Mihawk can defeat White Beard

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The reason I believe this is because even though white beard is stronger in brute strength mihawk is younger and have more stamina and is very strong as well. If white beard were to fight mihawk one slip up would cost white ears his life. He would be cut in half by Mihawk's blade
 

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Now now, that's new and interesting...

I see the basis why some people tend to think that Mihawk can defeat Shanks on his own (I don't agree with it),
But to think that Mihawk can even long last against WB is even more interesting...

Mihawk has yet to defeat a Yonko or an Admiral before taking on the World's truly Strongest Man....
 

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Whitebeard........ You mean the white beard that fought the admirals and won against three of them..... That whitebeard!?!? The man that was so feared by the world government and navy, they waged a full out war just to kill him.
The whitebeard who was a par with the pirate king gold D roger.

White beard fought the admirals/navy/warlords while he was sick, dying, and old and still caused unbelievable damage (including fighting the admirals and hammering them), I am not sure if you read the manga, but in the end whne white beard dies (while freaking standing up) it sums up them total damage/wounds he received in the battle........ That number is amazing!!!!!!

In the famous words of vegeta ( It's over 9000 ) ;)
 
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I honestly believe that there were (at least) 4 ppl in OPverse at the time of the war that could either defeat WB or have such a close battle that it could go either way and those are Dragon, Shanks , Mihawk and Garp (Garp was the other one who rivaled Roger and he looked in a bit better shape than old WB ie he wasn't as affected by old age as WB was)

after Rogers death WB and Garp ruled the world, but than a new generation came (with Dragon, Shanks and Mihawk) and a still newer one is on the way atm
 
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I honestly believe that there were (at least) 4 ppl in OPverse at the time of the war that could either defeat WB or have such a close battle that it could go either way and those are Dragon, Shanks , Mihawk and Garp (Garp was the other one who rivaled Roger and he looked in a bit better shape than old WB ie he wasn't as affected by old age as WB was)

after Rogers death WB and Garp ruled the world, but than a new generation came (with Dragon, Shanks and Mihawk) and a still newer one is on the way atm
Do you really intend to put Mihawk above Admirals...?
 
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IMO yes, he can win against Old WB ,though it is a high-very high Dif...



HE is Obviously stronger than Admirals.....
You said 'Obviously' like it has been in the manga or implied somewhere in the manga...
Won't disregard your 'opinion' but in my list Mihawk is just tying with Doflamingo and Doflamingo isn't gonna win against an Admiral or with mid-diff...
 

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I'd disagree. A solo fight makes it even harder to kill WB than a war. Do remember we never even saw Old Whitebeard go all out. He started battle after taking a Damn sword to the chest. Then two magma rockets, and a plethora of bullets, cannons, and sword wounds. The numbers were ridiculous.


You put a man like that out in front of one opponent and he honestly doesn't lose.



Mihawk is certainly a later stage villain, but look at this logically...

1. Zoro has to beat Mihawk OR Shilliew were it to turn out Shilliew beats Mihawk.

A) Mihawk cannot cut diamond
B) Shilliew takes Jozu's fruit: you follow me....
C) Zoro cuts diamond: truly the greatest Swordsmen

2. The final battle will be against the Marines, once Luffy is PK.

3. Thus the final enemies are the Admirals and Marines.

4. If Mihawk is above the admirals... Who's going to challenge the SH's?!

A) Luffy > Zoro

B) Sanji is basically equal with Zoro

If the M3 are at levels defined as above the Admirals... Marineford Part II is gonna be a joke.


Marine HQ would be the frosting on their Murder Cake.



Besides, fight wise WB has more scale. He sent MF and the land around it shaking. Mihawk's greatest feat so far is cutting a wave WB used.as a declaration of war AKA: not even full strength. There's no question of stamina. WB took a sword to the chest, magma bullets to the face and half his brain, 42ish cannon blasts, stab wounds to make a blanket of marines on his chest. And he was STILL just about the strongest on the field.



WB > Mihawk



At best: Mihawk is on admiral level, but he isn't above it.
 
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I'd disagree. A solo fight makes it even harder to kill WB than a war. Do remember we never even saw Old Whitebeard go all out. He started battle after taking a Damn sword to the chest. Then two magma rockets, and a plethora of bullets, cannons, and sword wounds. The numbers were ridiculous.


You put a man like that out in front of one opponent and he honestly doesn't lose.



Mihawk is certainly a later stage villain, but look at this logically...

1. Zoro has to beat Mihawk OR Shilliew were it to turn out Shilliew beats Mihawk.

A) Mihawk cannot cut diamond
B) Shilliew takes Jozu's fruit: you follow me....
C) Zoro cuts diamond: truly the greatest Swordsmen

2. The final battle will be against the Marines, once Luffy is PK.

3. Thus the final enemies are the Admirals and Marines.

4. If Mihawk is above the admirals... Who's going to challenge the SH's?!

A) Luffy > Zoro

B) Sanji is basically equal with Zoro

If the M3 are at levels defined as above the Admirals... Marineford Part II is gonna be a joke.


Marine HQ would be the frosting on their Murder Cake.



Besides, fight wise WB has more scale. He sent MF and the land around it shaking. Mihawk's greatest feat so far is cutting a wave WB used.as a declaration of war AKA: not even full strength. There's no question of stamina. WB took a sword to the chest, magma bullets to the face and half his brain, 42ish cannon blasts, stab wounds to make a blanket of marines on his chest. And he was STILL just about the strongest on the field.



WB > Mihawk



At best: Mihawk is on admiral level, but he isn't above it.
Awesomess at its best U_U
 

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Please the Mihawk fanboyism is far to much these days Mihawk isn't on the same level as Shanks so of course he's not stronger the Whitebeard, to be honest I'd say Mihawk would lose to the other Yonkou and Admirals, people seem to think that the title of the WSS puts him above everybody who has been seen with a sword. Pirates and Marines have other ways of fighting and Whitebeard was a perfect example of this he was extremely powerful barehanded 'but' he could use a blade when he had to.
 

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Do you really intend to put Mihawk above Admirals...?
I'm not the only one

I'd disagree. A solo fight makes it even harder to kill WB than a war. Do remember we never even saw Old Whitebeard go all out. He started battle after taking a Damn sword to the chest. Then two magma rockets, and a plethora of bullets, cannons, and sword wounds. The numbers were ridiculous.


You put a man like that out in front of one opponent and he honestly doesn't lose.



Mihawk is certainly a later stage villain, but look at this logically...

1. Zoro has to beat Mihawk OR Shilliew were it to turn out Shilliew beats Mihawk.

A) Mihawk cannot cut diamond
B) Shilliew takes Jozu's fruit: you follow me....
C) Zoro cuts diamond: truly the greatest Swordsmen

2. The final battle will be against the Marines, once Luffy is PK.

3. Thus the final enemies are the Admirals and Marines.

4. If Mihawk is above the admirals... Who's going to challenge the SH's?!

A) Luffy > Zoro

B) Sanji is basically equal with Zoro

If the M3 are at levels defined as above the Admirals... Marineford Part II is gonna be a joke.


Marine HQ would be the frosting on their Murder Cake.



Besides, fight wise WB has more scale. He sent MF and the land around it shaking. Mihawk's greatest feat so far is cutting a wave WB used.as a declaration of war AKA: not even full strength. There's no question of stamina. WB took a sword to the chest, magma bullets to the face and half his brain, 42ish cannon blasts, stab wounds to make a blanket of marines on his chest. And he was STILL just about the strongest on the field.



WB > Mihawk



At best: Mihawk is on admiral level, but he isn't above it.
this here could be a great argument IF you didn't overlook something very important

Old WB<<Prime WB
Old WB>Admirals
Roger>=Prime WB

Luffy is one day gonna>=Roger
that means that the Admirals you describe as the last enemy are gonna be a cake walk, so we can assume that the admirals as tehy are now (or at least were in the war) are NOT gonna be the final enemy, it is either gonna be a powered up version of them but most likely also new members and Kong and maybe the Gorosei

also
Old Rayleigh<<Prime Rayleigh
Old Rayleigh=Kizaru at the time of the war
Zoro will eventually>=prime Rayleigh
also Zoro will eventually>=Mihawk
so basically at the time Zoro surpasses Mihawk and is the PK's first mate (same as Rayleigh) he will be on about prime Rayleigh level, and to do that the one he needs to surpass is Mihawk (as Zoro is a swordsman) ... so it isn't all that unreasonable to assume that Mihawk is>Admirals

also Mihawk has a very impressive feat (duels with Shanks) and an insane amount of Hype, not to mention how secretive Oda is being about him ... kinda the same as with only a few other characters (none of which are Admirals) Garp, Shanks, Dragon, Mihawk ... before you say that doesn,t matter, it's a manga OFC it matters

there are quite a lot of ppl who would say the top 3 in OP atm are Dragon, Shanks and Mihawk (if we ignore the possibilities of Kong and the Gorosei), but Akainu, BB and such are eventually gonna worm their way up there
 
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You said 'Obviously' like it has been in the manga or implied somewhere in the manga...
Won't disregard your 'opinion' but in my list Mihawk is just tying with Doflamingo and Doflamingo isn't gonna win against an Admiral or with mid-diff...
Well,u r opinion makes sense ...Iam saying that based on Hype ...he is supposed to be a top dog of his Ara & his strength as a SM rivals that of Shanks and corrently stronger than Shanks as a SM ...
If Shanks is nothing more than a SM then he Should be stronger than Shanks since he is the WSS...
IMO if he is weaker than Admirals then the whole consept of Zoro Admiring Mihawk would be pointless....

IMO Only people that are above Mihawk in the whole series are

Roger
Dragon
Grap
WB
Shanks
 
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I'm not the only one



this here could be a great argument IF you didn't overlook something very important

Old WB<<Prime WB
Old WB>Admirals
Roger>=WB

Luffy is one day gonna>=Roger
that means that the Admirals you describe as the last enemy are gonna be a cake walk, so we can assume that the admirals as tehy are now (or at least were in the war) are NOT gonna be the final enemy, it is either gonna be a powered up version of them but most likely also new members and Kong and maybe the Gorosei

also
Old Rayleigh<<Prime Rayleigh
Old Rayleigh=Kizaru at the time of the war
Zoro will eventually>=prime Rayleigh
also Zoro will eventually>=Mihawk
so basically at the time Zoro surpasses Mihawk and is the PK's first mate (same as Rayleigh) he will be on about prime Rayleigh level, and to do that the one he needs to surpass is Mihawk (as Zoro is a swordsman) ... so it isn't all that unreasonable to assume that Mihawk is>Admirals

also Mihawk has a very impressive feat (duels with Shanks) and an insane amount of Hype, not to mention how secretive Oda is being about him ... kinda the same as with only a few other characters (none of which are Admirals) Garp, Shanks, Dragon, Mihawk ... before you say that doesn,t matter, it's a manga OFC it matters

there are quite a lot of ppl who would say the top 3 in OP atm are Dragon, Shanks and Mihawk
I'd actually say Kizaru > old Rayleigh. Honestly it wasn't an all out fight. Kizaru wasn't even serious (though he's never serious). He also used a sword which is Raleigh's forte. He easily could have jumped back and went with Yasaka no Magatama. Kizaru is the troll of that series. He's not even serious at Marineford or against Marco. He's also one of the few who walked out without any notable injuries or blood stains.


Mihawk, WGS, has SWORD duels with Shanks.... So it really isn't as hype as it sounds. In sportsmanship Mihawk is number one so any duel of sorts is ALREADY his advantage. Going all out Shanks > Mihawk.... Which means Shanks isn't going all out in these duels... He's simply holding back and training his sword skills.


Also, who else would they fight other than the WG?! Luffy wouldn't fight them for no reason which means he has to become PK. Which means no one exists as his enemy except the WG on terms of antagonist.


Which means the M3 have to be around Admiral and Fleet admiral levels (whatever level the current ones would be at).


Also if Mihawk is greater than WB.. why didn't he just go kill him? He clearly wasn't happy to be there. Obviously one reason is fighting the Division Captains.... But I mean when it all came to CQB....He doesn't have a reason not to take him down.
 
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