Establishing Why Preta Path Can Absorb TBB Including Juubi's [Full Version]

[KidGamer65]

Madara will have to take in more black chakra than white constantly, because if the ratio changes, 8:2, it will explode. I personally don't think he can absorb something that large with a perfect ratio, and you believe he can. Honestly neither of us is right, nor is the other wrong. We've reached an impasse simply because we can't actually provide proof for either of our claims. Hopefully you agree.

Like I said. Why would he have to take in more black chakra than white chakra when they are mixed together as 1 form? Bijuu Dama. By taking in Bijuu Dama he is taking in both Black and White Chakra at equal amounts, as that is what Bijuu Dama. There is no reason to believe absorption would just cause him to absorb more of one type of chakra than the other, no reason at all.

The only factor size would have is the length it'd take to absorb the Bijuu Dama. If I were to believe Preta can't absorb Bijuu Dama, it'd be because of DemonicAvenger's post, not this.

 

[raziel777]

Okay, so obviously Rasengan took some

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to absorb, and is small in size when comparing it to the

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.

Madara wouldn't be able to absorb the entire blast before he dies from the impact.

I've been proving you wrong left and right on every topic we discuss, you just ignore it because your wank is over 9000, clearly.

And are we talking about the databook that says

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is omnipotent..?

Are we talking about the databook that says

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are on the same level, when they clearly are

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..?

Please, you need to step your debate game up. You make this too easy, son.

You are not worthy of dance.

It's not about the current argument but.... How do you know Orochimaru isn't very skilled at genjutsu ? Just because he doesn't have sharingans doesn't mean he can't be great at it. The mark of great genjutsu users is intelligence. And Oro has plenty of that.

Think of it like that. You (itachi) = 185 IQ (genjutsu), Me (orochimaru) = 180 IQ (genjutsu). We can both score 5/5 while you are better than me at genjutsu.

 

[Bronze]

What you're not understanding is, the Juubidama will explode before Madara even knows what's happening. His only hope is to throw up Preta Path and put his head between his two legs and pray.

And not exactly, I'm saying the databook just shouldn't be used to such a literal point when it's proven to have many flaws.


Fodder debater..? You're just a retaliation insulter. You honestly have nothing to back up your insults.

Almost as bad as KH, lmao.

and where is your evidence that it will explode before Madara absorbs it when its going directly to him allowing him to activate his Preta Path?

and is there in the manga or DB that contradicted the fact Preta path can absorb anything that has chakra intact with it?

yes you're fodder debater.

 

[Crossroads]

It's not about the current argument but.... How do you know Orochimaru isn't very skilled at genjutsu ? Just because he doesn't have sharingans doesn't mean he can't be great at it. The mark of great genjutsu users is intelligence. And Oro has plenty of that.

Think of it like that. You (itachi) = 185 IQ (genjutsu), Me (orochimaru) = 180 IQ (genjutsu). We can both score 5/5 while you are better than me at genjutsu.

If someone read the databook and not the Manga, they would assume that Orochimaru and Itachi were equal in terms of Genjutsu, that's the point I'm getting it.

It's still flawed nonetheless.

@At the bold, not exactly.

 

[KidGamer65]

If someone read the databook and not the Manga, they would assume that Orochimaru and Itachi were equal in terms of Genjutsu, that's the point I'm getting it.

It's still flawed nonetheless.

@At the bold, not exactly.

Uh? No. 5 is the max rating. In reality Itachi could have something like 10 while Oro only barely made 5, but since DB only goes up to 5, Itachi has to get a 5 as well, but it doesn't mean that is Genjutsu is equal with Oro's.

 

[Crossroads]

and where is your evidence that it will explode before Madara absorbs it when its going directly to him allowing him to activate his Preta Path?

and is there in the manga or DB that contradicted the fact Preta path can absorb anything that has chakra intact with it?

yes you're fodder debater.

Where is your evidence it won't explode..? You have none, you have biased and illogical assumptions.

You make Madara look bad, to be honest. You should stop with these kind of threads.

And I've solo'd you on a number of occasions, so if I'm so bad, then that makes you beyond terrible.

Uh? No. 5 is the max rating. In reality Itachi could have something like 10 while Oro only barely made 5, but since DB only goes up to 5, Itachi has to get a 5 as well, but it doesn't mean that is Genjutsu is equal with Oro's.

Then the data-book should have elaborated on that. The only reason you know Itachi>Orochimaru in Genjutsu is because you read the Manga.

Meaning the data-book is misleading when it comes to that specific situation.

 

[Helikido]

tbb explode on impact. Preta path cannot absorb an eexplosion. Good try though.

 

[raziel777]

If someone read the databook and not the Manga, they would assume that Orochimaru and Itachi were equal in terms of Genjutsu, that's the point I'm getting it.

It's still flawed nonetheless.

@At the bold, not exactly.

It's exactly that

Genjutsu is most often used by ninja with very precise chakra control and very high intelligence, two notable users being Itachi Uchiha and Kurenai Yūhi.[3]

And here is the Databook page that supports that

Second Databook, page 163

But I got your point and let's not start an argument while you are busy with another one.

 

[Bronze]

Where is your evidence it won't explode..? You have none, you have biased and illogical assumptions.

You make Madara look bad, to be honest. You should stop with these kind of threads.

And I've solo'd you on a number of occasions, so if I'm so bad, then that makes you beyond terrible.



Then the data-book should have elaborated on that. The only reason you know Itachi>Orochimaru in Genjutsu is because you read the Manga.

Meaning the data-book is misleading when it comes to that specific situation.

yep even when i am asking first to provide scans you went and asked me because you knew you couldn't provide anything but its my thread and i am trying to convince people so i will answer:

TBB does not explode straight away as proven when Juubi shot at in here [

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], it did not explode. From that that Madara can activate Preta Path to absorb it easily.

this is the last time i am responding fodder debater.

tbb explode on impact. Preta path cannot absorb an eexplosion. Good try though.

where did i say preta path can absorb the explosion dumbass?

 

[Multiply]

Like I said. Why would he have to take in more black chakra than white chakra when they are mixed together as 1 form? Bijuu Dama. By taking in Bijuu Dama he is taking in both Black and White Chakra at equal amounts, as that is what Bijuu Dama. There is no reason to believe absorption would just cause him to absorb more of one type of chakra than the other, no reason at all.

The only factor size would have is the length it'd take to absorb the Bijuu Dama. If I were to believe Preta can't absorb Bijuu Dama, it'd be because of DemonicAvenger's post, not this.

If it's one form, and it starts being absorbed that means the chakra is being sepearated(Black and White). Madara can't possibly know it requires an 8:2 chakra ratio to create a beast bomb. Madara can't possibly decipher how much white and black chakra he's taking out of the tbb at any time. Saying he can is mere speculation. Saying he can't, however, makes perfect sense because you would need to gain that information from a bijuu in his life time. However, Madara was not really on speaking terms with any of the bijuu, so there's no actual way for him to know that.

The sharingan, or any variation can't see what the chakra is made of, it can merely see the chakra. Like in the Sasuke vs Deidara fight. Sasuke didn't know Deidara was releasing microscopic bugs until he was told, however, Sasuke saw the chakra signature being emitted from them, and acted accordingly. The same way Chakra nature can't be see by the sharingan. Sasuke had to rely on his knowledge of seals to know Deidara was primarily a doton user. The Sharingan merely sees chakra, not its make up. Keep saying Madara can choose the ratio in which he pulls out the chakra... Keep acting a fool. U_U

 

[Crossroads]

yep even when i am asking first to provide scans you went and asked me because you knew you couldn't provide anything but its my thread and i am trying to convince people so i will answer:

TBB does not explode straight away as proven when Juubi shot at in here [

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], it did not explode. From that that Madara can activate Preta Path to absorb it easily.

this is the last time i am responding fodder debater.

I've already disproved yourself with sufficient amount of Manga scans. It's up to you to grasp it or not.

This argument is illogical and pointless, Madara defeats Goku neg diff aswell, right?

You should wank another character, fodder like you make Madara look terrible.

If it's one form, and it starts being absorbed that means the chakra is being sepearated(Black and White). Madara can't possibly know it requires an 8:2 chakra ratio to create a beast bomb. Madara can't possibly decipher how much white and black chakra he's taking out of the tbb at any time. Saying he can is mere speculation. Saying he can't, however, makes perfect sense because you would need to gain that information from a bijuu in his life time. However, Madara was not really on speaking terms with any of the bijuu, so there's no actual way for him to know that.

The sharingan, or any variation can't see what the chakra is made of, it can merely see the chakra. Like in the Sasuke vs Deidara fight. Sasuke didn't know Deidara was releasing microscopic bugs until he was told, however, Sasuke saw the chakra signature being emitted from them, and acted accordingly. The same way Chakra nature can't be see by the sharingan. Sasuke had to rely on his knowledge of seals to know Deidara was primarily a doton user. The Sharingan merely sees chakra, not its make up. Keep saying Madara can choose the ratio in which he pulls out the chakra... Keep acting a fool. U_U

Lmaoooooo!

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[Avinash012]

Peta can Obviusly Absorb almost all of chakra based attack that includes TBB...But a TBB contains abit too much chakra to absorb ...

How much juice one can absorb depends on the user.......

 

[KidGamer65]

Anyway, I highly doubt Preta is absorbing all of the Juubidama.

 

[Avinash012]

yep even when i am asking first to provide scans you went and asked me because you knew you couldn't provide anything but its my thread and i am trying to convince people so i will answer:

TBB does not explode straight away as proven when Juubi shot at in here [

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], it did not explode. From that that Madara can activate Preta Path to absorb it easily.

this is the last time i am responding fodder debater.

That may be True but I don't think Madara can stop that TBB all by himself....It can push Madara backwords and if it managed to hit something = Boom...

 

[KidGamer65]

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Like I said, I believe this for a different reason, not because of your explanation.

 

[Draphsin]

Yes its possible but a highly unorthodox way of countering a tbb, considering you would be a sitting duck (its slow).

 

[Bronze]

Peta can Obviusly Absorb almost all of chakra based attack that includes TBB...But a TBB contains abit too much chakra to absorb ...

How much juice one can absorb depends on the user.......

Madara has the Senju body which shown that it can even contain the body of Juubi. Saying Madara cannot absorb it because its too much is BS when manga is clearly stating he can. Also Preta Path makes the chakra actually become part of the user's chakra and not giving him more. That's why its classified as Fuinjutsu.

 

[Avinash012]

Madara has the Senju body which shown that it can even contain the body of Juubi. Saying Madara cannot absorb it because its too much is BS when manga is clearly stating he can. Also Preta Path makes the chakra actually become part of the user's chakra and not giving him more. That's why its classified as Fuinjutsu.

I don't remember sayng anything about Madara in my post & I didn't even mentioned that he can't....

OT : By that logic Nagato can absorb senjutsu chakra from Naruto that is compatable to Kyubi's chakra since he can host Kyubi...Right...?

 

[Bronze]

I don't remember sayng any think about Madara in my post & I didn't even mentioned that he can't....

OT : By that logic Nagato can absorb senjutsu chakra from Naruto that is compatable to Kyubi's chakra since he can host Kyubi...Right...?

ooops.

you misunderstood. Senjutsu chakra doesn't infuse with Nagato chakra otherwise he would have had SM. SM or Kyuubi chakra would only increase Nagato's chakra while at the same time, the chakra spun in reverse and then vanishes within the body thus becoming Nagato's own chakra. That doesn't effect Nagato's body at all.

 

[Kage of the Hood]

If yall didn't see minato s/t barrier a TBB i bet nobody would think he could