Team Hiruzen vs EMS Madara

[Exaar]

Tell this to kishi.

Kishi made a statement that Tsunade's chakra was only enough for 5%?. Or did he make a statement saying Both tsunade and Sakura used enough chakra to equally summon 5% each?.

 

[Bantos]

Please stop pulling random numbers out of thin air.

No, actually full size Katsuyu is like... 30 times the size of full kurama. AT LEAST.
I'll give you a hint... the proof lies in the brancheeeees~
Just compare the damn branches with 1/10 Katsuyu and 50% Kurama(at least I assume that is the size of Naruto's Kuramamode.).

 

[Bronze]

Leave this thread. NOW.

We have never seen 100% Katsuyu. Even the 1/10 Katsuyu is bigger than PS.

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tell me another joke...

Madara Rules, it seems like you should reread the latest chapter :|

The Katsuyu you are talking about is only 5% of the real Katsuyu's body. In this chapter Tsunade and Sakura summoned 10% of her body.

100% Katsuyu is definitely as large as the PS or the SS

That was because Tsunade was at low chakra as well as Sakura.

 

[Bantos]

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tell me another joke...





That was because Tsunade was at low chakra as well as Sakura.

Seven hells.
1/10 Katsuyu is like 3 times Kurama. PS is like 1,5 times Kurama. Is that simple enough for you?

 

[thatgirl]

Except should she so choose she can go into a gel like state or did you not notice. In this case you're the tard here, so I'd go easy on name calling especially since susanoo can literally do no harm to Katsuyu j.s.

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and she is going to tank ps slash in her gel like state, or melt ps in her gel like state

oh wait i got it, she is going to trip susanoo in her gel like state and immediately reform and melt susanoo gg

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did you not see meteor getting smashed to pieces in an instant? but of course katsuyu is too fast for that

 

[Bronze]

Seven hells.
1/10 Katsuyu is like 3 times Kurama. PS is like 1,5 times Kurama. Is that simple enough for you?

nope. What you said is garabage speculation despite manga showing her full size equals to Bunta who is only half of 100% of Kyuubi. You have no proof that 1/10 Katsuya is 3 times bigger than Kurama. Ustabalized PS full form is twice size of 100% Kyuubi, and stabalized PS is even bigger.

 

[Tazzilla88]

nope. Full size Katsuyu size isn't even Mountain size to begin with. Her full size equals to Gamabunta who is smaller than 100% Kyuubi. Kyuubi is only as large as this Susanoo:

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That is only half of full Unstabalized PS:

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and that full Unstabalized PS is even smaller than stabalized PS.

According to Madara, the slash of his PS destroys creation:

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Slash of PS makes the Slug a food to eat.

Conclusion= Katsuya is probably the size of PS finger.

Dumb logic.
1. 5% of Katsuyu is larger than Gamabunta. Gamabunta is roughly equal in size to the one tails and at worst is have the size of the Kyuubi. But I tend to think his body is roughly the same size as the Kyuubi's Body, the Kyuubi however has long tails which are the size of it's body. Which would align with my scans below.Multiply Gamabunta by 20, or Shukaky by 20 and you get Katsuyu's full size. But foxes tend to be long rather than tall so let's take look at the fact that Shukaku and Bunta are both about as big as the gate that Kurama got pushed through.

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So now you have summon there is somewhere between 10-20 times the size of the Kyuubi.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

well if PS is about as big as the Kyuubi then Katsuyu should be at least two times greater

Madara still wins via susanoo sword bijuudama or base bijuudama though with Kyuubi restricted team can possibly take it to mid diff mostly due to Katsuyu

 

[Bronze]

Dumb logic.
1. 5% of Katsuyu is larger than Gamabunta. Gamabunta is roughly equal in size to the one tails and at worst is have the size of the Kyuubi. But I tend to think his body is roughly the same size as the Kyuubi's Body, the Kyuubi however has long tails which are the size of it's body. Which would align with my scans below.Multiply Gamabunta by 20, or Shukaky by 20 and you get Katsuyu's full size. But foxes tend to be long rather than tall so let's take look at the fact that Shukaku and Bunta are both about as big as the gate that Kurama got pushed through.

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So now you have summon there is somewhere between 10-20 times the size of the Kyuubi.

i have already disproved the Katsuya fanfiction size. Her full size is the same size as Bunta. Deal with it.
Moving on, Shukaku size = Yang Kyuub that's smaller than yin yang kyuubi meaning Shukaku and all bijuu (apart from juubi) are smaller than full sized Kyuubi. Bunta could only cover portion of yin yang kyuubi:

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Kyuubi' head was still visible after being pinned down.

 

[TheEvilOne]

So this version of Katsuyu [

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version Katsuyu? Madara Rules, are you drunk?!

 

[Strict]

Katsuyu can't tank any physical attack. You can't compare the impact the perfect Susanoo's sword does with the impact of Shinra Tensei, which wasn't even angled to Katsuyu's Body. Take a slug and throw her against a wall. You see the slug survived that impact without visible damage. Take a knife and you will still bisect her. Despite Katsuyu is able to split herself, it is probably a technique which has to be performed, like when Konan splits herself into paper but yet isn't immune to physical attacks.

Another thing I'm wondering about is, whether the bigger size of Katsuyu is connected to the loss of mobility. At least the slug we saw looked more immobile due to her mass and shape.

 

[Bantos]

i have already disproved the Katsuya fanfiction size. Her full size is the same size as Bunta. Deal with it.
Moving on, Shukaku size = Yang Kyuub that's smaller than yin yang kyuubi meaning Shukaku and all bijuu (apart from juubi) are smaller than full sized Kyuubi. Bunta could only cover portion of yin yang kyuubi:

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Kyuubi' head was still visible after being pinned down.




Concession Accepted.

Seven hells.

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Look at that difference in their size. IT'S HUGE. Or not. Their arms are even the same sized. And Katsuyu summoned by Tsunade alone in part 1 is even bigger than Gamabunta.

 

[Tazzilla88]

i have already disproved the Katsuya fanfiction size. Her full size is the same size as Bunta. Deal with it.
Moving on, Shukaku size = Yang Kyuub that's smaller than yin yang kyuubi meaning Shukaku and all bijuu (apart from juubi) are smaller than full sized Kyuubi. Bunta could only cover portion of yin yang kyuubi:

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Kyuubi' head was still visible after being pinned down.




Concession Accepted.

You didn't disprove anything. If Tsunade could summon the whole of Katsuyu by herself, so easily. Why the hell would she need Sakura to aid her in getting 10% of the Katsuyu there? Hmm. Better question with both the Byakugou seal and Kurama chakra if the full Katsuyu was that small why couldn't Sakura summon her by herself.
K. Neither of them were in a chakra, less state and both of them have their byakugou seals partially open. So Deal with it, roughly 5% of Katsuyu is equal to Gamabunta and Manda.

I have a fudging question. What does the length of the fox have to do with anything. What we're considering right now is how tall it is right? Do you have any proof it is taller than Gamabunta. I didn't think so.

 

[Bronze]

So this version of Katsuyu [

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version Katsuyu? Madara Rules, are you drunk?!

Perspective. You cant tell the exact size. The Katsuya Tsunade summoned was the full size because she had enough chakra to do so.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara destroys them in Scenario 1. PS is still far too much for them let alone PS armored with the Kyuubi. Once it comes out they get one shotted.

Madara loses Scenario 2 if Orochimaru has Edo Tensei. Hashirama would solo.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Perspective. You cant tell the exact size. The Katsuya Tsunade summoned was the full size because she had enough chakra to do so.

And where did her chakra go all of a sudden, she did just refill. She finished healing the kages and shikamaru. With a completely intact seal.

@Kidgamer
How large is PS in comparison to a bijuu. It appears to be the same size as the wood dragon... the one that tangled with full Kurama.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Perspective. You cant tell the exact size. The Katsuya Tsunade summoned was the full size because she had enough chakra to do so.

Lmao, now I'm sure you are trolling.

Part1 Tsunade summoned the Katsuyu without her yin seal and you are telling me that war arc Tsunade with the seal on her forehead needed Sakura's help to summon 10% of the Bijuu sized Katsuyu's body? Do you even know how stupid this sounds?

 

[Bronze]

You didn't disprove anything. If Tsunade could summon the whole of Katsuyu by herself, so easily. Why the hell would she need Sakura to aid her in getting 10% of the Katsuyu there? Hmm. Better question with both the Byakugou seal and Kurama chakra if the full Katsuyu was that small why couldn't Sakura summon her by herself.
K. Neither of them were in a chakra, less state and both of them have their byakugou seals partially open. So Deal with it, roughly 5% of Katsuyu is equal to Gamabunta and Manda.

I have a fudging question. What does the length of the fox have to do with anything. What we're considering right now is how tall it is right? Do you have any proof it is taller than Gamabunta. I didn't think so.

Seven hells.

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Look at that difference in their size. IT'S HUGE. Or not. Their arms are even the same sized. And Katsuyu summoned by Tsunade alone in part 1 is even bigger than Gamabunta.

Tsunade was at a very low chakra and so as Sakura, and because of their low chakra they couldn't summon her full size. Deal with it.

Bunta size only equals to Yang kyuubi.

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Yin Yang kyuubi is bigger than Bunta and full sized Katsuya. Manga fact. Deal with it.
:bye:

 

[Strict]

Well. The question remains what Katsuyu will do. One fast swing of the PS's sword reaches distant mountain ranges instantly and slices them. A power that according to Madara is able to break all creation.

The range of the sword slash on the other hand is larger than the size of Katsuyu. Seeing how Madara's Susanoo sliced all mountains in a 360 degree in a range larger than Katsuyu's body, why wouldn't the perfect Susanoo give Katsuyu a fatal blow? Even if she splits, she becomes even more useless. She could heal team Hiruzen, but one slash turns them to nothing. Gamabunta's physical feature equaled the one tail. The PS is more than two times bigger, faster, more agile and stronger.

It appears logical that Katsuyu won't even make a proper move before the PS will go berserk. Even less at 100% of her size and that shape. Team Hiruzen itself is basically nothing, this would be battle of Summons against the PS.

You didn't even restrict Kyuubi. Kyuubi with the Susanoo armor is overkill.

 

[Bantos]

Tsunade was at a very low chakra and so as Sakura, and because of their low chakra they couldn't summon her full size. Deal with it.

Bunta size only equals to Yang kyuubi.

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Yin Yang kyuubi is bigger than Bunta and full sized Katsuya. Manga fact. Deal with it.
:bye:

WHAT. Did your parents drop you on your head much when you were a kid? HUH? Better have so I could understand this nonsense.

DO YOU SEE THAT PICTURE? Are you actually blind? Or can you read?
Gamabunta is roughly the same size as FULL Kurama. Look at the image I posted. LOOK AT IT. Katsuyu as summoned by Tsunade in part 1 > Gamabunta.

Compare that Naruto's Kurama mode to the branched around him. Then Compare 1/10 to the same branches. Do I really need to start messing up scans with paint. DO I?