After Madara destroys Hashirama..

[Supreme x Uchiha]

Edo Madara will always be stronger than any form of Hashirama. As what will happen to the wood, well he will be there with the alliance to defeated Madara.

Oh shit, this guy is here. I can rest easy now.

So your proud of the fact that Madara basically pull a "Can't beat em, Stole their powers"?

Pretty sad. Hashirama will always be > Edo madara. Mdara has no counter to shinsuusenju.

Madara only needed Rinnegan (which is his own power) to beat Hashirama. I guarantee you Rinnengan Madara can take down Hashirama..

 

[Mitarashi]

So your proud of the fact that Madara basically pull a "Can't beat em, Stole their powers"?

Pretty sad. Hashirama will always be > Edo madara. Mdara has no counter to shinsuusenju.

Madara clearly beat Shinsuusenju in their previous fight, so he does have a counter.
Besides, he has ST/CT/Meteor and every other Rinnegan jutsu, all Chakra natures ectect.
He is superior

 

[Multiply]

You think Madara's being serious? No Rinnegan techs, no wood techs, no PS.. please.

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Madara using PS against a mediocre mokuton technique. Madara already knows his mokuton is dwarfed in comparison to Hashirama. Rinnegan techniques won't be much of a factor in this large scale battle. Besides maybe preta path, but Hashirama is an edo. It's useless essentially. Madara has to be serious to keep Hashirama from simply blowing right past him.

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

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Madara using PS against a mediocre mokuton technique. Madara already knows his mokuton is dwarfed in comparison to Hashirama. Rinnegan techniques won't be much of a factor in this large scale battle. Besides maybe preta path, but Hashirama is an edo. It's useless essentially. Madara has to be serious to keep Hashirama from simply blowing right past him.

Are they not just standing there though? I have yet to see that PS sword swing. Their fight has no panel time so you can't base anything off of it.

 

[Flawž]

Madara clearly beat Shinsuusenju in their previous fight, so he does have a counter.
Besides, he has ST/CT/Meteor and every other Rinnegan jutsu, all Chakra natures ectect.
He is superior

No madara never "beat" shinsuusenju.

Madara only needed Rinnegan (which is his own power) to beat Hashirama. I guarantee you Rinnengan Madara can take down Hashirama..

Proof he can beat hashirama? His strongest power [Which madara himself admitted] is being stalemated by his mokution golems being one of his weaker attacks.

Everything points to the fact that hashirama > madara. Hashirama hasn't even pulled the shinsuusenju which is GG.

Not too mentioned he could drop his gates on madara and madara would not be able to escape it as a full powered juubi couldn't.

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

No madara never "beat" shinsuusenju.



Proof he can beat hashirama? His strongest power [Which madara himself admitted] is being stalemated by his mokution golems being one of his weaker attacks.

Everything points to the fact that hashirama > madara. Hashirama hasn't even pulled the shinsuusenju which is GG.

Not too mentioned he could drop his gates on madara and madara would not be able to escape it as a full powered juubi couldn't.

I said this already. There is no panel time for the fight. It'd be pretty stupid to find out Hashirama was defeated off screen, right?

 

[Multiply]

Are they not just standing there though? I have yet to see that PS sword swing. Their fight has no panel time so you can't base anything off of it.

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Now, as you can clearly see the PS swinging do you concur that Madara is hard pressed to hold Hashirama back? Using one of his strongest techniques against a mediocre mokuton technique...

 

[Waltz]

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Madara using PS against a mediocre mokuton technique. Madara already knows his mokuton is dwarfed in comparison to Hashirama. Rinnegan techniques won't be much of a factor in this large scale battle. Besides maybe preta path, but Hashirama is an edo. It's useless essentially. Madara has to be serious to keep Hashirama from simply blowing right past him.

Cool story.

@bold: You spew this nonsense even after the Rikudō's Dōujutsu has already been showcased? As for Mokuton, Kabuto decided to portray Hashirama's power through Madara, power that was once considered a myth. Madara is able to produce all the jutsu he copied from Hashirama at will and in equal abundance to that of the original; to the point that he has even showcased jutsu Hashirama is yet to produce. Thus far it's been portrayed [even in current events] that Hashirama cannot best The Perfect Susano'o without Shin-Shuusenju as his tactics against it at VOTE all faltered before it's destruction incarnate swords swipes and highly notable defenses. If Hashirama [edo] was truly that superior to Madara he would have bypassed him by now. [Thought this was obvious?]

Thought people understood that an upgraded arsenal simply means that he now has more abilities to tangle with and that his approach to confronting situations may differ.

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Madara is nothing but a zombie.


Pretty sad. Hashirama will always be > Edo madara. Mdara has no counter to shinsuusenju.

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#Inb4: Phases through Shin-shuusenju, stabs Hashirama through the chest.



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[KingHashirama]

Funny how you think that way. But don't care about how Hashirama dies. .

Lmao I swear this is the only series i know of where the fans, fanboy over villains to the extreme.

One piece: "Luffy kick them asses!!!!"

Bleach: "Finna kick some Quincy ass!!!"

Naruto: " SHINOBI DIE!!!!! MADARA KILL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!".


Hashirama and Madara fans just need to give it a rest now and stop talking about them in a VS scenario.... just wait couple of chapters and find out damn it. Calling each other names isn't gonna help anyone.

All we know is Hashirama was the stronger one when they were alive. And the latter still has to prove he is now stronger than Hashirama. What you fans assume about each characters has no relevance. Whether it is your logic of "Rinnegan +EMS + Mokuton > Mokuton + SM" or other bs. Manga does not work in simple ways like that. Each fight has development in it.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Funny how you think that way. But don't care about how Hashirama dies. .

Lmao I swear this is the only series i know of where the fans, fanboy over villains to the extreme.

One piece: "Luffy kick them asses!!!!"

Bleach: "Finna kick some Quincy ass!!!"

Naruto: " SHINOBI DIE!!!!! MADARA KILL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!".

Some people like rooting for the badguys every once in a while.

 

[Vandenreich]

We all know Madara will shit on Hashirama when Hashirama is keeping Madara's strongest technique at bay with a mediocre technique. Seems legit

Madara fans are MAD at you for telling them the truth.

 

[Bronze]

lololol Watlz just soloed Hashirama's riders. As always Waltz, a very logical one. Edo Madara > Hashirama and any form of him. Meteor > Shinsuusenju that everyone is wanking on. The last but not least, Madara Rules the universe

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

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Now, as you can clearly see the PS swinging do you concur that Madara is hard pressed to hold Hashirama back? Using one of his strongest techniques against a mediocre mokuton technique...

Ok.. so you really believe the battle would go the way it is going if they actually had panel time? That's why both Madara and Hashirama haven't taken severe blows from one another yet. It's something that shouldn't happen off screen like what happened to Shikamaru.

 

[Multiply]

Cool story.

@bold: You spew this nonsense even after the Rikudō's Dōujutsu has already been showcased? As for Mokuton, he is able to produce all the jutsu he copied from Hashirama at will and in equal abundance to that of the original. Thus far it's been portrayed [even in current events] that Hashirama cannot best The Perfect Susano'o without Shin-Shuusenju as his tactics against it at VOTE all faltered before it's destruction incarnate swords swipes and highly notable defenses. If Hashirama [edo] was truly that superior to Madara he would have bypassed him by now. [Thought this was obvious?]

Though people understood that an upgraded arsenal simply means that he now has more abilities to tangle with and that his approach to confronting situations will differ.

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#Inb4: Phases through Shin-shuusenju, stabs Hashirama through the chest.



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@Bold, Hashirama phases down through his own Shinsusenju... You seem to forget he's one of the most powerful sensors in the series(No I didn't say most proficient, I said most powerful) and Madara is using his technique.

When you said I spewed nonsense, you didn't even explain my nonsense. I guarantee you attempted to give Nagato's feats to Madara, which is why you didn't even say anything in the end. I want you to explain which rinnegan techniques will harm Hashirama, and I will counter every single one of them U_U.

Hashirama is stalemating Madara's most powerful technique in this current battle with a mediocre technique at best. His technique even tanked a slash from Madara's PS, and is still fighting on par with it...? The only reason Hashirama hasn't blown past Madara is for the sake of plot. Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing character progression from Sasuke, Naruto, Minato, Tobirama, or even Hiruzen. Hashirama is the best candidate to go against current Obito considering he's the largest powerhouse and has sage mode techniques. He's easily the most durable shinobi on the field besides current Obito. He even has techniques that without plot progression being necessary, would have sealed the Juubi from the start... Yet you don't think he couldn't drop rikkudou's gate on Madara's susanoo, or better yet Madara, similar to how he did it to Obito. Hashirama definitely isn't being held back

 

[KingHashirama]

Some people like rooting for the badguys every once in a while.

good for them xD. What you support is sometimes what you become and start to think like.

 

[xcoyote]

Hashirama still smokes him.

 

[Multiply]

Ok.. so you really believe the battle would go the way it is going if they actually had panel time? That's why both Madara and Hashirama haven't taken severe blows from one another yet. It's something that shouldn't happen off screen like what happened to Shikamaru.

Hashirama's mediocre technique tanked Madara's PS slash...

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[Supreme x Uchiha]

@Inanimated - You're not answering my question though.

 

[Multiply]

@Inanimated - You're not answering my question though.

Ask your question and don't disregard my counters to your comments.

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

Ask your question and don't disregard my counters to your comments.

I agree it is a stalemate but.. If their fight had panel time, do you think it'd go the same way?