[Discussion] chapter 653 not a bad chapter at allllllllllllllllll

[The Necromancer]

Who said something like "accepting any apology"? Naruto stated clearly Obito should pay with a punishment.

:| really guys... this is way different with what happened with Nagato. Naruto didn't ask anything from Nagato.

They're exactly the same.

Naruto hates and wants to kill the person-
Naruto decides to let the person live-
That person speaks to naruto and tells him their sad story-
Naruto talks to them for 5 minutes-
That person decides Naruto makes sense and repents-

It's the same situation with different words. Only this time is spanned something like 20 chapters.

 

[Sir Blades]

So basically he is a Nagato 2.0. And will talked no jut sued, i hope he revives Neji.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

You realize Hitler and Obito had the same dream right? Rule under one nation/person in order to have the perfect world where no evil need happen again.

Would you accept Hitler's apology? Or more importantly, do you believe Hitler would ever in a million years offer an apology and go back on his actions?

Naruto's character is full of bullshit fairies and rainbow dreams that would never be remotely realistic were he not the protagonist of this manga.

hahahahhaha man, this is anime not a reallity and everyone knows that.....If kishi shows only fight and fight then what makes naruto anime superior to other animes?
kishi show us that every one not born with evilness its the events which makes him evil........But some persons are Evil by nature like madara ........So, wait for the madara's response

 

[The Necromancer]

hahahahhaha man, this is anime not a reallity and everyone knows that.....If kishi shows only fight and fight then what makes naruto anime superior to other animes?
kishi show us that every one not born with evilness its the events which makes him evil........But some persons are Evil by nature like madara ........So, wait for the madara's response

No. Madara, Nagato, Obito, even Orochimaru. They're all good and pursue it in an evil way. Every one of them. Now that's fine and dandy once or twice. But not when it's every villain in the entire series.

You know why Cell is one of my favorite villains of all time? Because his motivation is "I'm better than you, and i want to prove it." It doesn't matter how shitty of a motive it is, what matters is that a good villain is made with confidence. None of these villains have confidence in themselves or their plans.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Yes bro, you're right.
The haters are the one who thought Obito is/gonna be the big villain currently and are now not accepting the TnJ slap from Naruto. XD

Madara was the one who manipulated Obito. Then Obito was the one who manipulated Nagato.
Naruto TnJ Nagato and now he's TnJ'ing Obito.
These two guys were good from the start to consider that they gonna be TnJ'd in the end.

Orochimaru and Madara were on the evil side from the start. So they gonna remain villains till death.

this ^

Who said something like "accepting any apology"? Naruto stated clearly Obito should pay with a punishment.

:| really guys... this is way different with what happened with Nagato. Naruto didn't ask anything from Nagato.

this ^

 

[-ahhimane-]

So basically he is a Nagato 2.0. And will talked no jut sued, i hope he revives Neji.

That's not gonna happen this time.
Last time, Obito wasn't around Nagato to stop his actions

Madara is around to stop Obito. But rather than stopping him from doing that, he won't give Obito a chance to do that. Madara will revive himself in Obito. That's Obito's punishment :snick:

 

[ANiMUS]

It wasn't bad. It just wasn't that good.

 

[waTiem]

Honestly, this chapter just solidified my hatred for Naruto's character.

Anyone can punch their opponent into submission, but who can remove hate from the world? How can the pivotal character behave any other way?

 

[GenKiDama]

All we need now is to hear the Toy Story song, 'You got a friend in me' and Disney level has been achieved.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

That's not gonna happen this time.
Last time, Obito wasn't around Nagato to stop his actions

Madara is around to stop Obito. But rather than stopping him from doing that, he won't give Obito a chance to do that. Madara will revive himself in Obito. That's Obito's punishment :snick:

yeah same thoughts

 

[Raekwon26]

Anyone can punch their opponent into submission, but who can remove hate from the world? How can the pivotal character behave any other way?

No one.
That's why people find his character to be a joke.

 

[Olorin]

I only read the *********** translation, I have been a fan of Naruto for 7 years, it's my 3rd fav manga, I usually love dialogue (I even prefer it often to action), I have been up here for 3 years discussing what I like ... but sorry this chapter for me was just pure rubbish, Naruto since 644 has been bad imo and this one was the worst, Naruto has had a few very rough patches (Kabuto flshbk and KinGin filler) but that doesn't mean the manga is bad ... nevertheless I just can't say this chapter was decent because imo it sucked

 

[scorezor]

those who said it was not a good chapter, they are actually very hasty persons....
ITS not fair to say anything bad about manga or kishimoto so early ........

CHAPTER 653 really very awesome but mangapanda translation really suck if you read *********** translation you will just realize it is not a bad chapter at all........


Obito was not a villian from the start and it will good to see obito to join naruto's side........
The main villians from the start were:

MADARA
OROCHIMARU

Obito was only a good villian when he hided his true personallity under mask but when the mask gone he started to change from that moment ........

We dont know what kishi will show us in nxt mangas So, stop complaining about manga...........

people always *****ing lol... why don't you guys make your own translations for a change?

 

[6PathsofKami]

This chapter was actually more interesting than the past 5/6 chapters I was beggining to lose interest untill this chapter.

 

[blazekev90]

Whether ot was good or not in a matter of opinion, but it was indeed repetitive. That's why it ssucks.

But yes, not matter the translation we see he was never a villain

 

[davidou]

Agreed. People judge each chapter individually, instead of looking at the big picture. This chapter was awesome, and needed.

Lol , you judged the chapter individually.Naruto is and will be awesome , forever.Thanks Kishimoto.

Although , it's not the kind of chapters ( moral/TNJ ) that made me love Naruto , suspens , intrigue , revelation ...
I remember some chapters where I was turning the page like I was opening a gift.

This chapter prove us how invincible is Naruto , he understands guys hearts in a wink.
In 0.1seconds he saw all Obito's past and found the only phrase that could TNJ Obito:
"Don't act strong and hide , I'm watching you".

 

[Honord Sage]

Look at Naruto calm, cool and collected, not the loud mouth impatient kid of yesterday, but A Man whose words carry weight,power and wisdom. Big difference between Naruto at 12 years of age and now at 17 don't you think?

 

[Gdamon]

It was a good chapter, literally everyone knew it'd be a TNJ chapter, yet they still complain, I don't understand people

this exactly...

 

[Uchiha Marshmallow]

You realize Hitler and Obito had the same dream right? Rule under one nation/person in order to have the perfect world where no evil need happen again.

Would you accept Hitler's apology? Or more importantly, do you believe Hitler would ever in a million years offer an apology and go back on his actions?

Naruto's character is full of bullshit fairies and rainbow dreams that would never be remotely realistic were he not the protagonist of this manga.

Amen to this..

 

[Dragon1]

MADARA
OROCHIMARU

What makes you think Madara and Orochimaru are good villains? Since he was revived Madara has done absolutely nothing (only talk)... Hell, Madara has done absolutely NOTHING in the whole Naruto series except revive Obito. Obito single-handedly realized the EMP. And with all the power Madara has it's even more lame considering he has Hashirama's abilities, EMS, Rinnegan and is practically immortal. How lame is that?

And Orochimaru? Can you really call him a villain after these chapters? Reviving the Hokage's, abandoning all his plans and basically being Sasuke's dog? He practically said it himself.