FTG seal in connection with chakra transfer: A very deadly technique

[Touken]

The formula allows them to instantly move from one distance to another. I don't know what's so hard to grasp about this. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MANGA HAS STATED YOU NEED SEALS TO MOVE FROM ONE DISTANCE TO ANOTHER. Although, I see what you're getting at here and it seems as if I haven't made my point; Kushina taught Minato Uzumaki seals and that allowed Minato to create his own seal due to Kushina passing on her knowledge. Minato's Hiraishin seal isn't an Uzumaki seal, it's his own.

As for the 2nd part, I'll repeat again:

In that 2nd scan too many implications can be made; it could mean Minato has now marked Naruto off panel, or Tobirama had thought Minato marked Naruto. If Minato had said 'I don't have a seal on him', it wouldn't explain why Minato did nothing to save his own son by either using a Rasengan to destroy the branches or by summoning Gamabunta for extra firepower. Minato saying 'I don't have any chakra left' shows that he couldn't have done anything to save his own son, which explains why only Tobirama tried saving him.

 

[ajpn920]

The formula allows them to instantly move from one distance to another. I don't know what's so hard to grasp about this. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MANGA HAS STATED YOU NEED SEALS TO MOVE FROM ONE DISTANCE TO ANOTHER. Although, I see what you're getting at here and it seems as if I haven't made my point; Kushina taught Minato Uzumaki seals and that allowed Minato to create his own seal due to Kushina passing on her knowledge. Minato's Hiraishin seal isn't an Uzumaki seal, it's his own.

As for the 2nd part, I'll repeat again:

Are you implying that Kushina can't copy Minato's seal?

 

[Touken]

Are you implying that Kushina can't copy Minato's seal?

No? All I said was Minato's Hiraishin seal is his own creation since there are no Uzumaki seals based on FTG.

The Uzumaki (except for Kushina) have probably never even heard of FTG.

Kushina can probably copy Minato's Hiraishin seal.

 

[ajpn920]

No? All I said was Minato's Hiraishin seal is his own creation since there are no Uzumaki seals based on FTG.

The Uzumaki (except for Kushina) have probably never even heard of FTG.

Kushina can probably copy Minato's Hiraishin seal.

Kushina can probably copy Minato's Hiraishin seal

If this is the case then why did Minato incorporate the marking into kushina's seal? It makes no sense that he will incorporate the marking into kushina's seal so he can save her when all kushina should do is to copy the seal so he can enter a void (according to you).

It clearly shows that FTG does not revolve in the marking alone because the 3 special guards of Minato was able to mark that seal into tsunade. If the guards like genma can copy that seal then it's obvious that a caliber of kushina can do it too. Why the hell that she can't use that same seal? She let Minato incorporate it into her seal so he can save her. It makes no sense.

The scan below should end our argument that the

the formula allows them to enter a dimensional void at will

(according to you)

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If you can use logic pretty well then you would agree with me. The marking is just part of FTG. There are still unknown components of FTG that we have to discover. Saying that the formula allows them to enter a dimensional void at will is purely nonsense because if this is the case then kushina would have no problem copying Minato's seal and use FTG at will.

 

[Touken]

Woooowwww, your entire argument is based on Kushina being able to copy Minato's seal or not. Why the balls would Kushina take her time to copy Minato's intricate seal when he himself could place the seal? It's not some simple seal an Uzumaki can copy whenever he/she wants. You're acting as if FTG is some B-rank tech.

You didn't see a dimensional void when Minato used S/T barrier?

 

[ajpn920]

Woooowwww, your entire argument is based on Kushina being able to copy Minato's seal or not. Why the balls would Kushina take her time to copy Minato's intricate seal when he himself could place the seal? It's not some simple seal an Uzumaki can copy whenever he/she wants. You're acting as if FTG is some B-rank tech.

You didn't see a dimensional void when Minato used S/T barrier?

I know about it but what you said is not true. The marking/seal is part of FTG. Using FTG (a space time tech) opens a void for the user. The seal does not give that ability but FTG itself. As I always said, the seal is just part of FTG.

You said that the formula allows them to enter a dimensional void at will so if we follow that, knowing the seal enables someone to enter a dimensional void at will. I used Kushina as an example because we all know how good she is at seals so it's safe to say that she can copy Minato's seal. If just knowing the seal makes her enter a dimensional void at will then there's no problem for her using the FTG but we all know that's not the case because Minato incorporated the mark into Kushina's seal so he can aid her anytime.

Minato's special guards knows the seal and FTG. If they can then why can't Kushina if FTG is all about seals? Are you trying to say that Minato's special guards are better at seals than Kushina? It's pretty clear that FTG is not about seals. The seal is just part of FTG.

 

[Tera Path]

Its way too OP, especially with Tobirama.

If Tobirama is actually really good in suiton, which the hype says he is.
Than he can just create allot of water, just like what he did in the fight vs Hiruzen.
Only, on a bigger scale, and he could just teleport around in the water.

 

[Touken]

You said that the formula allows them to enter a dimensional void at will so if we follow that, knowing the seal enables someone to enter a dimensional void at will

Yeah, that's exactly my point but creating or copying the seal takes extreme skill.

we all know that's not the case because Minato incorporated the mark into Kushina's seal so he can aid her anytime.

Because it's Minato's goddamn trademark. And also the fact that Kushina doesn't know Minato's seal. As I said before, it's not an Uzumaki seal; Minato created the seal/formula.

 

[Xāvî1]

Nice read....

 

[~Uzumaki~]

In that 2nd scan too many implications can be made; it could mean Minato has now marked Naruto off panel, or Tobirama had thought Minato marked Naruto. If Minato had said 'I don't have a seal on him', it wouldn't explain why Minato did nothing to save his own son by either using a Rasengan to destroy the branches or by summoning Gamabunta for extra firepower. Minato saying 'I don't have any chakra left' shows that he couldn't have done anything to save his own son, which explains why only Tobirama tried saving him. I'm not sure how you guys are disagreeing with manga facts (needing a seal for Hiraishin) through baseless implications.

Minato/Tobirama teleport to FTG seals not because of the seals containing their respective chakra, but because of the formula allows them to enter a dimensional void at will. God, I feel like I'm repeating myself here.

Minato was in KM when he said I have no chakra. This must mean he had chakra. You can't be in KM and out of chakra. What he was essentially saying was that he had no chakra IN NARUTO to use as a beacon to teleport, proving that he could have gone to Naruto if he did have chakra in Naruto. He basically insinuated that he could teleport to Naruto if Naruto still had some of his chakra...not a marking/seal but mere chakra. U_U

OT: The FTG seal never fades. That's why it is used.

 

[ajpn920]

Minato was in KM when he said I have no chakra. This must mean he had chakra. You can't be in KM and out of chakra. What he was essentially saying was that he had no chakra IN NARUTO to use as a beacon to teleport, proving that he could have gone to Naruto if he did have chakra in Naruto. He basically insinuated that he could teleport to Naruto if Naruto still had some of his chakra...not a marking/seal but mere chakra. U_U

OT: The FTG seal never fades. That's why it is used.

True! This is why the seal is needed. A mere chakra transfer means that the chakra being transferred will run out. It was proven when the god tree sucked up naruto's chakra. Minato's chakra in naruto was also sucked. With seal, it never fades.

Nice read....

thanks

Yeah, that's exactly my point but creating or copying the seal takes extreme skill.

Because it's Minato's goddamn trademark. And also the fact that Kushina doesn't know Minato's seal. As I said before, it's not an Uzumaki seal; Minato created the seal/formula.

You did not get the point. If FTG is the seal then knowing the seal means you can use FTG. It's highly unlikely that Kushina can't copy Minato's seal when Minato's special guards knows about it. Now, why would Minato incorporate the mark if Kushina can copy it and use FTG. It does not makes sense. The reason why Minato incorporate the mark is because FTG is too complicated and Kushina can't use it even if she knows the seal. It will not work with seals alone.

Its way too OP, especially with Tobirama.

If Tobirama is actually really good in suiton, which the hype says he is.
Than he can just create allot of water, just like what he did in the fight vs Hiruzen.
Only, on a bigger scale, and he could just teleport around in the water.

true. but when the water evaporates or is being countered by fire then of course the chakra disappears. This is why the seal is needed because it never fades. Same goes for Minato if he has wind element..

what if these guys have earth element? nahhh..they will be too OP if they uses FTG this way...

I think this scan proves that Minato and Tobirama can teleport to the target with chakra alone. Viz scan provided by Ababeel

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Tobirama: I can't move everyone simultaneously like you but i'll still help protect them with my teleportation jutsu

Using Minato as a link, Tobirama can teleport to where his chakra is