Is Curse Mark = Sage Mode, Or < Sage Mode?

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Depending on who is using it fools.
You automatically assume we are talking about fodders with cm and talk about main characters.

You people are so easy to read its ridiculous. If we're talking Sasuke and Naruto then its equal.
If there was a difference we would be seeing it right now, so fools get owned.

Curse mark >= Sage mode. Its > because its much easier to use and doesn't have any risks (only a fool would place the failed test subjects in this matter). Its equal because Well its natural energy. Curse mark also increases the user ability, the only down side is it takes chakra. Juugo's on the other hand does not so its basically the "complete" version of curse mark sage mode.

Overall its equal. DSM does not > SM, SM does not > CMSM, and CMSM does not > either of those.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

It's stated that the Curse Seal is basically a poor man's Sage Mode.

 

[Xāvî1]

I want to get a general consensus for a future thread.

I think it's more or less equal, but what do you guys think?

its a uncontrolled sage mode

 

[Avinash012]

Pretty much same but CM users can't control/use Senjutsu chakra as efficiently as SM users so SM is superior to CM , same as the difference b/w MS & EMS

 

[CDT23]

ehh not even a close match. SM has more added abilities, but it differs from the sm you have. The toad as we seen, allows Naruto to hit without making contact, improves sensing, etc. The curse mark is a unfinished adaptation honestly it seems like a little ass pull from kishi but i guess it fits in, i hope sasuke gets dsm instead of a curse mark upgrade.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

its a uncontrolled sage mode

Sasuke obviously defines this "fact"

Sasuke stopped Orochi's curse mark.
Stopped Juggo's.
Took Juugo's flesh.
Mastered at age 13-14.
Absorbed orochi.
Stopped Danzo's curse mark.
Etc.

All controlled with perfect chakra control.

 

[Transcendence]

Depending on who is using it fools.
You automatically assume we are talking about fodders with cm and talk about main characters.

You people are so easy to read its ridiculous. If we're talking Sasuke and Naruto then its equal.
If there was a difference we would be seeing it right now, so fools get owned.

Curse mark >= Sage mode. Its > because its much easier to use and doesn't have any risks (only a fool would place the failed test subjects in this matter). Its equal because Well its natural energy. Curse mark also increases the user ability, the only down side is it takes chakra. Juugo's on the other hand does not so its basically the "complete" version of curse mark sage mode.

Overall its equal. DSM does not > SM, SM does not > CMSM, and CMSM does not > either of those.

The larger amount of nature energy, on top of not leeching off the persons chakra makes SM > CM. Your explanation is lacking and invalid.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

ehh not even a close match. SM has more added abilities, but it differs from the sm you have. The toad as we seen, allows Naruto to hit without making contact, improves sensing, etc. The curse mark is a unfinished adaptation honestly it seems like a little ass pull from kishi but i guess it fits in, i hope sasuke gets dsm instead of a curse mark upgrade.

Its an asspull.....it was announced first waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sage mode....back in part one dude.
NB logic, everything that sasuke gets is an asspull but fails to look back and actually confirm it.

 

[magicman420]

Depending on who is using it fools.
You automatically assume we are talking about fodders with cm and talk about main characters.

You people are so easy to read its ridiculous. If we're talking Sasuke and Naruto then its equal.
If there was a difference we would be seeing it right now, so fools get owned.

Curse mark >= Sage mode. Its > because its much easier to use and doesn't have any risks (only a fool would place the failed test subjects in this matter). Its equal because Well its natural energy. Curse mark also increases the user ability, the only down side is it takes chakra. Juugo's on the other hand does not so its basically the "complete" version of curse mark sage mode.

Overall its equal. DSM does not > SM, SM does not > CMSM, and CMSM does not > either of those.

you cant call the curse mark and sm equal you cant even call juugos senin transformation equal to sm theyre similar in some ways but not on a comparable power level

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

The larger amount of nature energy, on top of not leeching off the persons chakra makes SM > CM. Your explanation is lacking and invalid.

It obviously shows that SM > CM while fighting Obito....it doesn't. Fail.
It does dummy, how do you think SM runs out. Just stop.

Juugo curse mark isn't the normal curse mark you people are thinking of. If it was there wouldn't have been a reason for Orochi to announce that to us because it would be obvious. It wasn't (to some people anyways).
Pure facts, deny, I don't care, move on.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

you cant call the curse mark and sm equal you cant even call juugos senin transformation equal to sm theyre similar in some ways but not on a comparable power level

Please show me.
Can Naruto give his flesh and allow someone else to create enzymes for sage mode? No.
Can Naruto fuse his sage mode? No.
Can Naruto enter instantly? No, there's also a time limit.

Seriously though, show me the difference in a current manga scan that shows a difference in power. This isn't dbz btw, what's with this power level stuff?

 

[-Punk-]

Yes i know DSM is SM but it's a higher lever , I believe DSM > SM , so don't bother with me cause i wont acknowledge your shit.

 

[Transcendence]

It obviously shows that SM > CM while fighting Obito....it doesn't. Fail.
It does dummy, how do you think SM runs out. Just stop.

Juugo curse mark isn't the normal curse mark you people are thinking of. If it was there wouldn't have been a reason for Orochi to announce that to us because it would be obvious. It wasn't (to some people anyways).
Pure facts, deny, I don't care, move on.

No... You're clearly in denial. I really don't have the mental fortitude to argue with someone who doesn't understand the difference between SM and an IMPERFECT replacement for SM, AS STATED BY OROCHIMARU; The creator of the Curse Mark. Move on fan boy.

 

[Booker]

It obviously shows that SM > CM while fighting Obito....it doesn't. Fail.
It does dummy, how do you think SM runs out. Just stop.

Juugo curse mark isn't the normal curse mark you people are thinking of. If it was there wouldn't have been a reason for Orochi to announce that to us because it would be obvious. It wasn't (to some people anyways).
Pure facts, deny, I don't care, move on.

When did you turn into a Sausage fanboy

 

[-Punk-]

Isn't Lord Jugos curse seal greater than the regular one ? or is it the same ?

 

[Avinash012]

Please show me.
Can Naruto give his flesh and allow someone else to create enzymes for sage mode? No.
Can Naruto fuse his sage mode? No.
Can Naruto enter instantly? No, there's also a time limit.

Seriously though, show me the difference in a current manga scan that shows a difference in power. This isn't dbz btw, what's with this power level stuff?

I don't think CM users can do something like this Bro

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No need to mention about Sensor abilities

When did you turn into a Sausage fanboy

He is still a Minato fanboy ..I think Sasuke is his 2nd fav charecter & Naruto is his least fav charecter

 

[Amaterasuice]

I like curse mark better, but no. Sm is stronger. Unless someone takes away the negatives of the curse mark, they're not even close.

 

[RaditzScouter]

Sharingan: +20
Sharingan 2 Tomoe: +40
Sharingan 3 Tomoe: +60
Mangekyo Sharingan: +200
Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan: +400
Rinnengan: +700
Cursed Mark: +50
Cursed Mark 2: +100
Imperfect Sage Mode: x2
Hashirama's Sage Mode: x2
Perfect Sage Mode: x5
Initial Kyuubi Chakra: x2 - x2.5
1 Tails: x3 (stated by kakashi)
4 Tails: x4.5
6 Tails: x7
Kyuubi Chakra Mode: x7.5
Biju Mode: x11

5 Gates: x3.5
6 Gates: x5
7 Gates: x7.5
8 Gates (maximum): x15

 

[FemmeFatale]

Essientailly just a sealed version that continuous stores natural energy because of the juugo cells. Possibly the same thing as the yin seal, just different functions