[Discussion] Why does everyone have a problem with obito turning "good"?

[majinbuu1307]

I see a lot of people saying that obito accepting naruto's hand would be a cop out and ruin his character. Would that not bring his character full circle? A redemption move (and possibly sacrifice) would be a good thing for obito. He is not entirely evil, and this whole tobi and no name thing has been a facade. The real obito has been there all along but he has been too blinded and stubborn and distraught over the loss in his life.

Naruto could have easily become like obito if just the slightest thing had gone differently when he was younger. Iruka not accepting him for one. Sakura dying or the village still seeing him as an outcast. Thats how fragile that was to Naruto becoming a bad guy. Obito IS what naruto could have been. Now everyone thinks that because he stops being so stubborn and takes his hand, it's a bad thing. You guys want evil guys to stay evil.... Why? If Hitler had decided, "ok, I won't make the nazis' kill anymore jews" would you say "no, stick to your commitment to that you cop out?"

Seriously people. Are you that surprised... It's been the whole motto of Naruto. Get beaten up by him, see his way of thinking. Gaara, Sasuke to a degree. Nagato. Zabuza(well he didnt beat him up but talked to him, made him cry. and he was one COLD ninja. I for one hope he takes naruto's hand. But... it still seems a little too soon and might be stubborn still.


Also a side note. There is one villain that I really don't see succumbing to TnJ. Madara. So if you want someone who's not gonna stray from being evil, there's him. He fights for the sake of fighting, and just wants to watch the world burn because it suits him at the time.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

I think it's just cliche

 

[chiboy]

I get your point but I guess people wanna see a villain that just wanna see the world burn and doesn't give a tard

 

[Kurome]

Because we got tired of villains with excellent potential being tnj-ed by naruto U_U

 

[majinbuu1307]

I get your point but I guess people wanna see a villain that just wanna see the world burn and doesn't give a tard

Orochimaru still fits that. He will never be accepted back, and is only there because something suits his goals most likely.

 

[chiboy]

Orochimaru still fits that. He will never be accepted back, and is only there because something suits his goals most likely.

Yeah, but there are guys who can solo him so he can't be the ultimate villain

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

Naruto wants them to shake hands and go on there merry way together....

That is a cop out.

A person instigates a world war, which causes the deaths of tens of thousands should never be forgiven, just because he thought he was doing the right thing or because some 16 year old feels sorry for him.

He should be burned at the stake, not some half-ass we cant beat you so lets just forgive him guys.
That is just BS.

 

[majinbuu1307]

Yeah, but there are guy who can solo him so he can't be the ultimate villain

Who could solo him? he just keeps coming back. And he isn't like he was before when itachi took him down. He now has a senju body (zetsu) with wood release, and able to copy any technique (like the zetsu clones albeit at 30 percent power) more chakra, a perfected Edo tensei.... He's pretty good...

 

[majinbuu1307]

Naruto wants them to shake hands and go on there merry way together....

That is a cop out.

A person instigates a world war, which causes the deaths of tens of thousands should never be forgiven, just because he thought he was doing the right thing or because some 16 year old feels sorry for him.

He should be burned at the stake, not some half-ass we cant beat you so lets just forgive him guys.
That is just BS.

No. Not go on their merry way. Obito would have to surrender and live up to what he has done. He would either be executed or pit in a prison or sealed somewhere. I think you didn't read when naruto said he had to answer for what he did, but basically you can stop this. He knows what he is doing is wrong, you can see it in his eyes now. All that is left, is if he is too stuck or stubborn to stop.

 

[Peace Maker]

His not really evil, and for the record. He didnt really killed minato the kyubii did, and so far I dont think He killed someone before, exept when He needs to like self defense... And yeah brehh I want him to go to the good side, and stomp madara with the So6P body of him...

 

[majinbuu1307]

His not really evil, and for the record. He didnt really killed minato the kyubii did, and so far I dont think He killed someone before, exept when He needs to like self defense... And yeah brehh I want him to go to the good side, and stomp madara with the So6P body of him...

He killed Konan. and for that he must rot in jail lol. But i do think he should take naruto's hand and stop this. Letting Madara take the front.

 

[Peace Maker]

He killed Konan. and for that he must rot in jail lol. But i do think he should take naruto's hand and stop this. Letting Madara take the front.

like i said men, self defense... and konan's death litterally means he'll get the rinnegan, it's the path he needs to take to get the juubi so I think theres noting wrong killing her...

 

[chiboy]

Who could solo him? he just keeps coming back. And he isn't like he was before when itachi took him down. He now has a senju body (zetsu) with wood release, and able to copy any technique (like the zetsu clones albeit at 30 percent power) more chakra, a perfected Edo tensei.... He's pretty good...

Naruto, sasuke, bee, even darui gai and kakashi would own him and having ones power doesn't mean you can use it to its highest capacity ask yamato, danzo,obito, madara and jetsu who is a far cry from hashirama

 

[Meee]

Because its lame and as happened throughout this entire series, its repetitive as hell and it ruins the character for ME

He killed Konan. and for that he must rot in jail lol. But i do think he should take naruto's hand and stop this. Letting Madara take the front.

a criminal killed a criminal, big deal, nobody gives a shit about this kinda stuff irl lol

 

[majinbuu1307]

Naruto, sasuke, bee, even darui gai and kakashi would own him and having ones power doesn't mean you can use it to its highest capacity ask yamato, danzo,obito, madara and jetsu who is a far cry from hashirama

he's been eternally sealed and popped right back out. I think he can come out of any cursed seal that he has used in the past... and he's had a lottt of test subjects...

 

[majinbuu1307]

Because its lame and as happened throughout this entire series, its repetitive as hell and it ruins the character for ME



a criminal killed a criminal, big deal, nobody gives a shit about this kinda stuff irl lol

Konan was a good person at the time of her death.

 

[Fluffyman]

I agree with Obitos plan, thats why I want him to win.

Naruto is a naive kid, godly shinobi like Hashirama and Tobirama and many more Hokage (hell even the SO6P himself) failed to create peace yet this 16 year old foxboy is bragging about that he will pull it off haha. I smell either BS or BIGGEST PNJ ever.

Obito also spend 20 years hiding in the shadows, patiently plotting everything. Will of stone is needed to be able to wait 20 years all by yourself and yet I'm supposed to believe that Naruto can change his will in just a few chapters? **** that..




Nah, I want Obito to win or atleast stay with his plan until the very end.

 

[GreyWizard93]

I agree.

it just seems some people are missing the point and are bent on fights and death all the time.

 

[Naijakid]

Your avatar creeps me out

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Orochimaru still fits that. He will never be accepted back, and is only there because something suits his goals most likely.

Orochimaru doesn't fit that description.. he doesn't want to see the world burn, he wants to unravel the secrets of reality, shinobi etc. and he doesn't care if he needs to sacrifice someone for that.

People on narutobase are reading the wrong manga, they want DBZ-type villains who mindlessly are villain without reason.. and want to become the one and only person in the universe without reason.

In real life most primary psychopaths manipulate the masses to do the evil for them.. madara comes closest to that, but he is not a primary psychopath, he's like obito a secondary psychopath.. a primary psychopath is born with a physical deviation in his brain.. while a secondary psychopath has become that through trauma etc.