[Theory] Kamui's limitations

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Initially, reiterating that: Naturally the Elder son should have maintained the Rikudō's eyes but his Dōjutsu represents the Rin'negan lacking the Yoton portions: the eyes can only surface when both entity's are unified. The Sharingan is a secondary consequence of the Rin'negan and eventually came into existence as the Elder Son's Dōjutsu suffered attenuation. It implies that the varying abilities both seen and unseen to present of the Mangekyō and Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan would have originated from his eyes. Highlighting the ability that is Kamui.

  • The jutsu is manifestly the pinnacle of specific abilities rooted within the general Sharingan as it differentiates entirely from the commonly displayed abilities. The key element to the jutsu is that it holds properties similar to Izanagi however their principles differ. Within the realm of Izanagi the physical user remains 'real' while in combat and the Genjutsu automatically converts any occurrence of injuries or death into mere "illusions" whether or not the user is cognizant or perceptive of the attack; thus severing the bridge between what is real and what is not. Kamui operates in like fashion, however, it is solely up to the user to determine segment, time and place on their body when the shifts between dimensions [reality and illusion] occur. Reality however is the foundation preceding illusion.The illusion remains only a reflection of what was actually there; hence why Obito maintains any damage dealt even after shifting through dimensions.

    [*] The justu also maintains properties sufficient to warp the fabric of space-time as a whole [rivaling a hypothetical wormhole]; deeming it Space time Ninjutsu.

Obtio's Mangekyō is truly radiant given it's eternal connection. Examining it's foundation: Genjutsu manipulates charka flow the the brain thus causing a ripple of the senses and may be used to insert an experience of false dilemmas within the desired target. Knitting this along with the aforementioned principle of Kamui, I thought that this [ ] specific instance spurred by Obito's overwhelming curiosity and concern was actually Kamui messing with dimensions; converting reality as seen and heard by Kakashi to illusion and relayed them as illusion to Obito [ ] also as portrayed in the recent chapter [ ]. Compiling the afore properties; Kamui as a jutsu is actually the ability to manually influence the intersection of Reality and Illusion----which naturally----allows the user to appear at any desired location on the plane of reality. The dimension in which Kamui users appear is theorized to be this intersection; where Imagination and reality remain in superabundance and are effortlessly produced by those able to manipulate the entities [ ]. It may be the site in which Rikudō Sennin dissected The Jūbi. Trending along, The Juubi now contained by Obito should naturally prohibit him from utilizing the technique as it would require it to exist as an illusion on the plane of reality which may contradict it's function as progenitor, the sole source of all that exists [ ]. That however contradicts Rikudo dissecting it within the realm but possibly illuminates a greater interpretation that the Jūbi's Jinchuriki may only be able to utilize the jutsu if Jūbi is complete. It would need to be of full composition maintaining the rudimentary principles of Reality and Illusion: It's Inton [ based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness] and Yōton [based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form.] portions respectively which it is currently lacking to be in sync with Kamui.

A similar work: History [ ]​

 
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You didn't explain the "limitations" in the slightest.

All you did was try to connect a space time ninjustu to genjustu.

Izanagi and Kamui don't operate the same whatsoever.
 

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Wow, amazing. Most detailed account of Kamui I've ever seen.
 

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Dainty.. As usual, excellent hypothesis and analysis by thee, Waltz. Possess questions that I shall interrogate you with, via Visitor Message.
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You didn't explain the "limitations" in the slightest.

All you did was try to connect a space time ninjustu to genjustu.

Izanagi and Kamui don't operate the same whatsoever.

It appeared. Lack of understanding doesn't equate to a lack of information. Do not question or pity the divine; respect them.
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i don't even think kishimoto himself put as much thoughts on kamui as thisZzz.
 

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Waltz said:
Jūbi's Jinchuriki may only be able to utilize the jutsu if Jūbi is complete. It would need to be of full composition maintaining the rudimentary principles of Reality and Illusion: It's Inton [ based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness] and Yōton [based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form.] portions respectively which it is currently lacking in Obito (Kyuubi and Hachibi) to be in sync with Kamui.

Bingo.. .
 
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I don't remember this thread. But excellence thread nonetheless, Waltz. From what I've seen, you and Varrah are pretty spot on with some of these theories if I recall.
 

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Much appreciated; we just piece details together that's all.
 
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