Sasori Exploits #2

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

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Sasori decides on how fast the Satetsu will be. And just because Sasori didn't fly or create Satetsu no Yoroi in the manga doesn't mean that Sasori cannot do it. It's basically like saying that Kakuzu cannot fly since we haven't seen him fly in the manga and yet we know that he can fly by standing on one of his Masks.



Eh, Sasori can increase the speed of the Satetsu as much as he wants so that basically does make him the fastest aerial shinobi.

I doubt the masks can carry his weight. They were just a mass of dark matter. Who can tell whether or not it can even lift anything?
Also, If Sasori could just shield himself and his Kazekage. Why didn't he? It would have been smart to just do it from the get go. And block everything.

Sasori used the kazekage the way he knew how. I doubt that Sasori can create a Iron bird, and out Manuever Sai, Deidara, Or Onooki..
Not once did it ever imply that Sasori could FLY, or even make the sand break the sound barrier, otherwise, wouldnt all of his Iron Sand attack break the sound barrier, and not just that ONE example of the extra light needles?

 

[Fodder#4]

Ye' know.. Kisame exploits never got this much attention...

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[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Ye' know.. Kisame exploits never got this much attention...

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Especially Your's.

 

[Fodder#4]

Especially Your's.

...Way to make me feel good about myself bud'....

At least mine wasn't deleted.

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[XxLapizxLazulixX]

And if Sasori's Iron Sand could fly, and break the sound barrier,
then that would make him a mix of Deidara, Gaara, and himself...there's no way he should have been defeated, he even stated that he was struggling against Chiyo and Sakura. But the way you make it seem, he should have been able to defeat them in minutes, heck, should be able to defeat most ninja in seconds. Which in Manga reality, it is NOT the case.

 

[Mellanoma]

And if Sasori's Iron Sand could fly, and break the sound barrier,
then that would make him a mix of Deidara, Gaara, and himself...there's no way he should have been defeated, he even stated that he was struggling against Chiyo and Sakura. But the way you make it seem, he should have been able to defeat them in minutes, heck, should be able to defeat most ninja in seconds. Which in Manga reality, it is NOT the case.

only person to defeat someone in seconds of true worth was Itachi... he beat kakashi in 1 second

 

[Shura]

I doubt the masks can carry his weight. They were just a mass of dark matter. Who can tell whether or not it can even lift anything?
Also, If Sasori could just shield himself and his Kazekage. Why didn't he? It would have been smart to just do it from the get go. And block everything.

Sasori used the kazekage the way he knew how. I doubt that Sasori can create a Iron bird, and out Manuever Sai, Deidara, Or Onooki..
Not once did it ever imply that Sasori could FLY, or even make the sand break the sound barrier, otherwise, wouldnt all of his Iron Sand attack break the sound barrier, and not just that ONE example of the extra light needles?

Eh, Satetsu no Yoroi isn't really a defense that could shield Sakura's punches. And Sasori didn't take them seriously until they destroyed his Sandaime Puppet. He thought of them as weak. Again, Sasori can make any shape out of the Satetsu for any situation. He can make Satetsu Birds if he wants.

List of people that can beat Sasori

Hashirama
Itachi
Madara
Kabuto
Sasuke
Naruto
Chiyo/Sakura
Kakuza
3rd Raikage
4th Raikage
Tobirama
Kisame
Nagato
Kakashi
list goes on.....

Please go away. This isn't a Sasori > someone thread. :|

That's clearly relative to the Satestu "Pellets" being shot, not a huge collective construct such as Sasori, the KazeKage and their fan-fiction platform all together.

As an object's mass increases, a greater force is required in order for it to accelerate. I may have read it wrong but it seems you're trying to infer that Sasori himself can break the sound barrier. Considering Sakura's own punch was able to separate Sasori's body parts I don't see any evidence to support the idea that his body will withstand such a burst in speed, at the very least his chakra strings won't endure it.

The pellets are moved with the same thing the other Satetsu attacks are moved with; Magnetic Forces. So this doesn't apply only to the pellets. It applies to all Satetsu techniques due to the being moved with the same thing that the pellets are moved with.

And Sasori would be able to endure it due to the fact that he managed to take a direct hit from a girl that destroyed a giant boulder. As for the Chakra Strings, they actually aren't that weak since one Chakra String was able to hold a whole Puppet and Sasori could make sudden movements with it without it breaking. Even if the Chakra String gets cut off, it doesn't matter since Sasori would reconnect them instantly since even Kankuro was able to do such a thing. [

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And if Sasori's Iron Sand could fly, and break the sound barrier,
then that would make him a mix of Deidara, Gaara, and himself...there's no way he should have been defeated, he even stated that he was struggling against Chiyo and Sakura. But the way you make it seem, he should have been able to defeat them in minutes, heck, should be able to defeat most ninja in seconds. Which in Manga reality, it is NOT the case.

It's stated in the manga that Sasori can make any shape for any situation. Sasori didn't take Sakura nor Chiyo seriously until they destroyed Sasori's Sandaime. Not to mention that Satetsu Blocks already were flying and Sasori already did create Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime in the Manga. And it's not like he could fly in a cave. Sasori is a mix of Deidara, Gaara and himself if you want to put it that way.

only person to defeat someone in seconds of true worth was Itachi... he beat kakashi in 1 second

Go to an Itachi thread. I don't care about him. :|

 

[Owarij]

Very nice thread,

 

[Kαmi]

So are these exploits just feats that Sasori are capable of that people don't realize? I agree with every bit, including from the first thread but IMO, the sand armor doesn't seem like something Sasori would do. I agree he's capable of it as you have easily proven and made clear, but it just doesn't seem like his style of fighting to do something like that. :erm:

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Eh, Satetsu no Yoroi isn't really a defense that could shield Sakura's punches. And Sasori didn't take them seriously until they destroyed his Sandaime Puppet. He thought of them as weak. Again, Sasori can make any shape out of the Satetsu for any situation. He can make Satetsu Birds if he wants.



Please go away. This isn't a Sasori > someone thread. :|



The pellets are moved with the same thing the other Satetsu attacks are moved with; Magnetic Forces. So this doesn't apply only to the pellets. It applies to all Satetsu techniques due to the being moved with the same thing that the pellets are moved with.

And Sasori would be able to endure it due to the fact that he managed to take a direct hit from a girl that destroyed a giant boulder. As for the Chakra Strings, they actually aren't that weak since one Chakra String was able to hold a whole Puppet and Sasori could make sudden movements with it without it breaking. Even if the Chakra String gets cut off, it doesn't matter since Sasori would reconnect them instantly since even Kankuro was able to do such a thing. [

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Of course; but the thing is that, like I said; an object with greater mass requires a greater force to move it, one can wank that Databooklet scan and try to infer that Sasori can move at the speed of light if he so chooses, which obviously isn't the case. The only reason the pellets were able to attain such a speed was due to their small size, and that's it. thé object's mass would incur a greater air resistance making it near impossible to break the sound barrier (Terminal velocity?)

No, Sasori is not withstanding breaking the sound barrier; I don't know the specifics but travelling at such a speed would tear a normal man's arms off. And if Sasori's puppet were to survive (Highly unlikely.), the fall from the sky would separate it from Sasori.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Only thing I see plausible is possible Iron defense..but as for everything else..sorry,

The data book said that Tsukoyomi and Amaterasu were the requirements for Susanoo. Madara has never shown the ablility, nor has it ever been implied that he can use either technique, yet, he can create Susanoo.

It also said Gaara's defense was absolute, yet has been broken and foiled on numerous occasion.

I think that this is one of those statements in which the databook used certain words loosely, and now fans take advantage of those and use those misused words to their advantage.

All I see is speculation. :/ There's no solid evidence of your claims.

 

[Shura]

Only thing I see plausible is possible Iron defense..but as for everything else..sorry,

The data book said that Tsukoyomi and Amaterasu were the requirements for Susanoo. Madara has never shown the ablility, nor has it ever been implied that he can use either technique, yet, he can create Susanoo.

It also said Gaara's defense was absolute, yet has been broken and foiled on numerous occasion.

I think that this is one of those statements in which the databook used certain words loosely, and now fans take advantage of those and use those misused words to their advantage.

All I see is speculation. :/ There's no solid evidence of your claims.

Not only was it stated in the databook that Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu for any situation, it was also stated that he can do so in the manga as well so this isn't speculation. And Satetsu already did fly in the manga. Sorry. No speculation here.

Of course; but the thing is that, like I said; an object with greater mass requires a greater force to move it, one can wank that Databooklet scan and try to infer that Sasori can move at the speed of light if he so chooses, which obviously isn't the case. The only reason the pellets were able to attain such a speed was due to their small size, and that's it. thé object's mass would incur a greater air resistance making it near impossible to break the sound barrier (Terminal velocity?)

Hmmm.. It can be argued that he cannot break the Sound Barrier with the bigger Satetsu attacks, but let's just leave it at ''Satetsu is extremely fast'' since I have a feeling that we won't agree on this one. >_>

No, Sasori is not withstanding breaking the sound barrier; I don't know the specifics but travelling at such a speed would tear a normal man's arms off. And if Sasori's puppet were to survive (Highly unlikely.), the fall from the sky would separate it from Sasori.

Eh, a normal man's arm, yes, but Sasori's body is far more durable. Sakura's punch would completely crush a man's arm while it didn't manage to crush Sasori.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Not only was it stated in the databook that Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu for any situation, it was also stated that he can do so in the manga as well so this isn't speculation. And Satetsu already did fly in the manga. Sorry. No speculation here.



Hmmm.. It can be argued that he cannot break the Sound Barrier with the bigger Satetsu attacks, but let's just leave it at ''Satetsu is extremely fast'' since I have a feeling that we won't agree on this one. >_>



h, a normal man's arm, yes, but Sasori's body is far more durable. Sakura's punch would completely crush a man's arm while it didn't manage to crush Sasori.

I appreciate the effort you've made on the thread but there's no evidence to suggest he'd be even competent in arial combat, if the construct Sasori's on is going at a fast speed by all logic the Third Kazekage's just gonna slam back into Sasori himself.

I was being simplistic, the actual force would be far greater. A normal man's arm would've crumbled far before that.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

As I said, I can see the Iron Sand defense being possible since it is hard, and he can shape it. But him attacking at the speed of sound with it, and him deserving the title of "fastest airel shinobi" and giving him feats such as being able to be faster than Gaara, Deidara, or Oonoki, and any other ariel ninja, when nowhere has it ever been illustrated, demostrated, or implied in any media of Naruto that sasori is capable of ariel combat, then yes, it is all speculation.

He can make his puppets hover in the air like he did with the kazekage, and his other 100 puppets. But their range was limited to his chakra strings. Otherwise, there's no proof.

 

[Shura]

I appreciate the effort you've made on the thread but there's no evidence to suggest he'd be even competent in arial combat, if the construct Sasori's on is going at a fast speed by all logic the Third Kazekage's just gonna slam back into Sasori himself.

I was being simplistic, the actual force would be far greater. A normal man's arm would've crumbled far before that.

He doesn't really need to be that fast honestly. All he requires is a Satetsu Bird and then he can make it a little bit faster than Deidara's C1 bird which then makes him kinda the fastest aerial fighter since Deidara and Ohnoki are basically faster than the others. And thanks. ^_^

As I said, I can see the Iron Sand defense being possible since it is hard, and he can shape it. But him attacking at the speed of sound with it, and him deserving the title of "fastest airel shinobi" and giving him feats such as being able to be faster than Gaara, Deidara, or Oonoki, and any other ariel ninja, when nowhere has it ever been illustrated, demostrated, or implied in any media of Naruto, then yes, it is all speculation.

Databook is cannon. No matter how you look at it. It's written by Kishi. If it states that Sasori decides on speed of the Satetsu then yes, he decides on the speed of Satetsu.

 

[Fodder#4]

Kisame can fly too....

 

[Shura]

Kisame can fly too....

Okay.. Good for Kisame. (._. )

 

[AGoodBoy]

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Satetsu no Yoroi | Exploit #3:

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Satetsu no Yoroi

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Now to start off, what do I mean by ''Satetsu no Yoroi''? Simple. I mean that Sasori can do the same thing Gaara does with his normal Sand. He can basically copy Gaara's Suna no Yoroi [

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] with his Satetsu since as we know Sasori can make any shape out of the Satetsu he wants [

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], including a Satetsu no Yoroi. To understand how the technique works, let's look at it's description.



Looking at the weaknesses of the Sand no Yoroi we could conclude that if Sasori uses a Satetsu no Yoroi, it will gain the same exact weaknesses. However, unlike Gaara, Sasori's own body backs up for these weaknesses. The Satetsu no Yoroi may be heavy and need a lot of Chakra, but Sasori is a puppet so he won't have any stamina problems nor will he have any probably moving with the Satetsu no Yoroi due to the fact that he is a Puppet so weight won't effect his body that much. Now how does the Satetsu no Yoroi help Sasori in battle and why would he wear Satetsu no Yoroi? Simple. Satetsu no Yoroi can serve as an another shield if someone happens to come close to Sasori's body or if against certain opponents such as Minato and Itachi, he won't be in danger that much since Minato wouldn't be able to tag him due to the Satetsu no Yoroi that he could just shed and against Itachi if Amaterasu hits him, he can just shed that layer of Satetsu and put up a new one. Also the Satetsu no Yoroi would to it's job defending his core. And as for the reason why would he wear a Satetsu no Yoroi; Well if Sasori decides that the opponent he is fighting against is dangerous there is no doubt that Sasori would put up Satetsu no Yoroi since as stated in the Databook, Sasori prefers to fight in a position where he is safe [

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] and Satetsu no Yoroi will furthermore secure his safety.

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Basically this will greatly improve the defenses of Sasori himself and his core. Gaara was able to tank a direct hit from Lee and all that hit managed to do was crack Gaara's Suna no Yoroi while Gaara himself didn't recieve any damage at all. [

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] That's not all. Gaara was even able to tank a hit from Lee's foot with Suna no Yoroi which left only a scratch on it. [

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] Not to mention that in Part Two, Gaara's Suna no Yoroi was able to tank a direct hit from Deidara's C1 bombs even thought Gaara fell unconcious. [

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] Considering that Satetsu is harder than normal Sand [

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Keep in mind that Sasori can use Satetsu no Yoroi to defend his Sandaime Kazekage Puppet as well and since he is a Puppet, he won't have any Chakra problems. Not to mention that this would be a good defense for his core.

Sasori's Aerial Capabilities | Exploit #4:

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Sasori's Aerial Capabilities

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Althought this shouldn't be doubted anymore, some people still believe that Sasori can't fly so I might as well make this exploit. As we know, Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu that he desires. [

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] Sasori even created Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime Kazekage. All Sasori has to do here is create a Satetsu Block, stand on it and fly off. Or he can perhaps make a Satetsu Bird similiar to Deidara's C1 Bird. [

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As stated above, the Satetsu can be changed into any form that can suit the situation. If Sasori up against flying opponents or if he is up against someone who is dangerous on the ground, Sasori will without a doubt create a Satetsu Bird or some other Satetsu shape and fly off. Now since I have established how Sasori can fly, the only thing that is left is to establish how fast would Sasori be exactly. In all honesty, in the air, Sasori would be faster than any other aerial shinobi we have seen in the manga up until now. The ones that are extremely fast in air are without a doubt Deidara and Ohnoki so even Aktsuchi, who was flying, couldn't keep up with them at all. [

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] However Sasori is faster than both of them. It has been stated that Sasori is the one who decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's magnetism. [

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] Nothing stops him from making Satetsu even faster. Not to mention that in the manga, Sasori's Satetsu has already shown the speed that could break the sound wall.

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In the end, no one will prove to be as fast as Sasori when it comes to aerial combat.

Sasori never broke the sound barrier with saitetsu. Stop this nonsense lie already, jesus christ.

 

[Shura]

Sasori never broke the sound barrier with saitetsu. Stop this nonsense lie already, jesus christ.

If it makes you happy, fine he didn't. It doesn't matter really.

 

[Strict]

Sasori is one of my favorites. But Satetsu no Yoroi? I'm skeptic.. rather fanfiction. Why wouldn't Sasori use the sand in such defensive meanings? If not hardened, it is not protecting you. If hardened, it takes your whole mobility. The Suna no Yoroi is a specific Jutsu that creates a layer of sand on your body and costs a lot of chakra. He isn't simply shaping the iron sand into a solid armor and attacking mobile. If anything, he uses the iron sand as a shield like the sand which surrounds Gaara.

And... a Satetsu bird?

We don't wanna go to far with our fanfiction, do we?