Sasori vs Kakuzu

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Crossroads, let this be our debate matchup >>>

 

[Gakido]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Lol at that last statement, the only thing in the thread monsters is the heart itself,which is behind the mask and covered by threads, its not getting simply scratched, Sasori would have to completely take it out,

Sorry, but

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Anyways the hearts can simply fly over ISWO

They would already have to be over the point of origin. Which is beyond unlikely.

however a more plausible counter is this, Kakuzu's hearts can dig underground,

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A hand and the full hearts themselfs are very diffrent creatures. The wouldn't even have proper apendages to dig.

Notice how that was a heart and some threads, which is all the monsters are as well.... so its crazy to say they can not, now You'll probably bring up that "Wo digs into the ground" Which is correct, however it doesn't go far and Kakuzu is still on the surface and can send the hearts deeper when he realizes its going to pierce through the ground a bit, and then he could even Take out the 3rd puppet with a surprise Raiton attack that can rip through the ground, and bisect the third in an instant, without him even knowing...

Already unlikely that the hearts can make it underground. Even so,

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[lel] Kakuzu won't be staging any surprise attacks or saving his hearts.

Dome like structure which then means he can't see anything? Why do all you Sasori supporters use this, you do realize his magnetic force would be so much weaker right? As it would only be flowing out the hole, as the dome would prohibit any movement of the force otherwise, not only that but once he creates a hole for sight,

Which is why I suggested flight instead.

Kakuzu's raiton can rip right through it

Based on what when

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couldn't even scratch it.

or even Kakuzu's Katon which is a game ender as it starts off as a small fire-ball then explodes into a massive firestorm, and if it were too go off in such a small space, well nothing but ashes would remain (can post DB scans if required)

Avoided Via flight or Satetsu tanks it.

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

I read that fight already/

Then I hope you know what C2 explosives would do underwater since they would be twice as powerful.

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

No. Samehada is not absorbing that amount of chakra multiple times, as the limit for Samehada is a 6tails cloak worth.

And your wrong with the flame thing. For some reason, the blasts are regular or even amplified when underwater for some reason.

And this was proven when?

During the three tails fight? Notice how nothing was burned on the Bijuu, the force of the blast remains however not the flame, Kisame can tank and heal from a force no biggie

 

[Penguin]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

And this was proven when?

During the three tails fight? Notice how nothing was burned on the Bijuu, the force of the blast remains however not the flame, Kisame can tank and heal from a force no biggie

Killer B fight.

No. When Deidara fought that big nozed Tsuchikage. I am talking about a C3 underwater. It will blow Kisame too pieces.

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

And this was proven when?

During the three tails fight? Notice how nothing was burned on the Bijuu, the force of the blast remains however not the flame, Kisame can tank and heal from a force no biggie

Eh Zexion.. Explosions are more powerful underwater since they create shockwaves which can rip Kisame apart. A shockwave isn't chakra based. Kisame can't absorb it. This is why everyone says that Deidara is a bad match up for Kisame.

Killer B fight.

No. When Deidara fought that big nozed Tsuchikage. I am talking about a C3 underwater. It will blow Kisame too pieces.

@Bold. That happened to be a C1 explosive. Not a C3 explosive. Bombs are more powerful underwater and that's why it was so powerful.

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Sorry, but

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What that proves that Kakuzu bleeds but not the hearts :| What logic is this? They are a heart and some threads, no lungs, veins or anything

They would already have to be over the point of origin. Which is beyond unlikely.

Not really, i mean Kakuzu really should have his hearts flying more often, .... but whatever they can go underground still

A hand and the full hearts themselfs are very diffrent creatures. The wouldn't even have proper apendages to dig.

Oh god, you actually think the hand was the thing that dug through the earth so fast? Obviously it was the threads, which the hearts are made of :|

Already unlikely that the hearts can make it underground. Even so,

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[lel] Kakuzu won't be staging any surprise attacks or saving his hearts.

Is that World order? Which is what i was countering No its not, and It would take time for Sasori to form that again when all of the IS is separated and dug into the ground, in that time an attack could easily be implemented

Which is why I suggested flight instead.

Which is just as futile ,

Based on what when

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couldn't even scratch it.

I meant it would penetrate the hole my man

Avoided Via flight or Satetsu tanks it.

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So he's tanking his wooden body and core being turned into ash? lol logic ...

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Eh Zexion.. Explosions are more powerful underwater since they create shockwaves which can rip Kisame apart. A shockwave isn't chakra based. Kisame can't absorb it. This is why everyone says that Deidara is a bad match up for Kisame.



@Bold. That happened to be a C1 explosive. Not a C3 explosive. Bombs are more powerful underwater and that's why it was so powerful.

Shockwaves don't rip people apart, unless your Madara, ..... it would Blow Kisame back which is nothing ....lmao

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Shockwaves don't rip people apart, unless your Madara, ..... it would Blow Kisame back which is nothing ....lmao

A shockwave from a C1 bomb was able to flip a huge turtle island. Do you really believe Kisame can survive that shockwave? Not likely at all. C2 or C3 shockwaves = GG Kisame? Indeed.

 

[Gakido]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

What that proves that Kakuzu bleeds but not the hearts :| What logic is this? They are a heart and some threads, no lungs, veins or anything

Then how do suggest that he goes on living without such a thing? When his hearts are in his body they are connected to him. Other organs don't matter.

Not really, i mean Kakuzu really should have his hearts flying more often, .... but whatever they can go underground still

They wouldn't be up that high [lel] if they're fighting Sasori. That makes no sense.

Not really. Fingers are kind of a neccesity.

Oh god, you actually think the hand was the thing that dug through the earth so fast? Obviously it was the threads, which the hearts are made of :|

Yeah :| since its kinda the first phucking thing that came out of the ground and Naruto did something similar without threads.

Is that World order? Which is what i was countering No its not, and It would take time for Sasori to form that again when all of the IS is separated and dug into the ground, in that time an attack could easily be implemented

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Which is just as futile

Not really :|

I meant it would penetrate the hole my man

Hole closes.... or flight. **** the dome.

So he's tanking his wooden body and core being turned into ash? lol logic ...

Lol reading. Clearly says Satetsu.

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

A shockwave from a C1 bomb was able to flip a huge turtle island. Do you really believe Kisame can survive that shockwave? Not likely at all. C2 or C3 shockwaves = GG Kisame? Indeed.

Scan? ( i know it happened just want to see something)

As i'm pretty sure it could of just aggravated the turtle, causing it too flip ....

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Then how do suggest that he goes on living without such a thing? When his hearts are in his body they are connected to him. Other organs don't matter.

What are you saying? god really not in the mood to explain this, takes hours..

EGF is a forbidden technique, FT's defy the laws of Human Logic, Kakuzu's insides are clearly made up of threads

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He has no lungs, in his body,

As by all logic Kakashi should of pierced right through a lung ...

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Yet he lived just fine, with a hole in his chest

He also lives without a spine

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Basically common logic doesn't come in to play with Kakuzu

They wouldn't be up that high [lel] if they're fighting Sasori. That makes no sense.

Why not, did you not say Sasori would be using flight himself?

Not really. Fingers are kind of a neccesity.

..... Not really, i mean they dig through flesh and bone well enough on their own

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which we all know Fingers can't do

Yeah :| since its kinda the first phucking thing that came out of the ground and Naruto did something similar without threads.

Lol oh god, so your saying Kakuzu can simply dig his way underground in the matter of seconds? it was clearly the threads bro, they pierce and you can see the threads are errecting in an opposite direction as the hand itself, (to the right) ,

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, meaning they dug through the hole, Btw they all have hands, :| So either way they can dig rather easily

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It clearly is much more shallow then the other one :|

Not really :|

Yes, the hearts can fly as well, and basically surround Sasori and then fire the jutsu, ending him one way or another,

Hole closes.... or flight. **** the dome.

Hole closes and the magnetic force is completely cut off, not to mention he can't see...

Lol reading. Clearly says Satetsu.

Satetsu which can't react in time, with such a crude control? .....Ya ok

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Scan? ( i know it happened just want to see something)

As i'm pretty sure it could of just aggravated the turtle, causing it too flip ....

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the whole giant turtle island

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Furthermore look at this:

Water, however, is often described as incompressible. Technically, it can compress, but it takes a massive amount of pressure to apply a small amount of compression. This means that in an underwater explosion, the surrounding water doesn't absorb the pressure like air does, but moves with it. An underwater explosion doesn't propel objects through the water nearly as far as a surface explosion throws shrapnel because of the drag water exerts on objects. However, an underwater explosion transmits pressure with greater intensity over a longer distance.

If you stood outside of shrapnel range for an exploding hand grenade, you'd likely remain unharmed. If you stood at the same range to an underwater explosion, the pressure wave would probably kill you [source: Landsberg]. When the wave reached your skin, it would pass through you. After all, little of its power would be reflected because your body's density is similar to that of the water. The wave would hit the air-filled pockets of your body and instantly compress the gases there, possibly resulting in blocked blood vessels, ruptured lungs, torn internal tissues and even brain hemorrhaging. Waves hitting the surface of the water or the bottom of the pool would bounce back, inflicting even more damage.

With Kisame being underwater, as soon as Deidara blows up a bomb in the same water Kisame is in, he will die.

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

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the whole giant turtle island

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Furthermore look at this:


With Kisame being underwater, as soon as Deidara blows up a bomb in the same water Kisame is in, he will die.

Lol what makes you think it's a c1? ....It clearly has the size of a C2

Also Kisame's Durability >>>>>>Human's ..... but alright cool didn't know that

 

[Prince Charles]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

I think some people are overlooking the speed and heights the masks can go at.

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Those scans are pretty self explanatory U_U

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Lol what makes you think it's a c1? ....It clearly has the size of a C2

Also Kisame's Durability >>>>>>Human's ..... but alright cool didn't know that

Not likely since Deidara hasn't shown the ability to make different shapes out of the C2.


Kisame's durability is > Human's, but the pressure caused by the explosion will kill him since it won't take effect on his skin or anything... It will take effect on Kisame's organs themselves and the durability of his organs such as the brain isn't really better than a normal human's.

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

I think some people are overlooking the speed and heights the masks can go at.

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Those scans are pretty self explanatory U_U

Or as my man pointed out a while ago there is this,

Notice how Kakuzu's mask was here to fire the jutsu,

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Yet then immediately returned to Kakuzu's side

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[Zexion~]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Not likely since Deidara hasn't shown the ability to make different shapes out of the C2.


Kisame's durability is > Human's, but the pressure caused by the explosion will kill him since it won't take effect on his skin or anything... It will take effect on Kisame's organs themselves and the durability of his organs such as the brain isn't really better than a normal human's.

Healing?

And not really bro, he created multiple forms of his C2 dragon bullets,

But anyways don't really want to debate two things atm.

 

[Shura]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

Or as my man pointed out a while ago there is this,

Notice how Kakuzu's mask was here to fire the jutsu,

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Yet then immediately returned to Kakuzu's side

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I take it that you agree with me that Deidara beats Kisame now since Kisame cannot absorb the pressure caused by the explosions? (._. )

 

[Prince Charles]

Re: Sasori vs Kakuzu #AC #Zexion #PrinceCharles>Bogard #Yea,AnotherAkatsukiMemberAC

What am I reading here? A shockwave killing kisame? lml