[Theory] The origins of chakra in (the creation of) the shinobi world. (and rikkudou lineage)

[SixPathsOfTobi]

That's stupid.
Senju = great life force + extreme physical power
Uchiha = seals + ocular(eye) power
Both are made to offset the other.
Uzumake = seals + great life force.

this made me think..

The question is how did shinobi receive chakra.. (cause according to madara all chakra belongs to shinjuu so it wasn't there, unused in everyone, from the start)
If it would go through banging and reproducing everything should come from the two sons of rikkudou.. that's kind of rediculous..

Also how they mention distant relatives of rikkudou, if chakra would've spread through banging and reproducing every shinobi would be a distant relative.

But what this post made me think about is that the Uchiha and Senju both have traits from the god tree..

The Uchiha have their eyes that resemble shinjuu's flower/eye

The Senju have like you call it extreme physical power with Hashirama and his mokuton, which should be obvious i think to be connected to shinjuu.

They say rikkudou created the (shinobi) world.. i think he spread chakra not by his descendants reproducing, but with some sort of jutsu or something..
Probably something similar like how naruto spread the kyuubi chakra to everyone.

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Younger son became successor of rikkudou which means that he became king of the otsotsuki tribe.

Older son didn't like that so he left the tribe.. , i think maybe with some defectors that followed him which became the hagoromo clan, who we know were allies of the uchiha.

The older sons descendants became the uchiha

The younger sons descendants became the senju

The otsotsuki tribe became the uzumaki, or otsotsuki = uzumaki

And because the senju ancestor was their king they stayed close, though the senju joined in the fights while i think the uzumaki stayed true to their believes and didn't join the fighting, at most they protected themselves if attacked.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

SHINJU fruit + Kaguya = Rikudo

Rikudo = uchiha and senju,

Uchiha = Hyuga and Uchiha

Senju = uzumaki's and remaining senju

That's what I believe :U

 

[The Sach]

No manga evidence to support it...U_U

 

[tysoncs]

I see u have just summarized sir derp obito's theory and transcendence's theory too!
Apart from that u have predicted much...ur hypothesis is less!

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

No manga evidence to support it...U_U

To support what?
And don't forget it's marked a theory..

It's a hypothesis based on manga facts.

 

[The Sach]

To support what?
And don't forget it's marked a theory..

It's a hypothesis based on manga facts.

You may call it hypothesis, but it isn't theory, theory requires manga support, I want manga support for this statement->

Older son didn't like that so he left the tribe.. , i think maybe with some defectors that followed him which became the hagoromo clan, who we know were allies of the uchiha.

How can you say that Hogoromo were allies of Uchiha clan??
And from what you said that Older son gave arise to Hogoromo clan??O_O
Your hypothesis will become theory if you remove that part, because rest looks OK for me..

 

[Draxus]

Okay completely pointless double thread. Guess I'll just quote myself

Actually I think the Ototsuki clan continued on as the ruling class. Why would the rulers of the land give it all up and become ninja?

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[SixPathsOfTobi]

You may call it hypothesis, but it isn't theory, theory requires manga support, I want manga support for this statement->

How can you say that Hogoromo were allies of Uchiha clan??
And from what you said that Older son gave arise to Hogoromo clan??O_O
Your hypothesis will become theory if you remove that part, because rest looks OK for me..

First i said "i think maybe"..

But as far as that the hagoromo clan and uchiha were allies, i just had that in my head.. i looked in the manga but onlyt found that part where madara saw that dead hagoromo guy and immediately needed to go..
Narutopedia does say however that they were allies but i don't know where they get that from.
But that wasn't really part of the theory that was just a thought that's why i said i think maybe.

 

[The Sach]

First i said "i think maybe"..

But as far as that the hagoromo clan and uchiha were allies, i just had that in my head.. i looked in the manga but onlyt found that part where madara saw that dead hagoromo guy and immediately needed to go..
Narutopedia does say however that they were allies but i don't know where they get that from.
But that wasn't really part of the theory that was just a thought that's why i said i think maybe.

Well OK, then...

 

[rollin]

how could the ootsutsuki turn into the uzumaki clan?
kaguya and hagoromo were the only ootsutsuki tribe members with chakra and uzumaki's have more in common with the younger son which is something that had to be inherited from hagoromo himself

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

how could the ootsutsuki turn into the uzumaki clan?
kaguya and hagoromo were the only ootsutsuki tribe members with chakra and uzumaki's have more in common with the younger son which is something that had to be inherited from hagoromo himself

I was gonna say the same things. plus some more: