Susano'o...

[Mitarashi]

So, is the power of a Susno'o directly linked to the 'Maximum' power of the user?
For example, if Sasuke * Let's assume he has PS for this Argument * and Madara both used PS, would they be on Par? Would Madaras be better due to his Chakra reserve?

Also, do clone Susano'o maintain the same power as an 'original' Susano'o? Madara's clones have more than enough Chakra to use PS ( Infinite / Anynumber = Infinite )

So if Sasuke/Madara just spam PS clones...
GG?

 

[Snape Uchiha]

I think PS clones require a lot of CHakra. Madara was able to do it as an Edo, but I don't think he was able to make them alive, since he didn't use it against Hashirama.

 

[Lyke]

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[Mitarashi]

I think PS clones require a lot of CHakra. Madara was able to do it as an Edo, but I don't think he was able to make them alive, since he didn't use it against Hashirama.

Living Madara was able to keep PS up for almost a whole day, so 2 clones = 12 hours? 4= 6?
Does that make sense >.>?

 

[Snape Uchiha]

Living Madara was able to keep PS up for almost a whole day, so 2 clones = 12 hours? 4= 6?
Does that make sense >.>?

That could make sense, but sometimes it is hard to apply mathematical logic to the NV.

 

[Mitarashi]

That could make sense, but sometimes it is hard to apply mathematical logic to the NV.

I guess.
But if he uses about the same amount of chakra/hour with Susano'o, I don't see why It shouldn't work like that ( EMS = No fatigue ect )

 

[Xlad]

I think it has more to do with sustaining the Susanoo. The larger version would obviously need more chakra to sustain it. And on top of that, it seems only the original can perform PS due to having the original chakra network.

 

[Mitarashi]

I think it has more to do with sustaining the Susanoo. The larger version would obviously need more chakra to sustain it. And on top of that, it seems only the original can perform PS due to having the original chakra network.

I agree with the bolded text.
I don't see the next bit as valid, since Madara's clones used Susano'o without difficultly, why not PS?

 

[Fodder#3]

I've been trying to get this along-- Madara calls it PS is because it was the farthest level and power of susanoo he was able to get to in his period of life, but remember he had to hide from hashi, so he could not further increase the power of susanoo. That's what I think a "PS" is and means. People say it's a "PS" by the how it looks like. A "PS" is a final susanoo as well, but a final susanoo can't be a "PS" does that makes sense?

So knowing this, Madara can only use his PS when he's at a certain chakara level and power level. That's why when madara could not use PS on his clones because of the distributed chakara(clones)

 

[Mitarashi]

I've been trying to get this along-- Madara calls it PS is because it was the farthest level and power of susanoo he was able to get to in his period of life, but remember he had to hide from hashi, so he could not further increase the power of susanoo. That's what I think a "PS" is and means. People say it's a "PS" by the how it looks like. A "PS" is a final susanoo as well, but a final susanoo can't be a "PS" does that makes sense?

PS = Perfect Susano'o.
It's the most perfect manifestation of the Susano'o that is possible, it is a full human.

 

[Fodder#3]

^ Ur mixing it up with Final susanoo

PS is Madara's susanoo at its finest, thats what PS is.

Final susanoo is the fully armored and what not.

 

[Xlad]

Now that I think about it, you may be right. I think its these two:
- Clones do not have the same level of sustainment
- Madara's psychological tactic.

 

[-immortal-]

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Lol Both Sasuke and Madara susano FOdderize itachiz

 

[Ahmed1993]

I don''t know for the first question but for the last one , Susanoo or not , a clone divide your chakra by 1/2 , 2 clones divide it by 1/3 etc....
So Susanoo clones are way weaker than the original.

 

[Mitarashi]

I don''t know for the first question but for the last one , Susanoo or not , a clone divide your chakra by 1/2 , 2 clones divide it by 1/3 etc....
So Susanoo clones are way weaker than the original.

But It's not the susano'o that's being divided. It's the Chakra network of the user. If they still have enough chakra for a PS ( And they have to, because having PS activated = having enough chakra to activate it again ) then shadow clones should be able to use PS.

 

[Aya San]

Susanoo strength level =/= user strength. They are not directly connected. It's like saying this dude do martial arts better because he's stronger

 

[Ahmed1993]

But It's not the susano'o that's being divided. It's the Chakra network of the user. If they still have enough chakra for a PS ( And they have to, because having PS activated = having enough chakra to activate it again ) then shadow clones should be able to use PS.

You are right in a way , but Madara made 25 clones , so his chakra was divided by 25 , each clone would have enough chakra to only maintain Legged Susanoo , but not enough chakra to make a powerful attack , that's why their attacks were weak ( a regular Susanoo can destroy a pillar with a Punch yet a punch from the Susanoo clone wasn't even able to kill Mei , same goes for the sword power ).

And an Edo doesn't have unlimited chakra , he have the same chakra as when he was alive, but his Chakra regenerate a lot faster than when he is alive. ( that's why the Hokage had limitation on the number of clones when they did that barrier )

 

[adeshina365]

Clones used during Edo Tensei don't have an infinite # of chakra they can use at once; the amount of chakra they can use at once is still bound by the same rules as alive shinobi. The difference being that Edo Tensei clones recover their chakra nearly instantly. This was shown during Madara's conversation with Hashirama prior to Obito becoming the Juubi's Jin.

The power of a Susanoo used by a clone is definitely lessened. Compare the feats of Madara's V3 Susanoo clones vs. Sasuke's V3 Susanoo.

 

[Mitarashi]

You are right in a way , but Madara made 25 clones , so his chakra was divided by 25 , each clone would have enough chakra to only maintain Legged Susanoo , but not enough chakra to make a powerful attack , that's why their attacks were weak ( a regular Susanoo can destroy a pillar with a Punch yet a punch from the Susanoo clone wasn't even able to kill Mei , same goes for the sword power ).

And an Edo doesn't have unlimited chakra , he have the same chakra as when he was alive, but his Chakra regenerate a lot faster than when he is alive. ( that's why the Hokage had limitation on the number of clones when they did that barrier )

Infinity divided by 25 eh?
Lol.

Clones used during Edo Tensei don't have an infinite # of chakra they can use at once; the amount of chakra they can use at once is still bound by the same rules as alive shinobi. The difference being that Edo Tensei clones recover their chakra nearly instantly. This was shown during Madara's conversation with Hashirama prior to Obito becoming the Juubi's Jin.


The power of a Susanoo used by a clone is definitely lessened. Compare the feats of Madara's V3 Susanoo clones vs. Sasuke's V3 Susanoo.

If this was the case, why was Minato ect out of chakra when they were drained?
LOl.

 

[adeshina365]

If this was the case, why was Minato ect out of chakra when they were drained?
LOl.

Minato was hit with Onmyoudon which degrades an Edo Tensei.