Why do people dislike naruto's character?

[messip6]

-Gimmick
-basicly a Messiah like figure
-He is nowhere near an underdog who have risen from the lowest; where he Will be was always high...sorry pal you can't be an underdog when you have uper-duper chakra levels, a free charger, being hokage's child and child of prophecy
-Tnj is laughable
-He wants things for the lulz; he wanted to be a kage for acknowledgement; does he even know what the f@ck a politician does?
-Stale and cliche.
-Repetitive
-"Imma break the curse" "i Will bring the peace"... He is arrogant as f@ck about the things he does not know shit about
-Too overshadowing with his lolsavior role and lolopness. He closes up the view.
-Same bs speeches over and over we got it.

Well that was my opinion. Some won't like it and disagree. But that's just How i see.

Stale, cliche, repititive..thats how all the other chracters are..or? i mean we've pretty much witnessed each of their kinds over and over again. i respect ur opinion man but just think about it..evry character in the manga is cliche since we're used to so many other charcters like that in other mangas, animes etc

 

[KisuneUchiha]

@ people who says Naruto use TNJ to much on Obito seriously to be honest Obito is using TNJ more on Naruto

Remember that Kishi wanted it as Obito||Naruto meaning that he wants Obito and Naruto to be like 2 sides of the same coin... Obito is what could have happened if Naruto gave in to the hatred and went evil...

 

[Optimistic]

I don't hate him, he's just boring af.I can find characters like him in any other shonen jump manga.

 

[Raekwon26]

But Raekwon, isnt that kinda expected since his name itself rhymes with 'savior'? I agree he's ignorant on some fins but after experiencing so much and still having that sort of will is kinda inspiring to others u know. I respect your opinion but i find it a lil extreme.

That's my main issue.
He's the main character, this apparent 'saviour'. He's been through so much that a simple will is enough for all to be forgotten and forgiven and we'll all live happily ever after because that's what he wants? Fine, main character and all, I get it.

But then comes the extreme ignorance and i'll use the Hyuga clan as my point.
This dude said he will change the Hyuga clan.
Really?
Really?

He knows ZERO about the clan, he's shown no interest in ANY member of the clan and he hasn't even had the decency to at least get educated about a few things before talking nonsense.
Who told him the Hyuga want to here what he has to say? He has no knowledge about them yet wants to change them?

I don't like that at all. That's some Jesus shit. It's going too far.

 

[uchihajaime]

By that logic, Naruto should hate his parents because they sealed Kurama in him and that caused that to happen. And to be fair, many people didn't understand how being a Jinchuriki works, not many people understood that the Fox was IN Naruto, many believed Naruto and the Fox were one and the same. That's why they had a resentment towards Naruto. Naruto was lonely because the villagers were protecting their children, they didn't want their kids near Naruto in case the Fox rampaged again.

Why would Naruto punch the guy in the face? The people aren't bigots at all. Naruto's entire goal was to show them that he was a good person and not someone who they needed to hate. The village saw Naruto as the Fox, then they saw him as a person, and then he proved his worth against Pein. You aren't just given appreciation, you EARN it, and Naruto fully earned it after the Pein fight.

He doesn't need to hate his parents or the village. He doesn't need to love or hate the village. Hatred and love is spectrum. it's not an either or scenario. With his father, it has handled well, he punched him. Minato comforted Naruto, explained himself and said he was proud. Naruto forgave father because he saw his reasoning. His mother did not make the decision to seal Kurama in him. Of course, he wouldn't hate his mom

You shouldn't hate the village forever but he shouldn't forgive them like that. He should have refused to accept their praise and demanded an apology. Then after several chapters focused purely on some actual character development, the village should have aplogized then then they're forgiven. Now, they haven't aplogized. Naruto's cool with that. This is wrong. He's cool despite the fact this poeple horribly mistreated him. Yes, their hatred was based on misunderstanding, as most hate is but they hated a child until he was 16. They should have been held accountable.

As for the last paragraph, I see your point. Naruto has to earn respect and he did earn it. That's a good theme. However, that ninja hated Naruto's guts when he was a child. Earning respect is good. Having to work to prove that you aren't evil incarnate since the day you were born is wrong.

 

[messip6]

Yes I wholehartedly agree with your point. and there in lies the problem with Naruto. The "twists" in Naruto never seem to really phase Naruto overall save for Jiraiya's death. The Saviour architype if fine and all for Naruto as he is the child of prophecy. But as others have stated, where's the versatility? Where is the doubt? Naruto, frequently, acts like he is still 12.

"I won't let you kill my friends"

"I will end this entire war myself"

"I will stop Madara and Obito without letting anyone die"

Even as a Saviour, these kinds of statements are rather immature and unrealistic in a true Saviour. Saviours don't do anything on their own. Even Itachi mentioned this to Naruto and it's like it went into one ear and out the other. I don't have anything against Naruto. I was fine with his character in part I as he was young. He is what? 18 now? And I really haven't seen a progression in his way of thinking or how he views the world.

Naruto is suppose to be a prankster like the fox spirits of mythology. But when's the last time he actually played a prank on anyone? another poster put it best in saying that Naruto's overall character has been detoured since this war started.

Look at Sasuke for example: We've seen a clear and distinct change in his development over the course of the series. He went from Avenger, to maniac, to where he is now, a young man attempting to find his own path in the world that has made him what he is. In many ways, Sasuke's character development is far more developed then Naruto's.

You are right about a lot of things my friend. but dont you think the problem then lies in his name and his signature will to never give up? that in my opinion made his development pretty straightforward since he doesnt change and never gives up on his beleifs, dreams, friends and etc.

 

[MetalGundam]

He was more interesting for sure...

He was perfectly made... Kisame's the best character in Shonen history...Aside from Rukia.

 

[Handsome Jack]

His idealism can be overblown at times. Other than that I think he's a great character.

I go with this :I

 

[take it easy]

1. which lack of experience you mean? 2. i see saviour like jiraya ,minato legacy for naruto. 3. sasuke not change his character... burn itachi, then burn villlage then burn bijuu and system. .. revenge under other words 4. you can called naruto immature and unrealistyc when hes created retarded plan like MEP. 5. naruto prove all his talk no jutsu by actions no jutsu... no one follow him only because hes saviour. 6. naruto not forget itachi word about teamwork,but only naruto have power to stop obito and madara

 

[mikeeozua]

He's incredibly ignorant, his idealism is god awful. If you said those kind of things to real political leaders, do you know what they would do? Laugh straight in your face and treat you like a child. This is exactly what he is, a child. His speech to Nagato was also awful. So just because you were lonely and have friend issues means that that Nagato as supposed to give a damn? Naruto knows nothing about war and I'm honestly surprised that Nagato listened to him.

His whole 'messiah' complex is cringeworthy. You can't just say 'Im gonna handle your hatred' and everything will be okay. People have lost families and everything they've lost in the war and they're supposed to throw all they'd hatred away just because some of kid on jumped up Pajamas told them to? Cringeworthy.

Then his whole situation with Neji. He claims he was an underdog. Laughable. Son of the fourth Hokage, Distant relative to the 1st, 2nd and 5th, student of the Sannin, this guy has a golden lineage. He was destined to be Hokage. Neji was right in every detail he spoke that day and had an pitiful death to make up for it.

He's an ignorant child who if offered, I would never follow in battle. That's my rant over.

EDIT: oh and also, how on earth does he expect to change the Hidden Rain? And the Hyuga? AND the Sand? The promises and the ways he's going, Konoha's revenue will plummet straight to the ground. Not to mention, this guy knows Zilch about the Hidden Rain or the Sand or the Hyuga in te first place.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

People hate Naruto simply because his name is the TITLE of the series, and thus naruto has 100 percent plot shield and cannot and will not die by ANYONE.. at all

 

[take it easy]

He's incredibly ignorant, his idealism is god awful. If you said those kind of things to real political leaders, do you know what they would do? Laugh straight in your face and treat you like a child. This is exactly what he is, a child. His speech to Nagato was also awful. So just because you were lonely and have friend issues means that that Nagato as supposed to give a damn? Naruto knows nothing about war and I'm honestly surprised that Nagato listened to him.

His whole 'messiah' complex is cringeworthy. You can't just say 'Im gonna handle your hatred' and everything will be okay. People have lost families and everything they've lost in the war and they're supposed to throw all they'd hatred away just because some of kid on jumped up Pajamas told them to? Cringeworthy.

Then his whole situation with Neji. He claims he was an underdog. Laughable. Son of the fourth Hokage, Distant relative to the 1st, 2nd and 5th, student of the Sannin, this guy has a golden lineage. He was destined to be Hokage. Neji was right in every detail he spoke that day and had an pitiful death to make up for it.

He's an ignorant child who if offered, I would never follow in battle. That's my rant over.

EDIT: oh and also, how on earth does he expect to change the Hidden Rain? And the Hyuga? AND the Sand? The promises and the ways he's going, Konoha's revenue will plummet straight to the ground. Not to mention, this guy knows Zilch about the Hidden Rain or the Sand or the Hyuga in te first place.

1. looking on hashirama like leader 2. naruto know about war. 3. naruto just help nagato understand mistakewith TNJ 4. naruto said himself that without iruka can choice sasuke way. 5 lineage without motivation and training mean zero in narutoverse. 6. what uchihas know about sand hyuugas and hidden rain? 7. naruto can lear village economy and other stuff.

 

[mikeeozua]

1. looking on hashirama like leader 2. naruto know about war. 3. naruto just help nagato understand mistakewith TNJ 4. naruto said himself that without iruka can choice sasuke way. 5 lineage without motivation and training mean zero in narutoverse. 6. what uchihas know about sand hyuugas and hidden rain? 7. naruto can lear village economy and other stuff.

Hashirama's equally as bad as Naruto.
-No he doesn't. He doesn't know the hatred between the villages.
-Why would Nagato care? He had seen true hell before his eyes
-By that logic, Lee and Gai would be the strongest shinobi in the whole of NV. Strength comes only through natural talent in the Shinobi world.

 

[-Spoiler-]

because he doesnt act like the arrogant dbags with the special eyes

 

[messip6]

That's my main issue.
He's the main character, this apparent 'saviour'. He's been through so much that a simple will is enough for all to be forgotten and forgiven and we'll all live happily ever after because that's what he wants? Fine, main character and all, I get it.

But then comes the extreme ignorance and i'll use the Hyuga clan as my point.
This dude said he will change the Hyuga clan.
Really?
Really?

He knows ZERO about the clan, he's shown no interest in ANY member of the clan and he hasn't even had the decency to at least get educated about a few things before talking nonsense.
Who told him the Hyuga want to here what he has to say? He has no knowledge about them yet wants to change them?

I don't like that at all. That's some Jesus shit. It's going too far.

Wel i kinda get your point now...he talks big and all that..and his motivation is one simple thing..'faith'..he believes he can do anything cos its his responsibility as the savior. That bit about the hyuuga rant says it all. He believes he can change people even without knowing much about them cos he believes everyone can change and all that. While i personally don't find much wrong with that, i believe kishmoto messed up a lil in fully developing a character to shoulder that kind of responsibility...

for instance the fact dat he doesnt know how to find peace buh believes he will find it can be a real turn off sumtyms..buh i guess the message dat kishi is sending out to readers is to have unflinching hope to achieve fins no matter how seemingly impossible they are. I guess his way of going about it is the problem though...his encounter with pain, though he made naive statements and such moved me though..i guess thats it then.

 

[take it easy]

Hashirama's equally as bad as Naruto.
-No he doesn't. He doesn't know the hatred between the villages.
-Why would Nagato care? He had seen true hell before his eyes
-By that logic, Lee and Gai would be the strongest shinobi in the whole of NV. Strength comes only through natural talent in the Shinobi world.

1.but hash more mature and have more life experience than naruto and made more mistake than naruto. 2.naruto dont need know about village hatred... this just useless 3. naruto see in one day: death of two teachers, village destroy and many more . p.s. nagato listen naruto answer because naruto not killed him in moment of meet and help nagato understand own mistake.

 

[messip6]

He's incredibly ignorant, his idealism is god awful. If you said those kind of things to real political leaders, do you know what they would do? Laugh straight in your face and treat you like a child. This is exactly what he is, a child. His speech to Nagato was also awful. So just because you were lonely and have friend issues means that that Nagato as supposed to give a damn? Naruto knows nothing about war and I'm honestly surprised that Nagato listened to him.


His whole 'messiah' complex is cringeworthy. You can't just say 'Im gonna handle your hatred' and everything will be okay. People have lost families and everything they've lost in the war and they're supposed to throw all they'd hatred away just because some of kid on jumped up Pajamas told them to? Cringeworthy.

Then his whole situation with Neji. He claims he was an underdog. Laughable. Son of the fourth Hokage, Distant relative to the 1st, 2nd and 5th, student of the Sannin, this guy has a golden lineage. He was destined to be Hokage. Neji was right in every detail he spoke that day and had an pitiful death to make up for it.

He's an ignorant child who if offered, I would never follow in battle. That's my rant over.

EDIT: oh and also, how on earth does he expect to change the Hidden Rain? And the Hyuga? AND the Sand? The promises and the ways he's going, Konoha's revenue will plummet straight to the ground. Not to mention, this guy knows Zilch about the Hidden Rain or the Sand or the Hyuga in te first place.

Well its not like he's gonna do everything himself..shikamaru and the other advisors will be there to help when it comes to the political matters lol.. Anyway, his character is that of someome with unmovable will to never give up on people n stuff. He motivates others to believe in their strength and all that..thats why both Nagato and Neiji even died with smiles on their faces. I guess thats how kishi wants us to see him..the great motivater who will move the world into great change by making people believe they can.

 

[messip6]

I don't hate him, he's just boring af.I can find characters like him in any other shonen jump manga.

well tim, that doesnt really mean much since u can find all of the other characters similitudes in other mangas as well..

 

[Umari Senju]

but naruto grow in intelligence with compare to goku or natsu

Okay point taken there. But that is really the only difference.

lol. you mean brainless killer ?

That would be the maniac Sasuke I mentioned in my previous post. BUT does Sasuke still hold that grudge? Yes. Does he want to destroy Kanoha and kill everyone their? No he wants to be homage to change things. This is a clear example of Sasuke's overall development in his character. We don't. See this in Naruto.

You are right about a lot of things my friend. but dont you think the problem then lies in his name and his signature will to never give up? that in my opinion made his development pretty straightforward since he doesnt change and never gives up on his beleifs, dreams, friends and etc.

But that is far too unrealistic. Saviours waiver. It is the will to push through the doubt and rise above the rest that make them what they are. Naruto doesn't ever doubt which is incredibly unrealistic. The reason people are drawn to a protagonist is because they can relate to him/her on some level.

We got this from Part I Naruto as he was the underdog. And everyone loves an underdog. But more than that a good character should have I ternal conflicts. Naruto's was the Kyubi. This is what made Naruto so like from the start. Not being able to control the beast within. Now that they are buddy buddy, their is no conflict within the Protagonist.which is fine for the most part as the hero should come to terms with himself at the end of the story. But a good hero, falters. They struggle. They doubt. It's only hi.an. But Naruto does not hold to this. Thus he is unrelatable.

Overall I don't hate Naruto. I'm rooting for him in the end. But his character is filled will flaws based in fantasy. That, and he is somewhat of a 1 trick pony when it comes to jutsu. But I understand your point and it's a good one at that.

 

[shelke]

He's a bull-charging peace-monger with a pitifully low intellectual capacity. And yet, he's a political activist for peace. That is a volatile mixture, folks.