PURE SWORDFIGHTING SKILL: Hebi Sasuke vs. Zabuza

[KidGamer65]

Yeah and Zabuza is greater in that area... You just said yourself Kenjutsu = Tai and CQC in general, and Zabuza is superior to Sasuke in that area. He was a Legendary Swordsmen, this isn't debatable. The DB says Zabuza is superior at Tai than HEBI Sasuke. Zabuza has a 4.5/5, Sasuke has a 3.5/5

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=/= means that they aren't the same. You are thinking of the = sign. Taijutsu is not the same as Kenjutsu, obviously. I shouldn't have to explain something as basic as that.

@bold: That's nice and all, but I'm still waiting for the feats that prove that he is so much better that it isn't even debatable.

-Sasuke has better speed feats.

-He has better reflexes.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Coming to think of it, what are Zabuza's feats with a sword?

 

[Curse Mark]

Coming to think of it, what are Zabuza's feats with a sword?

We haven't seen him kill a single person with it.
BUT HE WAS LEGENDARY
#hyperules

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Coming to think of it, what are Zabuza's feats with a sword?

Killing multiple Shinobi with just 1 slash. Capable of swinging his huge sword around with ease. He hasn't had all the screen time Sasuke has so it's hard to find more feats.

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=/= means that they aren't the same. You are thinking of the = sign. Taijutsu is not the same as Kenjutsu, obviously. I shouldn't have to explain something as basic as that.

@bold: That's nice and all, but I'm still waiting for the feats that prove that he is so much better that it isn't even debatable.

-Sasuke has better speed feats.

-He has better reflexes.

Yeah but of course Taijutsu and Kenjutsu correspond. If Zabuza's Taijutsu is above Hebi Sasuke's, why would it not make sense if his Kenjutsu is? I mean....Zabuza is a master at Kenjutsu which is why he was a Legendary Swordsmen....

Sasuke may have better speed feats, but Zabuza has better strength feats. He swings his way larger sword than Sasuke's like a twig. Zabuza's Kenjutsu>Sasuke's. Idk why it is so hard to believe this when even his Taijutsu is significantly greater.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

We haven't seen him kill a single person with it.
BUT HE WAS LEGENDARY
#hyperules

Bull.f*cking.sh*t

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[KidGamer65]

Killing multiple Shinobi with just 1 slash. Capable of swinging his huge sword around with ease. He hasn't had all the screen time Sasuke has so it's hard to find more feats.




Yeah but of course Taijutsu and Kenjutsu correspond. If Zabuza's Taijutsu is above Hebi Sasuke's, why would it not make sense if his Kenjutsu is? I mean....Zabuza is a master at Kenjutsu which is why he was a Legendary Swordsmen....

Sasuke may have better speed feats, but Zabuza has better strength feats. He swings his way larger sword than Sasuke's like a twig. Zabuza's Kenjutsu>Sasuke's. Idk why it is so hard to believe this when even his Taijutsu is significantly greater.

Itachi's Taijutsu is above Sasuke's, I guess his Kenjutsu is above his despite having very very limited feats in the area. Kenjutsu is NOT Taijutsu, its as simple as that. Being better in one doesn't make you better in the other.

Zabuza's strength doesn't really matter here when Kakashi was able to clash with his sword using a Kunai and Sasuke was able to clash against Kakashi. B's physical strength didn't completely overwhelm Sasuke when he was using Zabuza's sword to combat him, and don't say that its because it wasn't his own sword and it was Zabuza's, cause that has no effect on strength. Telling me over and over that he was one of the legendary swordsman doesn't mean he'll beat Sasuke in a Kenjutsu fight when you don't have the feats to back it up.

That's similar to me saying the samurai should have raped Sasuke in Kenjutsu because they specialize in Kenjutsu, that's the only fighting style they know, but Sasuke was raping them left and right.

 

[Curse Mark]

I wasn't talking about Edo Zabuza since this isn't edo zabuza in this match.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Itachi's Taijutsu is above Sasuke's, I guess his Kenjutsu is above his despite having very very limited feats in the area. Kenjutsu is NOT Taijutsu, its as simple as that. Being better in one doesn't make you better in the other.

Zabuza's strength doesn't really matter here when Kakashi was able to clash with his sword using a Kunai and Sasuke was able to clash against Kakashi. B's physical strength didn't completely overwhelm Sasuke when he was using Zabuza's sword to combat him, and don't say that its because it wasn't his own sword and it was Zabuza's, cause that has no effect on strength. Telling me over and over that he was one of the legendary swordsman doesn't mean he'll beat Sasuke in a Kenjutsu fight when you don't have the feats to back it up.

That's similar to me saying the samurai should have raped Sasuke in Kenjutsu because they specialize in Kenjutsu, that's the only fighting style they know, but Sasuke was raping them left and right.

So did u just agree with me? Also, I mean come one bro if Zabuza is a league above in Taijutsu, it does make sense how he would be better in Kenjutsu because the fighting styles are similar. Sasuke is a skilled Kenjutsu user, I just think Zabuza is better, not by a huge gab tho.

I wasn't talking about Edo Zabuza since this isn't edo zabuza in this match.

The ignorance of some on this site....

Does it matter if he killed them when he was edo? His power, jutsu, and skill is the same. The only difference is he has unlimited chakra, however, Silent Killing and swinging his sword requires 0 chakra

 

[KidGamer65]

So did u just agree with me? Also, I mean come one bro if Zabuza is a league above in Taijutsu, it does make sense how he would be better in Kenjutsu because the fighting styles are similar. Sasuke is a skilled Kenjutsu user, I just think Zabuza is better, not by a huge gab tho.

You couldn't tell the obvious sarcasm in that statement? The rest of my post clearly says that I disagree.

Fighting with a sword is not the same as fighting with your bare hands no matter how much you try to make it seem that way.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Killing multiple Shinobi with just 1 slash. Capable of swinging his huge sword around with ease. He hasn't had all the screen time Sasuke has so it's hard to find more feats.

That's pretty weak bro. This feat by Sasuke pretty much ends the debate... [

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]. Not to mention the above with his encounter with Bee, among other things.

 

[Byakusharinnegan]

That's pretty weak bro. This feat by Sasuke pretty much ends the debate... [

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I was waiting for someone to point this out.

If I'm correct, Sasuke killed exactly 100 shinobi of unknown rank, assumed to be a mix on Chuunin and Jounin.

As a child not even in the academy yet, Zabuza killed over a hundred Genin by himself, with only his blade.

 

[Optimistic]

killing a bunch of genin >>>>>> killing 100 chunin and jonin fodders


Logics logic is logical.I see no feats from zabuza all i see is hype at least i can actually bring manga scans showcasing sasuke's kenjutsu feats.To mak this a fair fiight u had to restrict his kekkei genkai and elemental jutsu.Lol

 

[paratise]

killing a bunch of genin >>>>>> killing 100 chunin and jonin fodders


Logics logic is logical.I see no feats from zabuza all i see is hype at least i can actually bring manga scans showcasing sasuke's kenjutsu feats.

Nice avy you got there Timmy.
OT: I say Sasuke wins.

 

[Optimistic]

Nice avy you got there Timmy.
OT: I say Sasuke wins.

damn it stop stealing my avy.

 

[Byakusharinnegan]

killing a bunch of genin >>>>>> killing 100 chunin and jonin fodders


Logics logic is logical.I see no feats from zabuza all i see is hype at least i can actually bring manga scans showcasing sasuke's kenjutsu feats.To mak this a fair fiight u had to restrict his kekkei genkai and elemental jutsu.Lol

Its not a fight, I wanted to see who's better with the sword.

 

[Takos]

killing a bunch of genin >>>>>> killing 100 chunin and jonin fodders


Logics logic is logical.I see no feats from zabuza all i see is hype at least i can actually bring manga scans showcasing sasuke's kenjutsu feats.To mak this a fair fiight u had to restrict his kekkei genkai and elemental jutsu.Lol

1. The bunch defeated by Sasuke is "assumed to be chunin and jonin" just because you guys assume them to be so. They might be genin for all we know.
2. Actually, yes, defeating 100 genin WHILE NOT EVEN HAVING ATTENDED ACADEMY YET is a better feat than defeating a bunch of random ninja when you're already a strong shinobi yourself.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I was waiting for someone to point this out.

If I'm correct, Sasuke killed exactly 100 shinobi of unknown rank, assumed to be a mix on Chuunin and Jounin.

As a child not even in the academy yet, Zabuza killed over a hundred Genin by himself, with only his blade.

No, it wasn't 100 shinobi Sasuke took out. It just says countless, and I don't know about you, but it sure looks like a lot more than 100 [

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]. Zabuza killed 100 of his classmates, but it was never specified that he used a sword, was it?

 

[Curse Mark]

Edo Zabuza clearly has a difference in feats from the past Zabuza that makes it not possible to use him as an argument in this debate.

 

[shelke]

Sasuke's Kenjutsu is miles ahead. Don't bring that Bee logic into question as Sasuke was still severely injured from his fight with Itachi. Juugo and his dialogue exchange confirm that. The guy was able to pin Kabuto's snake with his sword. And we all know how good Kabuto's reflexes and speed are. He effortlessly blocked Mifune

Feats -

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- DSM Kabuto.
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- Mifune.
- Defeated this many -

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- without spilling a single drop of blood -

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Not to mention the Samurais he fodderized. Hebi-Sasuke Zero Difference.

 

[Curse Mark]

Sasuke's Kenjutsu is miles ahead. Don't bring that Bee logic into question as Sasuke was still severely injured from his fight with Itachi. Juugo and his dialogue exchange confirm that. The guy was able to pin Kabuto's snake with his sword. And we all know how good Kabuto's reflexes and speed are. He effortlessly blocked Mifune

Feats -

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- DSM Kabuto.
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- Mifune.
- Defeated this many -

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- without spinning a single drop of blood -

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Not to mention the Samurais he fodderized. Hebi-Sasuke Zero Difference.

Cant help but agree