Establishing why Gaara beats Itachi

[Prince Charles]

No one throwing jabs at my post? Lel.

OT - Honestly the type of shinobi and the caliber that Itachi is, He will find flaws and start to form strategies right off bat to end gaara rather quickly and thats simply the realism of the matter. Like it or not.

 

[Shura]

No one throwing jabs at my post? Lel.

OT - Honestly the type of shinobi and the caliber that Itachi is, He will find flaws and start to form strategies right off bat to end gaara rather quickly and thats simply the realism of the matter. Like it or not.

Can you just counter my counter to Waltz then? ._. I want to confirm if Itachi beats him or not.

 

[Nous]

I would, but I have doubts.. I am waiting for Waltz reply to see if Itachi really is > Gaara. Your point is good as well, but read the first point I brought up when I was countering Waltz. Gaara most likely has knowledge on Itachi's Genjutsu so he won't look into his eyes if he isn't a fool and I don't believe that Gaara is a fool.

Appreciated.

I would argue such but I am under the assumption this thread shan't last long. Waltz-sama got this anyways.. >_> Wish CR could be in this to. Shall be reading. In addition to such [quick question/brain fart]...

Can Gaara control Amaterasu [indirect]? It does succumb to the ignition effect of Amaterasu.. Can Gaara formate his sand to control it via sand movement?

@Waltz-sama
Expect illustrious rebut from thou

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[uchiha kant i]

no izanagi or izanami and itachi can out u under his genjutsu even without looking. itachi and madara are by far d most unpredictable characters in the naruto series, even to d characters in d series. itachi wont even use ninjutsu on gara. and u know hes former anbu, so he def has info about otjer kages. when making a thread, think about what d person knows and hes behavior. and gaara can no way take on sage kabuto. just saying.lol

 

[Waltz]

@ AkatsukiChurch: There's nothing hinting that Itachi specifically much less the ramifications of Tsukuyomi was apart of the information relayed to Sunagakure. In actually, it was only rumor [

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] completely refuting your initial argument. As regards your 'short range' argument, it is subjective to both:

-> Gaara's distance away from Itachi at the beginning of the Battle.
-> The Third eye's distance away from Itachi.

Detailing untouched in the Opening Post. Also it's rather easy for Itachi to approach the Eye or Gaara via Karasu. I've already elaborated that direct Eye contact is already supplied through the eye as it must be attached to Gaara's Brain via chakra enabling him to see; an identical function----Sand Tsunami is entirely subjective. As regards The Izanami; Itachi already expanded upon the rudiments of the Genjutsu. ​

 

[Smd]

this and then its time to study

He walked into the sand village with sasori [ but no help ] and koed gaara in his own living room, w/o eveing being forced to use c4 or c2

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deidara gging gaara guards

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But yeah he can beat itachi, when he couldnt adjust to this with bijuu

 

[Shura]

Appreciated.

I would argue such but I am under the assumption this thread shan't last long. Waltz-sama got this anyways.. >_> Wish CR could be in this to. Shall be reading. In addition to such [quick question/brain fart]...

Can Gaara control Amaterasu [indirect]? It does succumb to the ignition effect of Amaterasu.. Can Gaara formate his sand to control it via sand movement?

@Waltz-sama
Expect illustrious rebut from thou

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You seem to know a lot about Itachi now. I didn't learn about him for a while so mind PM'ing me Itachi's counters to Kisame in his fusion state while he is in the Water Dome? Itachi is most likely superior to Kisame, but I don't see what Itachi's counter to the Water Dome is except maybe the Yata Mirror. There is also one more misconception about Amaterasu I want to clear up.

@ AkatsukiChurch: There's nothing hinting that Itachi specifically much less the ramifications of Tsukuyomi was apart of the information relayed to Sunagakure. In actually, it was only rumor [

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] completely refuting your initial argument. As regards your 'short range' argument, it is subjective to both:

-> Gaara's distance away from Itachi at the beginning of the Battle.
-> The Third eye's distance away from Itachi.

Detailing untouched in the Opening Post. Also it's rather easy for Itachi to approach the Eye or Gaara via Karasu. I've already elaborated that direct Eye contact is already supplied through the eye as it must be attached to Gaara's Brain via chakra enabling him to see; an identical function----Sand Tsunami is entirely subjective. Was never stated or implied that The Izanami Genutsu only works against shinobi that "won't accept who they are"; Itachi already expanded upon the rudiments of the Genjutsu. ​

I see. Thank you for the reply, Waltz. I appreciate it. If you don't mind, look at my reply to Nous and if you could answer those questions, that would be great.

 

[-Punk-]

Oho ? .....i see some great debaters agreeing with is , so i guess , imma fallow *jumps ship*

Gara > Itachi GG#

 

[Shura]

Oho ? .....i see some great debaters agreeing with is , so i guess , imma fallow *jumps ship*

Gara > Itachi GG#

Nah, man. Get out of the train. Itachi beats him after all.

 

[Fodder#4]

You seem to know a lot about Itachi now. I didn't learn about him for a while so mind PM'ing me Itachi's counters to Kisame in his fusion state while he is in the Water Dome? Itachi is most likely superior to Kisame, but I don't see what Itachi's counter to the Water Dome is except maybe the Yata Mirror. There is also one more misconception about Amaterasu I want to clear up.




I see. Thank you for the reply, Waltz. I appreciate it. If you don't mind, look at my reply to Nous and if you could answer those questions, that would be great.

Incorrect. And, here you even told me Kisame was stronger and the winner more times then naught in a battle...

P.S. There is no such counter.

 

[Prince Charles]

Can you just counter my counter to Waltz then? ._. I want to confirm if Itachi beats him or not.

I read through your post to waltz.

For one you assume the sand has intel on Itachi due to jiraiya giving them intel regarding akatsuki which is very vague. Sure I will not throw out the possibility that gaara potentially has knowledge on his MS techniques but it's all fan fiction as of right now. Regarding Dr.proof posts his main argument for tysukuyomi is the range length at which it can be activated on to the victim, I have already listed counters to that as seeing per say Gaara is on the surface, Itachi can simply close the gap with his shunshin or using his dusk crow genjutsu and simply shunshin blitzed his clone over to gaara and have the crow clone to activate the genjutsu, or rather simply perform his finger genjutsu which gaara has no knowledge on unless your implying gaara by accident won't look at his finger by accident, which is fan fiction at it's finest.

If gaara takes to the flies which I already went over via Itachi's speed and height at which he can jump with the combination of

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which he will then proceed to crush gaara on the spot and no his sand armor isnt saving from getting crushed via sussano when all it took was rock lee chunin exam punches to crack his sand armor. Or once again regarding gaara taking flight, Itachi can simply send up Crow clones and make them re form as Itachi and use dusk crow genjutsu.

Regarding 3rd eye, Itachi should be capable of spotting it rather easily as he a

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. With the use of explosion tags and etc and making clouds of smoke, itachi can easily cloud his location and prep for a amaterasu. Regarding gaara's sensing sand, it will be troublesome when the victim makes contact with the sand I won't deny will be a pain in the ass.

In no way shape or forming am I saying gaara get's stomped or can never win but realistically I dont see Itachi losing.

 

[Shura]

I read through your post to waltz.

For one you assume the sand has intel on Itachi due to jiraiya giving them intel regarding akatsuki which is very vague. Sure I will not throw out the possibility that gaara potentially has knowledge on his MS techniques but it's all fan fiction as of right now. Regarding Dr.proof posts his main argument for tysukuyomi is the range length at which it can be activated on to the victim, I have already listed counters to that as seeing per say Gaara is on the surface, Itachi can simply close the gap with his shunshin or using his dusk crow genjutsu and simply shunshin blitzed his clone over to gaara and have the crow clone to activate the genjutsu, or rather simply perform his finger genjutsu which gaara has no knowledge on unless your implying gaara by accident won't look at his finger by accident, which is fan fiction at it's finest.

If gaara takes to the flies which I already went over via Itachi's speed and height at which he can jump with the combination of

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which he will then proceed to crush gaara on the spot and no his sand armor isnt saving from getting crushed via sussano when all it took was rock lee chunin exam punches to crack his sand armor. Or once again regarding gaara taking flight, Itachi can simply send up Crow clones and make them re form as Itachi and use dusk crow genjutsu.

Regarding 3rd eye, Itachi should be capable of spotting it rather easily as he a

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. With the use of explosion tags and etc and making clouds of smoke, itachi can easily cloud his location and prep for a amaterasu. Regarding gaara's sensing sand, it will be troublesome when the victim makes contact with the sand I won't deny will be a pain in the ass.

I agreed with Waltz already. You're late, Charlie.

Incorrect. And, here you even told me Kisame was stronger and the winner more times then naught in a battle...

P.S. There is no such counter.

Nah, I haven't debated for Itachi in a while so I forgot about most of his tricks and capabilities. Itachi is superior to both Sasori and Kisame. It's also implied by the manga that Itachi beats Kisame.

 

[Javaweb]

Are you guys forgetting Itachi could use water style

 

[Shura]

Are you guys forgetting Itachi could use water style

Suiton isn't really that helpful here. I agree that Itachi wins now, but not via Suiton.

 

[-Punk-]

Nah, man. Get out of the train. Itachi beats him after all.

Ah , i see . *drives towards the sunset *

 

[Bronze]

how does Gaara's eye sand exactly help him against Tsukuyomi? You haven't given a counter attack that the eye sand has for Tsukuyomi. All you said is helping him avoiding eye contact.

You seem to forget that if Gaara's has been hit by Genjutsu that means his chakra is under Itachi's control which means eye sand isn't going to save him.

 

[Fodder#4]

Pitiful, AC. Real distasteful.

 

[Javaweb]

Suiton isn't really that helpful here. I agree that Itachi wins now, but not via Suiton.

True but if he was fighting near a body of water that would be a good advantage

 

[Fodder#4]

Establishing why; Itachi > Kisame;

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The fact that someone puts up a good argument for Itachi is enough to change your mind on whether or not he beats your favorite character? And make you seemingly fan over him more so. Distasteful.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Nicely done.....but imho Gaara would lose to Itachi 10,000/10,000.,