[Discussion] Atheist response to homosexuality and religion (SERIOUS THREAD)

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

(No flaming whatsoever I beg of you guys)

So I want a response from atheist for a particular question that I've been thinking about.

Where do you think the idea of homosexuality being immoral originates from? Ok we all know that religion was the main opponent against homosexuality for all of human history up till the new millennium. In religion "God" tells his people that homosexuality is immoral and that is the main reason why religion is so against homosexuality. However atheism is founded upon the concept that there is not evidence of there being a god. So by atheists logic there shouldn't have been a god to tell humans that homosexuality is immoral in the first place. So this brings me back to my first question, how did this idea originate if there was no god? And if you can answer me that can you answer this question, how would that be beneficial in leading ppl? Why would it be important in the first place? It's widely known that back in ancient times that homosexuality was not frowned upon and actually there was liberty for it. Again how do you think this concept of immorality came about if there was no god?

 

[Craziie]

If you're not athiest. but.... not religious either.can you still answer >__>

 

[November]

So we need religion to hate something ????

 

[Tingun]

From a impartial standpoint.

In atheism it would be believed that humans wrote the bible. Therefor humans produced all the ideals that are expressed through the new and old testament.

In this case the Idea of anti-homosexuality would most likely be because of the lack of natural occurrence, seeing as the natural case would be a male mating with a female to reproduce.

It should be far to easy to realize that humans naturally detest of things that are different and things that they cannot understand, therefor if suddenly a male wishes to find a male mate or a female wants to find a female mate, it will obviously result in controversy, which would lead to negative views, which would lead to hate, and eventually prosecution.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

If you're not athiest. but.... not religious either.can you still answer >__>

Oops sorry yeah yeah of course


It's for everyone, I ddnt mean to exclude anyone lol.

 

[Filo]

From a impartial standpoint.

In atheism it would be believed that humans wrote the bible. Therefor humans produced all the ideals that are expressed through the new and old testament.

In this case the Idea of anti-homosexuality would most likely be because of the lack of natural occurrence, seeing as the natural case would be a male mating with a female to reproduce.

I agree with this. I guess it just seems immoral to some because it =no babies

 

[Domo Genesis]

It doesn't bother me at all, people can whatever they want with their life as long as they're happy.

It's because man and women were created to re populate and that rule is being broken...but I'm not that informative about the bible so sorry but that's what I've been told.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

So we need religion to hate something ????

What? No did you even read

 

[Joon]

The bible. It all started from the bible.

 

[reizon]

i think homosexuality is not a choice, i cant bring myself to think otherwise..!!

i think people are born homo or straight, and its not a choice...

in case im wrong, i wud like to know why wud they choose to be this way...

i cant bring myself to understand this thing...!!

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

From a impartial standpoint.

In atheism it would be believed that humans wrote the bible. Therefor humans produced all the ideals that are expressed through the new and old testament.

In this case the Idea of anti-homosexuality would most likely be because of the lack of natural occurrence, seeing as the natural case would be a male mating with a female to reproduce.

It should be far to easy to realize that humans naturally detest of things that are different and things that they cannot understand, therefor if suddenly a male wishes to find a male mate or a female wants to find a female mate, it will obviously result in controversy, which would lead to negative views, which would lead to hate, and eventually prosecution.

But in ancient Rome when Alexander was king homosexuality was actually accepted and also in the far east like china and japan

 

[reizon]

we need a JAMES BOND in this thread...

he is just the kind of guy for all these serious threads..

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

The bible. It all started from the bible.

Well if you believe in God then yes it did start with the bible but if you don't then it started with an idea. All I'm trying to do is wrap my head around why someone thought that idea.

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

But in ancient Rome when Alexander was king homosexuality was actually accepted and also in the far east like china and japan

Umm Alexander was not the King of Rome.....
He was the King of Macedonia and Greece, completely different country.

 

[Tingun]

But in ancient Rome when Alexander was king homosexuality was actually accepted and also in the far east like china and japan

From a impartial standpoint. [From a perspective of general atheism]

(From the assumption that god is a falsity) These are not Christain, Jewish or Islamic Cultures, so they're beliefs would differ from those who created the bible.

Even within biblical texts many pagan nations were mentioned, such nations did not follow the beliefs of those who created the bible.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

I agree with this. I guess it just seems immoral to some because it =no babies

No cause homosexuality was already accepted in many nations in ancient times

 

[Craziie]

I'll answer anyways.


I think the idea of homosexuality comes from by the fact being don't see it being normal. To males being together and to females together, doesn't seem to be right. Being that "normal" sexuality, is a man and woman.
Back then, men use to do it with eachother all the time. Use to have little *** fests but I won't go into that because I'm already containing my pervert thoughts.

And now I think the idea of there being no god, has been around as long religion itself, and that noone really expressed it because .... maybe they feared. They would get burned alive or hunged. I mean jews had a hard time trying to strive. It would've probably been way worse. Atheism usually results from someone not believing in their religion because they went in despair or had a hard time in life, and thought of help for a god. But none was recieved.Well the stories I have heard from atheist I encountered, ofcourse. My assumption, could be completely wrong, but Im just basing it off the knowledge I have recieved from the ones I have encountered, which have been a quite a lot. Internet roams of them. XD

 

[Hollow9tailsEye]

From a impartial standpoint.

In atheism it would be believed that humans wrote the bible. Therefor humans produced all the ideals that are expressed through the new and old testament.

In this case the Idea of anti-homosexuality would most likely be because of the lack of natural occurrence, seeing as the natural case would be a male mating with a female to reproduce.

It should be far to easy to realize that humans naturally detest of things that are different and things that they cannot understand, therefor if suddenly a male wishes to find a male mate or a female wants to find a female mate, it will obviously result in controversy, which would lead to negative views, which would lead to hate, and eventually prosecution.

I agree with this. I guess it just seems immoral to some because it =no babies

^Couldnt agree more this is basically why. Like another member said I don't mind what they do as long as they are happy, there is no reason for me to hate something thats not doing direct harm to myself.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Umm Alexander was not the King of Rome.....
He was the King of Macedonia and Greece, completely different country.

ha yeah I can't believe I put rome lol I did mean greece btw lol

 

[November]

What? No did you even read

yes, i did.
All i want to say is people hate/dislike something because they have their reasons.
Religion is just a part of that reasons and sometimes they don't need religion to hate/dislike something because they have other reasons.