[Discussion] Eneru Top 10?

[Punk Hazard]

Also, you guys underestimate Enel's intelligence. He outwitted ROBIN of all people and built the Arc Maxim.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Enel surely has one of the strongest devil fruits. His main weaknesses are not having Arnament Haki, and low endurance by OP standards. His speed is good but physically his reflexes aren't that good.
If he lost to skypiea Luffy in a fist fight, although he wasn't just fodderized but still he lost. Then strong haki users should be easily able to defeat him.
He is strong, sure, but not top 10. Not even top 20.



But it's upto Akainu wether he'll use his DF or not. What if he just gave him a Haki punch? Or one of haki+magma?

What's stopping Enel from planting an El Thor to his face right before the attack hits?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He is soo much faster than anyone else as well, think about ALL his abilities and NOT ONE person aside from luffy known is immune to lightning, 100million volt would more than likely burn anyone unless they stop it.

Busoshoku Haki seems to provide a resistance to temperature. We can see this evident when Sanji kicks Doflamingo (unaffected) with Diable Jambe.

Kizaru is faster. And therefore so is Rayleigh and therefore presumably many other people.

Enel could literally just float above a town and have several El Thors rain down. The lightning would cause massive explosions and spread fires that could wipe out an entire town. Enel can destroy cities by himself and islands with Arc Maxim.

Exactly. Destructive capacity in a nutshell. It doesn't change the fact he thinks he is immortal and therefore reckless without any concept of weakness and "what if" in his head. Anyone with Busoshoku Haki would One Shot him if he isn't prepared.

Smoker wouldn't win in a fight either, Enel is too fast.

Smoker is faster than Luffy. Luffy kept up with Enel.

Lightning is naturally superior to fire and since Smoker's DF stalemated with Ace's, Enel's lightning should be superior to Smoke, just like Magma was superior to Fire.

Smoke is unaffected by currents, Lightning would logically enhance Smoke as it resides in the air after things burn; when Lightning strikes the air around the struck point reaches many thousands of degrees. So logically Smoke would be enhanced and superheated.

Enel surely has one of the strongest devil fruits. His main weaknesses are not having Arnament Haki, and low endurance by OP standards. His speed is good but physically his reflexes aren't that good.
If he lost to skypiea Luffy in a fist fight, although he wasn't just fodderized but still he lost. Then strong haki users should be easily able to defeat him.
He is strong, sure, but not top 10. Not even top 20.

Even though he lost to Luffy due to Luffy's immunity ; anybody that loses to Pre TS Luffy regardless is not top 30 worthy.

But it's upto Akainu wether he'll use his DF or not. What if he just gave him a Haki punch? Or one of haki+magma?

I find it funny how people don't consider "choice".

There's no point in saying EOS Croc because he doesn't exist and EOS Enel could be stronger. Current is all that matters.

We don't know what either would be like EOS.

 

[Hexuze]

There's no point in saying EOS Croc because he doesn't exist and EOS Enel could be stronger. Current is all that matters.

Hey it's just speculation.

 

[jiraiya lives]

Also just because it was stated by Oda that Enel would of had a 500 Million bounty, it doesn't mean that he could of fought with people around that bounty range cause bounty doesn't equal power in most cases. It's the threat level that he would of posed to the WG...and I can see why his bounty would be so high

If Enel was down on earth he could easily fly over any WG facility and destroy/Damage it instantly with his lightning.

 

[Love Cook]

Enel would be outclassed by ANY vice-admiral and higher, there are tons of pirates who are stronger then him.

Enel got his ass kicked by Luffy in gear 1 and even Wiper technically 'killed' Enel by beating him with Kairoseki. Enel's combat skills are highly overestimated and he is not as fast as some claim. For someone with lightning speed and the 'best' (i disagree but whatever) mantra in the story he got hit an awful lot during that arc.

His lack in hand to hand combat and other fighting skills he makes up with the destructive power of his fruit, however this is also the only trick he knows, he relies solely on his devil fruit and we know what happens when you do that as a logia.

[video=youtube;B8EBy8rJNGI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8EBy8rJNGI[/video]

Second, bounties aren't based on strength. The fact that he would have such a 'theoretical' high bounty was because he has been terrorizing the people of skypiea all these years.

Enel's fruit has a lot of potential but the character Enel as we knew him pre-timeskip was fodder with a gift. If Enel was so strong why didn't he stab/burn/drown/sliced/diced/kicked/ Luffy to death ?

Enel might not even be in the top 50, let's see:

Monster trio (3) yonkou and strong crew (15) all vice-admirals (people like smoker, vergo, Momonga, Garp)(15), Strong new world pirates up till now (chinjao, Bartolomeo, Cavendish etc.)(5) Other supernova's (9), Marine top (admirals and previous admirals) (7) Shichibukai (7)

I reckon that i left out a lot but this is more than enough to prove a point, I hold all these people higher than Enel. Maybe some of them might be a bad matchup but it's clear that Enel is no where near top 10.

And not even top 50 if you look at the 61 people i named up here.

 

[Kαmi]

He's heavily underrated. The only reason why he's not top 10 is because he doesn't have armament Haki IMO. I think people forget how tough a target Enel really is, the man practically has the speed of lightning and his Haki of perception surpasses anyone else we've seen. I think Enel gets underrated because of how early in the series he was and because he ended fighting his only weakness which made him not seem as strong.

 

[kmrasengan]

Nope he ain't top 10.

Yonko's, admirlas, vice admirals, yonko's commanders, Mihawk, Dofla, Kuma, and some others can beat him.

 

[LitzSabr]

What's stopping Enel from planting an El Thor to his face right before the attack hits?

Akainu himself. Enel won't be able to react to his speed. He had trouble reacting to Luffy's punches even with his CoO. Plus Akainu can dodge El Thor if Pagaya evaded it.
It'll be a one hit K.O from Akainu unlike Luffy who struggled to some extent.

 

[Ahmed1993]

When he makes a come back , he'll definitely be top 10 U_U

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

I think pple tend to overlook Enel's most powerful aspect and thats his offense, i dont quite know what wld happen if someone defended agnaist lightning with haki but i think to succesfully escape the effects of lightning one wld need to be haki beast(to the tenth power), so i think pple withought well ranged attacks/fighting styles wld find it a most troubling task to fight Enel. His defence is questionable-(true) but with his CoO he is very hard to tag and if u do tag him there is logia intangibility which in Enel's case also is a bit of an attack on its own coz if u connect with yo body(matial artist) or conductive weapon(most swords and many other weapons) u cld just get get the feeling a toaster has when there is a power surge and get fried yoself. Now to opponents r different, thats true and im sure top top tier lvl fighters e.g WB cld tank bolts of lightning but i think it becomes a game of how much stamina(n will) one has coz the current that will flow in yo body at those lvls of volts will be sent through out yo body and this means every cell in yo body goes thru some very heavy stress and this wears down the body and stamina grtly, but as i said prvyusly with grt CoA the effects cld b brought down a bit(not fact just a theory of mine). vs skillfull CoA users i do admit his chances in my eyes r very low coz honestly tanking of attacks needs a Vin Diesel NO² lvl boost, and to that haki user add a logia df and Enel's chances of victory dwindle and this is also the same with some of those other paramacia and extra special zoans. To me Enel might not be able to defeat an admiral but to defeat him u need some grt lvl of power and skill coz he will push u to lvls similar to an admiral( especially so if u have no counter to his attack) so Enel is best explained as a mystry card.

 

[Olorin]

Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk, Garp, Akainu, Big Mam, Kaido, Blackbeard, Aokiji, Kizaru, Fujitora, Sengoku, Marco, Ben Backman, Doflamingo ... I could go on but I already have mote than 10, so no, he is not in the top 10 not like he was on Skypea anyway

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk, Garp, Akainu, Big Mam, Kaido, Blackbeard, Aokiji, Kizaru, Fujitora, Sengoku, Marco, Ben Backman, Doflamingo ... I could go on but I already have mote than 10, so no, he is not in the top 10 not like he was on Skypea anyway

I can name close to 40 more...

 

[Icelerate]

Well Enel's fire power is on the same level as an admiral but his fighting skill is roughly low Shicibukai level.

 

[LitzSabr]

I can name close to 40 more...

Damn, despite having a powerful logia DF, he is still weak. Poor guy

 

[Olorin]

his fighting skill is roughly low Shicibukai level.

his fighting skill is well below pre-gears Luffy

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Well Enel's fire power is on the same level as an admiral but his fighting skill is roughly low Shicibukai level.

His fighting skill is nowhere near that level.

Damn, despite having a powerful logia DF, he is still weak. Poor guy

He is no way weak. Definitely one of the stronger characters. However barely making top 40-50

his fighting skill is well below pre-gears Luffy

Well his fighting Skill is slightly superior to that. However Luffys immunity gave him an advantage. Enel was dancing around everything and anything anybody threw at him up until Luffy kicked him in the crotch.

 

[LitzSabr]

He is no way weak. Definitely one of the stronger characters. However barely making top 40-50

I mean, he is not where he should have been(weak compred to that). He has a top notch DF.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I mean, he is not where he should have been(weak compred to that). He has a top notch DF.

I wish his DF wasn't wasted on a second rate villain. However if he makes a return (I think he will) then we will get a true justification of his strength.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

I wish his DF wasn't wasted on a second rate villain. However if he makes a return (I think he will) then we will get a true justification of his strength.

For sure man Lord Enel will show again and then he will defnetly b a spectacle for sure.