[Theory]Hagoromo always had access to the Juubi's powers

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When Kaguya at that fruit, she became a god. From what we've seen from the current chapters is that the Juubi's power lies within the fruit; so she gained access to the Juubi's powers. Anyway, she gave birth to Hagoromo. Now look at the similarities between Hagoromo & Juubito:
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The most notable similarity is the horns. Due to Kaguya, Hagoromo gained access to the Juubi's powers and this is further supported by the fact that Juubito looks a lot like Hagoromo (the horns and the symbols on the back). Also, the staff:
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The staff created by Juubito was from his Yin/Yang release and Hagoromo had that exact same staff. I think it all makes sense; Hagoromo had mastery over Yin/Yang Release and it is Yin/Yang Release that can create ninjutsu and nullify ninjutsu (CoAT and Onmyoudon). Hagoromo created the staff using Yin/Yang Release.

From all this, I've concluded that Hagoromo had access to CoAT and Juubito's Onmyoudon due to his mother eating the fruit that contained the Juubi's powers even before becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki.

Hagoromo was no regular human from birth.

Thoughts dudes?
 
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u read the manga too late...many guyz have proved it...u r late!
however nice try though..
 

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u read the manga too late...many guyz have proved it...u r late!
however nice try though..
Honestly? :'(

I've not seen a thread about this.
 

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its a obvious fact...as said in manga clearly..there is no need to prove it..tbh..i dont remeber..but many guyz have brought this thread..
and so6p's coat was shown earlier before the kaguya was introduced in manga...wats dere to state?
 

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its a obvious fact...as said in manga clearly..there is no need to prove it..tbh..i dont remeber..but many guyz have brought this thread..
and so6p's coat was shown earlier before the kaguya was introduced in manga...wats dere to state?
Oh, lol, what I'm saying is that SO6P had the Juubi's powers even before becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki.
 

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Oh, lol, what I'm saying is that SO6P had the Juubi's powers even before becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki.

dats known too from manga chapter 646..madara stated it clearly...read the chap bro..u will get it...
 

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Those similarities hold no ground. Hagoromo's "horns" are hair, just simply part of his hairstyle. Obito's horn comes with his form. It is also shown in the manga that his Shakujo is an aktual Shakujo, compared to Obito's which he simply forms one out of the onmyodon. I would say his horns are the same. Obito is simply taking shape after Hagoromo, trying to copy him. His appearance is merely his choice.
 

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A little bit off. The horns that Rikudou has, are his actual hair, whereas Obito's are from his form he took on becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki. And the staff Rikudou has is a REAL staff. Obito's is connected to his manipulation of Yin-Yang Release (as seen where he has an indentation in his hand with the black stuff).

OT: He didn't always have access to the Juubi's powers. He most likely had the Rinnegan because of the Fruit (inherited from his mother) and amazing chakra reserves. This allowed him to subdue the Juubi and seal it (not defeat it).
 

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A little bit off. The horns that Rikudou has, are his actual hair, whereas Obito's are from his form he took on becoming the Juubi Jinchuriki. And the staff Rikudou has is a REAL staff. Obito's is connected to his manipulation of Yin-Yang Release (as seen where he has an indentation in his hand with the black stuff).

OT: He didn't always have access to the Juubi's powers. He most likely had the Rinnegan because of the Fruit (inherited from his mother) and amazing chakra reserves. This allowed him to subdue the Juubi and seal it (not defeat it).
Ah, didn't know it was his hair. It doesn't explain why there are still similarities between Hagoromo and Juubito (the symbols and stuff).
 

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Ah, didn't know it was his hair. It doesn't explain why there are still similarities between Hagoromo and Juubito (the symbols and stuff).

Both of them have the essence of the Juubi. The Fruit is from the Shinju, which Rikudou inherited from his mother, and Obito has the actual Juubi in him. Easy explanation my friend.
 

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Both of them have the essence of the Juubi. The Fruit is from the Shinju, which Rikudou inherited from his mother, and Obito has the actual Juubi in him. Easy explanation my friend.
I think I get it now.

The Fruit gave birth to the Rinnegan which gives birth to CoAT, unlike becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki which gives you the ability to nullify ninjutsu. So the Fruit gives birth to ninjutsu while Onmyoudon destroys it?
 

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I think I get it now.

The Fruit gave birth to the Rinnegan which gives birth to CoAT, unlike becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki which gives you the ability to nullify ninjutsu. So the Fruit gives birth to ninjutsu while Onmyoudon destroys it?

Well... Onmyoudon is most likely rooted within the manipulation of Yin-Yang Release (Since it allows you to control creation and it gives Obito control over what he wants to erase as Ninjutsu). It's possible that Rikudou had the ability Pre-Jin simply because what he inherited from his mother is rooted within the Juubi as it came from it in the first place.
 

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Rikudou was born with juubi's chakra, and so it's safer to assume that he possessed rinnegan since the birth. .you can say he was a juubi in a small humanoid form Lol. .he never had to borrow juubi's powers externally. . he himself was as strong as juubi. .

well this is wat i derived after reading that chapter. . i think i'm not wrong
 
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