[VS] Itachi vs Tobirama
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It differs from ninjutsu but chakra is still required to perform genjutsu. This indicates that any Sharingan technique requires a build up of chakra.
Also, from what we've seen, Nagato is an extremely accomplished sensor and Tobirama has sensory feats of his level.
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Oh, freaking please.
Not all sensors are equal. Tobirama was able to track Hashirama without Hashirama noticing, he was able to tell Oro was filled with Hashi's DNA and could distinguish Madara's chakra from half the world away.
No way in hell him and Shee can be compared, not to mention this is a 1v1 whereas Shee was paying attention to finding Karin and the rest of TAKA.
You use Chakra but do not focus it in your eye to cast the illusion. One needs to focus Chakra in his eye to create a flame at the point he aims for. Genjutsu are working otherwise. Once you look into the Sharingan, you are caught in a Genjutsu. That would imply that the user is always focusing Chakra in his eye to be prepared to cast a Genjutsu on the victim in the case he builds eye contact. The Sharingan is described as the hypnotic eye. If you look at it you are caught in a Genjutsu. Just then the chakra consumption starts to maintain the Genjutsu. You do not aim for a specific spot, hence are not focusing the Chakra in your eye but spend chakra to create and maintain the illusion and manipulate the victims senses.
Shee is a skilled Sensor as well but didn't sense enything from Sasuke until he was caught in the Genjutsu.
And who tells it's a honorable feat to sense the super powerful cells of his brother in another being? Or that he sensed Madara's chakra on a long distance when Minato sensed Naruto's (not particularly Kyuubi's) chakra? And btw Hashirama sensed his cells in Orochimaru's cells as well and mentioned it even before Tobirama.
So you see what you talk about is bullshit. Tobirama didn't show sensor skills which would dwarf the others.
Why talking with such a safety when saying Genjutsu usage can be sensed through any chakra focusing in the users eye?
All you told is fanfiction. So either post a scan where your "theory" is backed up with canon material or leave the thread.
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I think you're looking at this the wrong way; it's not that the opponent has to look into Itachi's eyes for the genjutsu to activate instead Itachi has to look into his opponent's eyes. Constantly maintaining genjutsu would be severely chakra taxing and it's completely fanfiction. However, it's been stated that maintaining a Sharingan barely uses any chakra. If what you said was the case then Itachi would be constantly exhausted. It also doesn't make sense why Itachi becomes exhausted after using the genjutsu when he's constantly maintaining a genjutsu; his chakra is consumed after using Tsukyomi and that suggests he activates the genjutsu when he looks into his opponent's eyes, not the other way around.
Conclusion: From what I believe, Itachi has to build-up chakra while establishing an eye connection with his opponent. His genjutsu isn't always prepared since it'd constantly consume a high amount of chakra.
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To say it more simply, Genjutsu is activated when eye contact was made. So it makes no sense for me that he focuses chakra in his eye to cast the Genjutsu. You do not aim Genjutsu for a spot like you aim Amaterasu (which consists of chakra) for a spot. He uses chakra to create the illusion. What the victim has to do is to make eye contact with him.
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But a build-up of chakra is required.
Chakra isn't always there; to use techniques shinobi have to mould chakra.
Requiring eye contact does mean it has to aim for a specific spot but in this case, there is no physical pain, just mental pain which makes it different to Amaterasu.
@Bogard... STOP
lol Raikage was caught in a genjutsu by madara's clone. Tsuky wasn't even used too since madara most definitely does not
have it.Ahhhhh the counters to genjutsu from itachi are so vague it really is annoying to see. "Too fast... knows not to look"
... Its as if they forget that itachi's specialty is getting his opponents caught into his illusions.
lol Raikage was caught in a genjutsu by madara's clone. Tsuky wasn't even used too since madara most definitely does not
have it.Ahhhhh the counters to genjutsu from itachi are so vague it really is annoying to see. "Too fast... knows not to look"
... Its as if they forget that itachi's specialty is getting his opponents caught into his illusions.
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Pretty sure that Genjutsu is caused by projecting your chakra to the target, Itachi does this via Sharingan so that is why he does build chakra up in his eye to use Ocular Genjutsu.
After he was distracted by Tsunade coughing up blood and after the clone snatched him up with Susanoo.
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SM Naruto could tell Kakashi was not in a village. His sensing is top class.
Tobirama could tell Madara was half the world away. His sensing is superior even to SM Naruto's.
Shee couldn't tell Sasuke was using genjutsu.
Cut the crap. If you think all sensors are on the same level you must be dumb.
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He needed a distraction and he needed Ay to be restrained to do so, using that instance doesn't help prove your point.
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Nonetheless, still shows how time and time again ninjas who have info on the sharingan fail to follow precautions on
avoiding genjutsu. Eye-contact is natural, especially w/tobiramas case. evident with tobirama looking obito straight on, in
numerous occasions, whilst knowing he has the sharingan.
Replace madara with itachi in that scenario and raikage would have been finished with tsuky.
Honestly no knowledge on itachi's special set of techniques is deadly to anyone. Dusk crow genjutsu gg=D
Nonetheless, still shows how time and time again ninjas who have info on the sharingan fail to follow precautions on
avoiding genjutsu. Eye-contact is natural, especially w/tobiramas case. evident with tobirama looking obito straight on, in
numerous occasions, whilst knowing he has the sharingan.
Replace madara with itachi in that scenario and raikage would have been finished with tsuky.
Honestly no knowledge on itachi's special set of techniques is deadly to anyone. Dusk crow genjutsu gg=D
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Ay was clearly doing so correctly until he was distracted and restrained, so again, this isn't helping your prove your point.
Really now? You are going to need some proof he made eye contact with Obito and vice versa. Looking at someone doesn't mean you are making eye contact with them, not one bit.
Replace Madara with Itachi and that scenario never would have happened, so again, you have no point there.
lmao @ you if you believe a Dusk Crow Genjutsu is going to end this.