Orochimaru vs Danzo

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Lets be fair for a sec, of Manda, or whatever current snake is active to summon, overpowering this summon. First I don't see how Summons work in OP location. But hypothetically, lets observe Baku. [ ]. Observation, this chimera is part elephant with tiger-like limbs. Just through observation we know that Baku is much more physically powerful and has the claws to back him up. Baku can easily hold against his own and even his trunk can be use as a weapon. Just his truck can coil around Manda's neck, and straggle it. This summon is build for close combat too through its body shape, he just was summon at a bad location that made him only useful sucking crap up, in the manga.

Danzo has full of surprises since the last time they saw each other via Sharingans. He will get close. Oro needs to see it coming to prepare a rebirth. Thats why sealing him is the perfect opportunity, the user is unable to perform anything.

And what speed feats has baku shown with at least his trunk? He has shown no agility feats and considering Manda can go underground, manda has many options on how to kill baku. by the time Manda either bites his trunk or coils around baku, Baku cant do squat. Snakes are too slippery and their smooth scaley skin will make it that much harder for baku to grip onto them. Snakes have no bones so hypothetically if baku were to coil his trunk around manda, he gets bitten regardless; Coiling around his neck would prove impossible with the feats Baku has displayed. The location just puts this in mandas favor. With so many obstacles to mask his presence he has ample time to do various attacks.

Your analysis of bakus body structure is Mere speculation and as i have said, there are no manga feats to suggest hes faster than manda.

Going onto the seal part, if he did successfully do the seal, they both die. But orochimaru can then either stab him with kusunagi sword or escape via slithering mode. Orochimaru has the agility to out run the black orb which seals things inside of danzo
 

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There's no way Danzo keeps up with Oro's Shunshin.

Orochimaru has zero notable Shunshin feats yet you are wanking the living shit out of his Shunshin...lmao.
 

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What's the real difficulty here apart from the length of the fight? It's a serious question.

Oro can't take down Danzo that easily. His Izanagi and Fuuton aren't half bad. I'll give this to Oro, but he'll win with mid diff.
 

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Oro can't take down Danzo that easily. His Izanagi and Fuuton aren't half bad. I'll give this to Oro, but he'll win with mid diff.

Well, I might actually agree with you on this one. I might've underrated Danzo a bit. It shouldn't go beyond mid diff, tho.
 

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I see that Nattana's level of trolling still lives U_U
 

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Lol about that Uchiha powerup. Sasuke broke out of his seal with releasing chakra. Since he could release chakra, it means Danzo's seal doesn't block it. If chakra usage isn't blocked - Oro can use his Replacement Technique since it requires no hand seals.

Sasuke was never shown to fight Oro in Slithering Snake mode.
There's no way Danzo keeps up with Oro's Shunshin.

About the intel - I may have written it in a wrong way. Sorry for that. I wanted to say that Oro has massive amout of knowledge on both Sharingan and Hashi cells. Danzo's elemental nature isn't really a secret too, since it's what you're being trained at your village and since Oro cooperated with Danzo AND is from Konoha originally - there's no way he didn't know that.

Too bad you couldn't counter the rest of my previous post.

I like how your trying to give a free pass to everyone that are able to break the seal because Sasuke did it. There was a reason why Sasuke did it, and it was through emotion: [ ]. So please tell me whats Oro reason of breaking the seal.

Read chapter 49 again.
Danzo had upgrades since the last time he saw Oro via Sharingan, and part 1 2-tomoe Sasuke read him quite well, even praised by Orochimaru.

Thank you for clearing that up. At the end of the day Oro did not know what Danzo has up his seelves after the Uchiha Massacre and he will use that to his advantage.

What did I miss?

And what speed feats has baku shown with at least his trunk? He has shown no agility feats and considering Manda can go underground, manda has many options on how to kill baku. by the time Manda either bites his trunk or coils around baku, Baku cant do squat. Snakes are too slippery and their smooth scaley skin will make it that much harder for baku to grip onto them. Snakes have no bones so hypothetically if baku were to coil his trunk around manda, he gets bitten regardless; Coiling around his neck would prove impossible with the feats Baku has displayed. The location just puts this in mandas favor. With so many obstacles to mask his presence he has ample time to do various attacks.

Your analysis of bakus body structure is Mere speculation and as i have said, there are no manga feats to suggest hes faster than manda.

Going onto the seal part, if he did successfully do the seal, they both die. But orochimaru can then either stab him with kusunagi sword or escape via slithering mode. Orochimaru has the agility to out run the black orb which seals things inside of danzo

Why is speed feat important when the snake summon is getting close to him? I hope you know how mongoose are able to catch snakes Baku's body is built for it to not be a problem at all. Summons in this location favors no body, especially when Baku's suction will be immobilizing.

Not once did I said anything about being fast. All I talked about was physically encounter, which Baku will triumph or equal to.

I did not understand your last sentence.
 

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I see that Nattana's level of trolling still lives U_U

It's kinda sad when people skip every manga scan/fact I post. The easiest way to avoid proving I'm wrong is to change the topic and straight away start calling me a troll.

I like how your trying to give a free pass to everyone that are able to break the seal because Sasuke did it. There was a reason why Sasuke did it, and it was through emotion: [ ]. So please tell me whats Oro reason of breaking the seal.

Read chapter 49 again.
Danzo had upgrades since the last time he saw Oro via Sharingan, and part 1 2-tomoe Sasuke read him quite well, even praised by Orochimaru.

Thank you for clearing that up. At the end of the day Oro did not know what Danzo has up his seelves after the Uchiha Massacre and he will use that to his advantage.

What did I miss?

About chapter 49. I think u skipped the part where Oro said that it was fun testing Sasuke's skills. He wanted to see what Sasuke was capable of. And he did see that.
Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, Kakashi said in the manga that Sharingan user can, indeed, see opponent's movements BUT it doesn't mean his body could respond to the speed.

About Sasuke. His emotions didn't break him out of the seal. His emotions triggered chakra release. So it means chakra points weren't blocked. If they were he or his emotions couldn't have done anything. I don't see what stops Orochimaru from using his chakra to simply use his Body Replacement technique, since it requires no hand seals.

U missed the part where u said he'd have to change his host when getting cut by Danzo.
U also missed the part about Orochimaru's offensive power, 5 giant snakes and 8branches (don't bring the argument about it being featless please, I've already covered that matter in my previous post).
 
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I like how your trying to give a free pass to everyone that are able to break the seal because Sasuke did it. There was a reason why Sasuke did it, and it was through emotion: [ ]. So please tell me whats Oro reason of breaking the seal.

Read chapter 49 again.
Danzo had upgrades since the last time he saw Oro via Sharingan, and part 1 2-tomoe Sasuke read him quite well, even praised by Orochimaru.

Thank you for clearing that up. At the end of the day Oro did not know what Danzo has up his seelves after the Uchiha Massacre and he will use that to his advantage.

What did I miss?



Why is speed feat important when the snake summon is getting close to him? I hope you know how mongoose are able to catch snakes Baku's body is built for it to not be a problem at all. Summons in this location favors no body, especially when Baku's suction will be immobilizing.

Not once did I said anything about being fast. All I talked about was physically encounter, which Baku will triumph or equal to.

I did not understand your last sentence.

Your mistaken, The fact that baku can suck stuff up is of no relevance when he isnt sucking up the actual summon. The snake goes under ground and if you remember correctly, the summons jaw was bit enough to almost engulf Gamabunta.

Poise still has nothing to do with this because one a snake has you in its grasp, you cant escape. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

Im just clearing up the last jutsu danzo did before he died.
 

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Wasn't Orochimaru the one that gave Danzo his arm? So i'm pretty sure he has full knowledge
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Your mistaken, The fact that baku can suck stuff up is of no relevance when he isnt sucking up the actual summon. The snake goes under ground and if you remember correctly, the summons jaw was bit enough to almost engulf Gamabunta.

Poise still has nothing to do with this because one a snake has you in its grasp, you cant escape. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

Im just clearing up the last jutsu danzo did before he died.

HE doesn't need to actually sucked it up, it can use the suction to restricts its movement. If going underground is the counter then he simply doesn't need to do that move anymore and waits for physical contac0t to triumph. He won't be moving much with its claws ripping him down. Why is using Summons even up for discussion inside the Kage Summit?

In no way is "this snake", since Manda is dead or alive in this match up, going to coil around someone that inferior physically.

That last jutsu is useful for suicide bomb only how is that an actualy move to use? Unless one can argue that once Oro is sealed he uses it right in front of him.
 

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Wasn't Orochimaru the one that gave Danzo his arm? So i'm pretty sure he has full knowledge
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No the context only applied Mokuton experiment with Danzo thats all
 
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