Obito vs Tobirama

[Gakido]

Conditions: Obito is in the same form as when he fought Minato 17 years before the series start. Tobirama is alive
Knowledge: Current Manga
Battlefield: Konoha
Restrictions;

Tobirama may have Impure Ressurection summons of Itachi and Hizashi. Though due to Tobirama supposed lack of skill with the Jutsu, Itachi and Hizashi are at 20% and Itachi isn't able to access the Mangekyou Sharingan.

Kurama

 

[Misconception]

Kurama solo's...

 

[KidGamer65]

Tobirama wins if Kurama isn't going to be used against him, if it is he dies.

 

[Ababeel]

obito wins.

 

[Gakido]

No kurama guys

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok, then Tobirama definitely wins this. This version of Obito's only threatening move is Kamui, and Hiraishin is already a sound counter to that. He can even replicate what Minato did by marking his short sword and tossing it past Obito to hit him while he attacks, and then mark him.

 

[Gakido]

Ok, then Tobirama definitely wins this. This version of Obito's only threatening move is Kamui, and Hiraishin is already a sound counter to that. He can even replicate what Minato did by marking his short sword and tossing it past Obito to hit him while he attacks, and then mark him.

Would Tobirama even think of that? He doesn't seem proficient in using Hiriashin (While technically he could do it, it doesn't mean he would be accustom to it and could fail)

I would think that he would mark his Edo's to ensure that even if they get Kamui'd that he could get them back or even rescue himself if he gets Kamui'd, and fight in tandum with them to land a hit.

 

[Misconception]

No kurama guys

Adding restrictions after the thread has started smh...

 

[Ababeel]

even without Kurama, obito should win against tobirama.
but with the 2 edo, that might make tobirama win. ب_ب

 

[Gakido]

Adding restrictions after the thread has started smh...

I forgot about him. Why are you upset about restricting something that makes the thread a rape?

 

[Misconception]

I forgot about him. Why are you upset about restricting something that makes the thread a rape?

Im not upset... Im just saying making restrictions when the thread has already started to favor Tobirama the win...

 

[Gakido]

Im not upset... Im just saying making restrictions when the thread has already started to favor Tobirama the win...

So you want me to let Obito keep Kurama so he can shit on him?

 

[Misconception]

So you want me to let Obito keep Kurama so he can shit on him?

I Mean you didn't restrict it in the Op... Also Obito was still a kid then... Not only that Tobirama can pull another Konan on Obito plus he has a S/tech...

 

[KidGamer65]

Would Tobirama even think of that? He doesn't seem proficient in using Hiriashin (While technically he could do it, it doesn't mean he would be accustom to it and could fail)

I would think that he would mark his Edo's to ensure that even if they get Kamui'd that he could get them back or even rescue himself if he gets Kamui'd, and fight in tandum with them to land a hit.

Well, considering another Hiraishin user found it as a good way to intercept Obito while he attacks, I wouldn't put it past him to do so, but I don't know tbh.

Pretty sure that Hiraishin can't let the user escape the Kamui dimension, otherwise Obito wouldn't have acted as if warping Minato meant game over. Not to mention Kakashi stated only his and Obito's ST jutsu are connected.

 

[Gakido]

Well, considering another Hiraishin user found it as a good way to intercept Obito while he attacks, I wouldn't put it past him to do so, but I don't know tbh.

Pretty sure that Hiraishin can't let the user escape the Kamui dimension, otherwise Obito wouldn't have acted as if warping Minato meant game over. Not to mention Kakashi stated only his and Obito's ST jutsu are connected.

Kakashi nor Obito would have the knowledge on the dynamics between Hiriashin and Kamui to know if one couldn't escape the other. It also warps the user specifically to the tag, so im don't see why it would prevent it (If anything, He can warp while he or his Edo's are being Kamui'd.)

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakashi nor Obito would have the knowledge on the dynamics between Hiriashin and Kamui to know if one couldn't escape the other. It also warps the user specifically to the tag, so im don't see why it would prevent it (If anything, He can warp while he or his Edo's are being Kamui'd.)

Its a whole other dimension, that isn't connected to the real world in any way besides Obito eyes, hence Kakashi's Kurama cloak not reactivating when Naruto triggered it.

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I agree with him teleporting while he's getting warped, but I doubt he can do it afterwards.

 

[Gakido]

Its a whole other dimension, that isn't connected to the real world in any way besides Obito eyes, hence Kakashi's Kurama cloak not reactivating when Naruto triggered it.

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I agree with him teleporting while he's getting warped, but I doubt he can do it afterwards.

Actually, You just prove that you can't FTG someone out of the Kamui dimension that isn't yourself. (Kakashi wasn't teleported when Minato used FTG on the Alliance)

Though wether he can teleport himself or not is still up in the air.

 

[KidGamer65]

Actually, You just prove that you can't FTG someone out of the Kamui dimension that isn't yourself. (Kakashi wasn't teleported when Minato used FTG on the Alliance)

Though wether he can teleport himself or not is still up in the air.

lmao, totally forgot about that little fact.

I don't see why it'd be any different if he was teleporting himself. The same mechanics are being used, but on a different target.

 

[Gakido]

lmao, totally forgot about that little fact.

I don't see why it'd be any different if he was teleporting himself. The same mechanics are being used, but on a different target.

Because he's using an indirect link. He using something that's connected to his chakra and not simply sending himself to the mark.

Edit: Actually, I changed my mind. Tobirama stated that as long as trace amounts of chakra remain, that it would react accordingly when the originator manipulated chakra. Kakashi's predicament proves that chakra can't connect in transit to the Kamui dimension. So FTG can't escape the Kamui dimension or send him to the Kamui dimension.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

HAHAHAHAH. obito puts his hand on the ground and summons gedo mazo who proceeds to tank anything tobirama throws at it while obito waits for a chance to put tobi in genjutsu.

and yes he can use mazo. look at this

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