashirama put up their defenses right before it exploded, Madara armored Susanoo onto Kurama in order to protect it and Hashirama used Hobi while his Mokujin and Mokuryu were destroyed in the blast. Madara tanking it with V4 can't be possible since:

1. Kurama still would have taken the blast as it doesn't cover the whole of it completely and not from all sides.

2. He armored Susanoo onto Kurama during the blast.

Look at the size of the tbb Full Kurama used and . Now compare that to this size . Didn't take Naruto that long either. We all know a Jinchuuriki can focus the Bijuu's power better than if the Bijuu was host free.
I hope you are factoring in the massive size difference between 100% Kurama and 50% Kurama/BM Naruto. If BM Naruto were to make a standard Bijuu Dama, it'd be much much smaller than Full Kurama's standard.

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