EMS Madara vs ALL Kage [Except the Hokage]

[TheEvilOne]

Madara solos even if you allow the Hokages ( w/o Hashi ). Restrict Kurama and he loses.

 

[Minator93]

Muu and Ohonoki are the only real challenge here but they afll short against the might of the Perfect Susanoo U_U

Madara is too OP. Only Hokages are on his level U_U

 

[TheTailedSage]

Just Curious

EMS Madara w/ Nine Tails vs All Known* Kage [Except Hokage]

all know kage means:

3rd and 4th Raikage
Muu and Onoki
2nd Mizukage and Mei
3rd,4th Kazekage and Gaara

Personally i think that the Kages take this High difficulty. 3rd and 4th raikage can keep the ninetails busy while the rest of the Kages defeat Madara

Your thoughts?

Are you on some form of medication??? The kages each take a steamy dump on madaras battle armour. Neg difficulty

Madara EMS is on high kage tier but he isnt taking all kage on. No freaking way

 

[KidGamer65]

All I see is Madara wins or stomps but no arguments for that stance.

 

[Prince Charles]

Madara rapes low diff.

PS+kyuubi makes this a blood bath.

 

[TheTailedSage]

All I see is Madara wins or stomps but no arguments for that stance.

I fail to see how the kages lose. Care to breifly explain how madara "stomps"

 

[KidGamer65]

I fail to see how the kages lose. Care to breifly explain how madara "stomps"

I fail to see how the Kage get past PS or even hinder it at all. I fail to see how they even get through 1 Bijuu Dama fired by Kurama. Also where did I say it'd be a stomp?

The Kage aren't winning this and they definitely aren't taking this neg diff or stomping, that's just ridiculous.

 

[Prince Charles]

I fail to see how the Kage get past PS or even hinder it at all. I fail to see how they even get through 1 Bijuu Dama fired by Kurama. Also where did I say it'd be a stomp?

The Kage aren't winning this and they definitely aren't taking this neg diff or stomping, that's just ridiculous.

Lol madara rapes.. Kyuubi isnt even needed, PS alone is enough to end this. People underestimate the overwhelming power of PS, adding kyuubi with PS blades mixed with Tbb's ... I mean it's pretty self explanatory.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol madara rapes.. Kyuubi isnt even needed, PS alone is enough to end this. People underestimate the overwhelming power of PS, adding kyuubi with PS blades mixed with Tbb's ... I mean it's pretty self explanatory.

Exactly, they see a bunch of Kage teamed up together and completely forget about movesets and say "Kage rape!" Even though feats clearly disagree.

 

[TheTailedSage]

I fail to see how the Kage get past PS or even hinder it at all. I fail to see how they even get through 1 Bijuu Dama fired by Kurama. Also where did I say it'd be a stomp?

The Kage aren't winning this and they definitely aren't taking this neg diff or stomping, that's just ridiculous.

You said he wins or stomps. You seem to bé forgetting ge held their own against mokuton Complete susano'o clones, though this is PS, the durability of this isnt tanking attacks from all kage. Especiall Mu and oonki Particle release, keeping in mind oonki can make sand,gold, dust and iron sand a lot more lighter, they have that tactic to keep PS on its toes, no special technique to wipe them out with because he has no mokuton release.

Second mizukage and the clam Wont baffle madara for long but it is long enough for them to make their move. Even with joki boys help it makes their job that much easier. Gaara can also keep kage air bourne if necessary and bijudama.... Its a speculation but dont you think particle style is enough to clash with it?. Furthermore your forgetting that bijudama takethe kages formulate a plan to at least pin kurama. Raikageused on the kyyubi with their durability and speed. One finger from the 3rd raikage and oonkis light weight tech, i dont see whats stopping a sucessful pursuit.

What stopping gaara and the other kazekage from dragging madara out of susano'o? They can fly and evade attacks easier AND control sand/gold dust/iron

 

[shelke]

Why is Kurama even needed? He goes into PS modes, swings his sword and all of them are slaughtered. They have no defenses or speed to save themselves or evade such a devastating shock wave that rent a few large mountains to dust. Wow, I am not even a fan of Madara, but the guy is seriously under-rated here.

They won't even get past Madara's Final Suano'o. Even that is freaking huge that took a point blank Bijuu Dama on its swords for that matter, and wasn't even scratched. They lose, simple as that. And yes, it's a low difference obliteration.

 

[Prince Charles]

Comparing sussano mukoton clones to PS? .....

 

[TheTailedSage]

Comparing sussano mukoton clones to PS? .....

M using that as an example of strategic movements, they took out multiple at the same time thanks to jinton. It would bé a mere speculation to say jinton cant break through PS. Just a question, is madaras sword swings accurate enough to hit moving flying targets. Remember the speed is enhanced by oonkis jutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

You said he wins or stomps. You seem to bé forgetting ge held their own against mokuton Complete susano'o clones, though this is PS, the durability of this isnt tanking attacks from all kage. Especiall Mu and oonki Particle release, keeping in mind oonki can make sand,gold, dust and iron sand a lot more lighter, they have that tactic to keep PS on its toes, no special technique to wipe them out with because he has no mokuton release.

lol, that was a typo. I meant to put Kage.

? You can't be serious here? PS tanked a Bijuu dama from Full Kurama, they aren't doing anything to it once its out here, to say they will is completely ridiculous and laughable at best, unless any of the Kage have moves that are stronger than a Bijuu Dama combined? Which they don't, and since this is EMS Madara, it'd most likely be armored onto Kurama, but that isn't even needed. PS alone would rape them.

Ok? So what if he can make it lighter, its not going to save them from

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He has no technique to wipe them out without Mokuton? How do you sound right now? He has attacks that make his Mokuton look like shit, as shown above.

Jinton is far too small to even phase Perfect Susanoo considering a

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to date. Not to mention it takes time to charge, and in that time, Madara kills them all.

Second mizukage and the clam Wont baffle madara for long but it is long enough for them to make their move. Even with joki boys help it makes their job that much easier. Gaara can also keep kage air bourne if necessary and bijudama.... Its a speculation but dont you think particle style is enough to clash with it?. Furthermore your forgetting that bijudama takethe kages formulate a plan to at least pin kurama. Raikageused on the kyyubi with their durability and speed. One finger from the 3rd raikage and oonkis light weight tech, i dont see whats stopping a sucessful pursuit.

Its not going to baffle Madara at all due to Sharingan, which sees through Genjutsu, not to mention his moves using Kurama or PS cover the whole battlefield as shown above, so it doesn't really matter if Madara can't see them as any of these moves would kill them along with the clam.

Bijuu Dama's explosion covered Mountains, 100% Kyuubi's is stronger than that as shown above (Those things by it are Mountains) Unless they are going to be fighting Madara at a height that is far above Mountain elevation, which is impossible, flight isn't helping them at all. Not to mention he can just fire at them while they are in the air.

Sure, Jinton can be fired at Bijuu Dama.....but he'd only cause it to blow up thus killing them while Madara tanks it.

You can't be serious? :| Pin the Kyuubi? So they are going to pin the Kyuubi despite not even being able to get past its Bijuu Dama? They definitely aren't blitzing Madara and the Kyuubi before

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. How are they going to pin the Kyuubi when it can be armored by PS? If he is using PS Kurama, then its sword slash or a Bijuu Dama kill them before they get anywhere near it.

What stopping gaara and the other kazekage from dragging madara out of susano'o? They can fly and evade attacks easier AND control sand/gold dust/iron

Yeah....no.

He only managed that cause Madara's Susanoo had no legs,

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Not to mention he had to hold Susanoo down.

1. They aren't sending enough sand that is strong enough to hold down Perfect Susanoo.

2. PS has legs, so that renders this whole strategy moot as the sand has no way of getting in to begin with.

They can fly, but they aren't avoiding any form of Bijuu Dama, any form of PS's sword slash and it doesn't really matter if they can control gold/sand/iron cause it can't hurt or even phase Madara in the slightest.

I was expecting something more convincing considering you believe they take this "neg diff" Now I'm saying it. Madara stomps and Kurama isn't even needed, this argument doesn't convince me nor should it convince anyone else that the Kage even win this let alone neg diff.

 

[TheTailedSage]

lol, that was a typo. I meant to put Kage.

? You can't be serious here? PS tanked a Bijuu dama from Full Kurama, they aren't doing anything to it once its out here, to say they will is completely ridiculous and laughable at best, unless any of the Kage have moves that are stronger than a Bijuu Dama combined? Which they don't, and since this is EMS Madara, it'd most likely be armored onto Kurama, but that isn't even needed. PS alone would rape them.

Ok? So what if he can make it lighter, its not going to save them from

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He has no technique to wipe them out without Mokuton? How do you sound right now? He has attacks that make his Mokuton look like shit, as shown above.

Jinton is far too small to even phase Perfect Susanoo considering a

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to date. Not to mention it takes time to charge, and in that time, Madara kills them all.



Its not going to baffle Madara at all due to Sharingan, which sees through Genjutsu, not to mention his moves using Kurama or PS cover the whole battlefield as shown above, so it doesn't really matter if Madara can't see them as any of these moves would kill them along with the clam.

Bijuu Dama's explosion covered Mountains, 100% Kyuubi's is stronger than that as shown above (Those things by it are Mountains) Unless they are going to be fighting Madara at a height that is far above Mountain elevation, which is impossible, flight isn't helping them at all. Not to mention he can just fire at them while they are in the air.

Sure, Jinton can be fired at Bijuu Dama.....but he'd only cause it to blow up thus killing them while Madara tanks it.

You can't be serious? :| Pin the Kyuubi? So they are going to pin the Kyuubi despite not even being able to get past its Bijuu Dama? They definitely aren't blitzing Madara and the Kyuubi before

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. How are they going to pin the Kyuubi when it can be armored by PS? If he is using PS Kurama, then its sword slash or a Bijuu Dama kill them before they get anywhere near it.





Yeah....no.

He only managed that cause Madara's Susanoo had no legs,

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Not to mention he had to hold Susanoo down.

1. They aren't sending enough sand that is strong enough to hold down Perfect Susanoo.

2. PS has legs, so that renders this whole strategy moot as the sand has no way of getting in to begin with.

They can fly, but they aren't avoiding any form of Bijuu Dama, any form of PS's sword slash and it doesn't really matter if they can control gold/sand/iron cause it can't hurt or even phase Madara in the slightest.

I was expecting something more convincing considering you believe they take this "neg diff" Now I'm saying it. Madara stomps and Kurama isn't even needed, this argument doesn't convince me nor should it convince anyone else that the Kage even win this let alone neg diff.

Im not an ignorant person and i have to say that was quite a post so i cant necessarily argue with that logic. I wasnt sure how they lost but now that someone cared to explain i can see why now

 

[KidGamer65]

Im not an ignorant person and i have to say that was quite a post so i cant necessarily argue with that logic. I wasnt sure how they lost but now that someone cared to explain i can see why now

lmao, glad I could make you see the light.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Madara spanks these children without too much difficulty.

 

[Draphsin]

How? They can't separate Madara and Kurama from each other when it only takes a second to armor PS onto Kurama, not when Kurama has its own methods of offense, they can't deal with (Bijuu Dama) not to mention even if they manage this, they die to PS's sword slashes, which they can't even handle let alone PS Kurama.

Madara needs to summon kurama, then armor it. Gaara can instantly keep some of the kage afloat & muu/onoki are the key to the separation.

As I said, if the kage have info that madara can armor kurama then they will make it a priority to separate the two. Two simultaneous jinton shots can do the trick.

Madara doesnt have clones, its 1 vs 15(ish?) kage level shinobi. A powerful attack wont kill them all, there will be survivors. & since those survivors can all fly one way or another it makes it even harder for kurama to hit them.

Not to mention some incredibly OP combos the kage have shown (onoki/gaara, onoki/A).

PS would never even come out, once Kurama is summoned they die to the first Bijuu Dama.

It would have to, you think kurama can handle that many kage level shinobi? not a chance, a well placed jinton shot obliterates kurama's head...

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara needs to summon kurama, then armor it. Gaara can instantly keep some of the kage afloat & muu/onoki are the key to the separation.

That takes absolutely no time at all, not to mention he doesn't really even need to summon Kurama to take care of these guys, but anyway.

As I said, if the kage have info that madara can armor kurama then they will make it a priority to separate the two. Two simultaneous jinton shots can do the trick.

Jinton has a charge time, for both Mu and Onoki, Kurama simply fires it Bijuu Dama and blows them up.

Madara doesnt have clones, its 1 vs 15(ish?) kage level shinobi. A powerful attack wont kill them all, there will be survivors. & since those survivors can all fly one way or another it makes it even harder for kurama to hit them.

Numbers are irrelevant when he has AoE moves that they can't dodge or tank.

-Like I've said twice now, Basic Bijuu Dama's AoE covers Mountains, and 100% Kurama's was visibly larger. Unless you are telling me they are going to effectively fight Madara from elevations that are well above Mountains which is ridiculous, then they get killed by Bijuu Dama.

-And what do numbers have to do with attacks that cover the whole battlefield? Nothing. If it is strong enough it will kill them, cause the AoE is too large for them to dodge.

Not to mention some incredibly OP combos the kage have shown (onoki/gaara, onoki/A).

How are Gaara and Onoki OP in a combo? The Ay and Onoki combo isn't even relevant here since anything above a Ribcage Susanoo would effortlessly tank their swings let alone Perfect Susanoo once it comes out.

It would have to, you think kurama can handle that many kage level shinobi? not a chance, a well placed jinton shot obliterates kurama's head...

A small Bijuu Dama's charge time is much quicker than Jinton's charge time. Result? The Kage get blown up unless they have a way to defend from it, cause they definitely aren't dodging it.

Even if he kills Kurama, PS would still end them regardless as they can't even handle that, that right there makes your separation plan moot even if they pulled it off.

 

[Draphsin]

That takes absolutely no time at all, not to mention he doesn't really even need to summon Kurama to take care of these guys, but anyway.


Jinton has a charge time, for both Mu and Onoki, Kurama simply fires it Bijuu Dama and blows them up.


Numbers are irrelevant when he has AoE moves that they can't dodge or tank.

-Like I've said twice now, Basic Bijuu Dama's AoE covers Mountains, and 100% Kurama's was visibly larger. Unless you are telling me they are going to effectively fight Madara from elevations that are well above Mountains which is ridiculous, then they get killed by Bijuu Dama.

-And what do numbers have to do with attacks that cover the whole battlefield? Nothing. If it is strong enough it will kill them, cause the AoE is too large for them to dodge.


How are Gaara and Onoki OP in a combo? The Ay and Onoki combo isn't even relevant here since anything above a Ribcage Susanoo would effortlessly tank their swings let alone Perfect Susanoo once it comes out.



A small Bijuu Dama's charge time is much quicker than Jinton's charge time. Result? The Kage get blown up unless they have a way to defend from it, cause they definitely aren't dodging it.

Even if he kills Kurama, PS would still end them regardless as they can't even handle that, that right there makes your separation plan moot even if they pulled it off.

Lol well I'm just going to disagree with this one because I dont wanna debate with you on two topics at once