[Discussion] Burgess vs Luffy

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Who do you think is the stronger one between the 2? BB is totally confident on Burgess victory yet he thought he was no match for Ace. Did he improve that much, or was Ace simply that much of a monster? Is he underestimating Luffy that much? I know he is a careless guy, but i don't think

Anyway what are your thoughts?
 

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I dont think Luffy is ready to take on the commanders of the Yonko. After he defeats Doffy he might be strong enough to defeat people like Jozu, Vista and Burgess.
 

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I feel that Luffy will beat everyone (including Burgess) but one person, for some reason Idk why, maybe because that person is stronger or that Luffy is tired after the rest of his fights. Anyways he's going to get the winner to join his team.

I hope and think that Luffy > Burgess
 

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Hopefully Luffy can beat Burgess, I'd love to see BB's reaction when it happens:snick:
 

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if luffy lost to him i will be disappointed.
 

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if luffy lost to him i will be disappointed.

Why? Burgess is a commander of one, if not the final villain. It would be kind of strange if he could beat him already.
 

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I dont think Luffy is ready to take on the commanders of the Yonko. After he defeats Doffy he might be strong enough to defeat people like Jozu, Vista and Burgess.

burgess was a nobody during the war. no way in hell hes stronger than dofla. jozu... dofla might toy with him.
 

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Why? Burgess is a commander of one, if not the final villain. It would be kind of strange if he could beat him already.

well before the TS BB said that burgess can't handle ace witch means burgess was one the same level luffy was

and not like burgess luffy trained with a leagend ... TRAINED there is a diffrenece between training and traveling on the

sea

so luffy's progress put him above burgress

and with BB being this clumsy !!!!! i don't see him or his crew stand a chance against the other yonko

don't get me wrong he has two of the strongest DF if not the strongest but he just don't know how to use them right

imo atleast
 

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Are you all crazy? Burgess should shit stomp Luffy. I'm sorry, Luffy's my man and all, but if he somehow BEAT Jesus, I'd probably quit reading the manga. Yup, it's that serious. Now, let's say, in the final round, Luffy, Bartolomeo, and Rebecca team up to defeat him. I'd be cool with that. But Burgess is the Commander of the Blackbeard pirates. His strength is probably ridiculous.
 

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I dont think Luffy is ready to take on the commanders of the Yonko. After he defeats Doffy he might be strong enough to defeat people like Jozu, Vista and Burgess.

What?! Luffy can beat Doflamingo but he can't beat Burgess?Have you hit your head on something? Doflamingo is one of the seven warlords and has been within the new world for years, maybe even decades.If luffy can come close to beating Doflamingo, he can destroy Burgess.

Are you all crazy? Burgess should shit stomp Luffy. I'm sorry, Luffy's my man and all, but if he somehow BEAT Jesus, I'd probably quit reading the manga. Yup, it's that serious. Now, let's say, in the final round, Luffy, Bartolomeo, and Rebecca team up to defeat him. I'd be cool with that. But Burgess is the Commander of the Blackbeard pirates. His strength is probably ridiculous.

Why are people like you overestimating BlackBeard and the Blackbeard Pirates?Before the time skip they were nothing and even after Blackbeard took WhiteBeard Devil Fruit he still ran from Akainu.Out of all the Yonkos pirate crews, the Blackbeard Pirates are probably the weakest.Being the commander of the Blackbeard pirates doesn't somehow put you on a level of a commander of the others Yonko Pirates crews or one of the Shichibukai, Buggy not included.Luffy beating Burgess wouldn't be as big a deal as you are making it out to be.Luffy beating the vice commander of one of the other Yonkos pirate crews would be.
 
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What?! Luffy can beat Doflamingo but he can't beat Burgess?Have you hit your head on something? Doflamingo is one of the seven warlords and has been within the new world for years, maybe even decades.If luffy can come close to beating Doflamingo, he can destroy Burgess.

Yeaaah no. Doflamingo is a WARLORD. Blackbeard is a YONKO. YONKO >>> WARLORD. Burgess being on a YONKO's crew and also being the COMMANDER should put him close to Doffy's power if not above it. Proof that Yonko are stronger is the fact that Doffy almost shit bricks when Kaido's name was mentioned.
 

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People are really underestimating Yonko commanders. Burgess was far stronger than luffy pre-timeskip. He might not have been on Ace's level, but that doesnt mean he was on Luffy's level either. Look at BB's confidence in Burgess winning the tournament even though there are people like Diamante and Luffy participating that alone means Burgess is crazy strong. BB is not the guy to underestimate someone, he always plans everything carefully. Dont get me wrong, I dont think Burgess destroys Doffy, but I think he high/xhigh diffs him. So he is stronger, but just by a small margin.
 

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Yeaaah no. Doflamingo is a WARLORD. Blackbeard is a YONKO. YONKO >>> WARLORD. Burgess being on a YONKO's crew and also being the COMMANDER should put him close to Doffy's power if not above it. Proof that Yonko are stronger is the fact that Doffy almost shit bricks when Kaido's name was mentioned.

Buggy is a warlord... Are you putting him on par with doflammingo or mihawk. These are just ranks they don't prove any form of power. It's just like the bounty thing.


Op: luffy win extreme difficulty. 2 times out of 10 with 8 times being a draw
 
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Okay seriously just because Burgess is a commander for Blackbeard it doesn't make him all that...the only reason that Blackbeard is classed as a Yonko is because of Blackbeard himself not his crew I mean the man's top 5 strength wise at the moment...

If Burgess does beat Luffy I'll be really disappointed in Luffy's strength growth as right now Blackbeard is far stronger than any of his crew mates.

The only way I see Burgess beating Luffy is if he has some hax DF like Marco's or something, if not Luffy should be able to beat him mid/high-diff.
 

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Buggy is a warlord... Are you putting him on par with doflammingo or mihawk. These are just ranks they don't prove any form of power. It's just like the bounty thing.


Op: luffy win extreme difficulty. 2 times out of 10 with 8 times being a draw

Lets be honest here, every yonko shits on every shichibukai with the exception of Mihawk.
 

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holy sh!t at people saying burgess is stronger than dolfamingo. are you ... are you shitting me.

burgess... the mothafuka who got fodderized by ace.

burgess... no one gave a fuk about him during the war. oh it's jesus burgess.. we're fuked.

burgess... not a single sweat was dropped when people saw him and heard the name.

oh cmon man he was probably invited in the tournament by dofla ryt? why would dolfa invite someone stronger than his best guys let alone him.

this is getting ridiculous
 

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Yeaaah no. Doflamingo is a WARLORD. Blackbeard is a YONKO. YONKO >>> WARLORD. Burgess being on a YONKO's crew and also being the COMMANDER should put him close to Doffy's power if not above it. Proof that Yonko are stronger is the fact that Doffy almost shit bricks when Kaido's name was mentioned.



Yonko>>>Warlord? You are basing this off what, Doflamingo is scare of Kaido.You do know that all Yonkos and Warlords are different, right?Meaning, some are stronger than others.By your logic, Blackbeard being a Yonko makes him as strong as Big Mam, Shanks, or Kaido when their isn't anything in the manga to prove said case.Furthermore, how does being a part of a Yonkos crew makes you as strong as the captain of said crew?Does Burgess have Blackbeard's devil fruits inside him?You use trivial child like logic.


Shanks is a Yonko, who in the manga was said to be his rival? The answer is Hawkeye, a Warlord.That in itself proves that your Yonkos>>>Warlords theory is nothing but a fallacy.
 
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