3T Madara versus the Sannin

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@End of Days. And you are still trying to use the Sannin's Summonings here despite the fact that Madara's Genjutsu would make them his pets? Ridiculous.
 

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Pretty sure the Sharingan can only control Kurama.
 

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@End of Days. And you are still trying to use the Sannin's Summonings here despite the fact that Madara's Genjutsu would make them his pets? Ridiculous.

Katsuyu has no eyes, therefore Madara can't use genjiutsu on her. Not to mention Tsunade can place mini Katsuyus on Jiraiya's and Orochimaru's summons who would cancel Madara's genjutsu.
 

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Katsuyu has no eyes, therefore Madara can't use genjiutsu on her. Not to mention Tsunade can place mini Katsuyus on Jiraiya's and Orochimaru's summons who would cancel Madara's genjutsu.

Katsuyu has no eyes? Since when? Sorry to disappoint you, but slugs do have eyes.

Slugs do have eyes which are usually at the tips of their short stalks. Not all slugs will have eyes on the same spot though all of them do have eyes unless they were hatched with birth defects.
 

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Sannins take this mid diff...! God they are underrated....!
 

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Katsuyu has no eyes? Since when? Sorry to disappoint you, but slugs do have eyes.

Lmao, from where you got that BS? The slugs have eyespots , but they can't SEE with them, they can only SENSE the LIGHT.
 

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Lmao, from where you got that BS? The slugs have eyespots , but they can't SEE with them, they can only SENSE the LIGHT.

Looks like I'll have to give you multiple links.

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Slugs do have eyes which are usually at the tips of their short stalks. Not all slugs will have eyes on the same spot though all of them do have eyes unless they were hatched with birth defects.

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Land slugs are well developed for their size. They have eyes, the senses of touch and smell, and an astonishing 27,000 teeth in their mouths.

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Slugs do have eyes. The eyes are located on the tip of their antenna. If you've watched Spongebob Squarepants, you'll see that Gary has eyes on his antenna.

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They have two simple eyes at the end of the back stalks.

Satisfied?


EDIT: However, the slugs can't see clearly so your point may still be true. Not that it matters since a simple Katon from Madara would kill Katsuyu.
 
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Looks like I'll have to give you multiple links.

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Satisfied?

No, not really mainly because none of those 'articles' provide scientific evidence and none of them explain how is a slug's eye is working. They only stated the slugs have eyes.

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"The upper pair of tentacles on the head of the edible snail Helix pomatia have eyes, but the main sensory organs are sensory neurons for olfaction in the epithelium of the tentacles.

In terrestrial pulmonate gastropods, eye spots are present at the tips of the tentacles in the Stylommatophora or at the base of the tentacles in the Basommatophora. These eye spots range from simple ocelli that cannot project an image (simply distinguishing light and dark), to more complex pit and even lens eyes. Vision is not the most important requirement in terrestrial gastropods, because they are mainly nocturnal animals. "


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References:

^ Jump up to: a b c d Chase R.: Sensory Organs and the Nervous System. in Barker G. M. (ed.): The biology of terrestrial molluscs. CABI Publishing, Oxon, UK, 2001, ISBN 0-85199-318-4. 1-146, cited pages: 179-211.
Jump up ^ Michael D. Miller 1998. Navanax inermis. The Slug Site, accessed 23 March 2009
Jump up ^ Kelly, P.M. and J.S. Cory. 1987. Operculum closing as a defense against predatory leeches in four British freshwater prosobranch snails. Hydrobiologia 144(2):121-124.
Jump up ^ Dattagupta S., Martin J., Liao S., Carney R. S. & Fisher C. R.(2007). "Deep-sea hydrocarbon seep gastropod Bathynerita naticoidea responds to cues from the habitat-providing mussel Bathymodiolus childressi". Marine Ecology 28(1): 193-198. doi:10.1111/j.1439-0485.2006.00130.x
Jump up ^ Davis E. C. (2004). "Odour tracking to a food source by the gastropod Meridolum gulosum (Gould, 1864) from New South Wales, Australia (Camaenidae: Eupulmonata: Mollusca)". Molluscan Research 24(3): 187-191. doi:10.1071/MR04008. PDF.
Jump up ^ Götting, Klaus-Jürgen (1994). "Schnecken". In Becker, U., Ganter, S., Just, C. & Sauermost, R. Lexikon der Biologie. Heidelberg: Spektrum Akademischer Verlag. ISBN 3-86025-156-2.
Jump up ^ Bever M. M. & Borgens R. B. 2005. Eye regeneration in the mystery snail. Journal of Experimental Zoology, Volume 245, Issue 1, Pages 33 - 42. abstract
Jump up ^ Hughes H. P. I. 1976. Structure and regeneration of the eyes of strombid gastropods . Cell and Tissue Research. Volume 171, Number 2, 259-271. abstract
^ Jump up to: a b Richter S. et al. (2010). "Invertebrate neurophylogeny: suggested terms and definitions for a neuroanatomical glossary". Frontiers in Zoology 7:29. doi:10.1186/1742-9994-7-29.
Jump up ^ O'Brien E.K. & Degnan B. M. 2003. Expression of Pax258 in the gastropod statocyst: insights into the antiquity of metazoan geosensory organs.. Evolution & Development, Volume 5 Issue 6, Pages 572 - 578. abstract
 

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No, not really mainly because none of those 'articles' provide scientific evidence and none of them explain how is a slug's eye is working. They only stated the slugs have eyes.

You must be registered for see images

"The upper pair of tentacles on the head of the edible snail Helix pomatia have eyes, but the main sensory organs are sensory neurons for olfaction in the epithelium of the tentacles.

In terrestrial pulmonate gastropods, eye spots are present at the tips of the tentacles in the Stylommatophora or at the base of the tentacles in the Basommatophora. These eye spots range from simple ocelli that cannot project an image (simply distinguishing light and dark), to more complex pit and even lens eyes. Vision is not the most important requirement in terrestrial gastropods, because they are mainly nocturnal animals. "


source [ ]

References:

^ Jump up to: a b c d Chase R.: Sensory Organs and the Nervous System. in Barker G. M. (ed.): The biology of terrestrial molluscs. CABI Publishing, Oxon, UK, 2001, ISBN 0-85199-318-4. 1-146, cited pages: 179-211.
Jump up ^ Michael D. Miller 1998. Navanax inermis. The Slug Site, accessed 23 March 2009
Jump up ^ Kelly, P.M. and J.S. Cory. 1987. Operculum closing as a defense against predatory leeches in four British freshwater prosobranch snails. Hydrobiologia 144(2):121-124.
Jump up ^ Dattagupta S., Martin J., Liao S., Carney R. S. & Fisher C. R.(2007). "Deep-sea hydrocarbon seep gastropod Bathynerita naticoidea responds to cues from the habitat-providing mussel Bathymodiolus childressi". Marine Ecology 28(1): 193-198. doi:10.1111/j.1439-0485.2006.00130.x
Jump up ^ Davis E. C. (2004). "Odour tracking to a food source by the gastropod Meridolum gulosum (Gould, 1864) from New South Wales, Australia (Camaenidae: Eupulmonata: Mollusca)". Molluscan Research 24(3): 187-191. doi:10.1071/MR04008. PDF.
Jump up ^ Götting, Klaus-Jürgen (1994). "Schnecken". In Becker, U., Ganter, S., Just, C. & Sauermost, R. Lexikon der Biologie. Heidelberg: Spektrum Akademischer Verlag. ISBN 3-86025-156-2.
Jump up ^ Bever M. M. & Borgens R. B. 2005. Eye regeneration in the mystery snail. Journal of Experimental Zoology, Volume 245, Issue 1, Pages 33 - 42. abstract
Jump up ^ Hughes H. P. I. 1976. Structure and regeneration of the eyes of strombid gastropods . Cell and Tissue Research. Volume 171, Number 2, 259-271. abstract
^ Jump up to: a b Richter S. et al. (2010). "Invertebrate neurophylogeny: suggested terms and definitions for a neuroanatomical glossary". Frontiers in Zoology 7:29. doi:10.1186/1742-9994-7-29.
Jump up ^ O'Brien E.K. & Degnan B. M. 2003. Expression of Pax258 in the gastropod statocyst: insights into the antiquity of metazoan geosensory organs.. Evolution & Development, Volume 5 Issue 6, Pages 572 - 578. abstract

I edited my post. Slugs can't see clear images so Genjutsu might not work. Katon would still kill Katsuyu though.
 

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I edited my post. Slugs can't see clear images so Genjutsu might not work. Katon would still kill Katsuyu though.

Only his strongest Katon. Tho the truth is Tsunade can still place mini slugs on the other summons.
 

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@End of Days. And you are still trying to use the Sannin's Summonings here despite the fact that Madara's Genjutsu would make them his pets? Ridiculous.

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jiraiya is on top of his summons, genjutsu is futile

madara tries using genjutsu, pedochimaru impales him with kusanagi
 
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