Establishing Why Preta Path Can Absorb TBB Including Juubi's [Full Version]

[Xāvî1]

Exellent theory

 

[HiddenSound]

If you say so Lol

 

[raziel777]

Not at all, but is all of the Juubidama natural energy?

1/3 of it and we've seen how massive that ish is. Oh and don't forget that it's compressed chakra which means that there is even more than what we can see

 

[iNotorious]

TBB's juubi is too powerful.

 

[Bronze]

So if the TBB were to destroy the entire solar system, Madara would still absorb it with your logic.

don't understand what you just said there. Speak english please.

TBB's juubi is too powerful.

does that mean it can never be absorbed when facts say it can?

Yep, that logic.

He still hasn't countered my argument.

MR got solo'd.

OP: No, he doesn't absorb it. He dies, it one shots him effortlessly.

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You're forgetting something.

Once Natural energy is taken into one's body, it's not longer Natural Energy, and you must maintain it in your body by doing what...? Mixing Physical, Spiritual, and Natural energy. Something Madara cannot do.

your argument is fanfiction. I don't argue with those who spew fanfiction. DB and manga said TBB they get absorbed meaning they get absorbed.

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Not at all, but is all of the Juubidama natural energy?

juubi TBB is not natural energy. they are positive and negative chakra. If Madara absorbs them nothing happens to him.

well there is a contradiction... when pain absorbed naruto's senjutsu he turned into a stone...! and pa stated that pain absorbed too much of naruto's senjutsu..! meaning he could have absorbed senjutsu to a limit i.e FRS but not beyond i.e entire senjutsu chakra of naruto...! but it can have another meaning...! i.e when senjutsu is used in an attack then it's mixed chakra not pure senjutsu so may be an attack of any scale can be absorbed but not pure senjutsu...! but i'd go with first part...!

lol there isn't any contradictions. Juubi TBB don't utilize senjutsu.

You still didn't counter my argument, learn to read, good sir.

What happens when the shockwave and blast repercussions strike Madara..? He's going to absorb giant rocks to the face as well..?

there wont be any shock waves when Madara is absorbing them just like how rasengan didn't explode. When you actually provide good argument then i will reply not fanfiction and stuff like i don't use DB because they shut your argument.

You think Madara can tank a Jubidama?

stay on topic.

 

[iNotorious]

does that mean it can never be absorbed when facts say it can?

Well Preta path ''might'' be able to absorb it, ima leave it like that, maybe nagato U_U

 

[Crossroads]

your argument is fanfiction. I don't argue with those who spew fanfiction. DB and manga said TBB they get absorbed meaning they get absorbed.

You still didn't counter my argument, learn to read, good sir.

What happens when the shockwave and blast repercussions strike Madara..? He's going to absorb giant rocks to the face as well..?

Well Preta path ''might'' be able to absorb it, ima leave it like that, maybe nagato U_U

If the Juubidama had the power to destroy the solar system, Madara Rules would still believe Preta Path soaks it up.

 

[Oblivionx]

well there is a contradiction... when pain absorbed naruto's senjutsu he turned into a stone...! and pa stated that pain absorbed too much of naruto's senjutsu..! meaning he could have absorbed senjutsu to a limit i.e FRS but not beyond i.e entire senjutsu chakra of naruto...! but it can have another meaning...! i.e when senjutsu is used in an attack then it's mixed chakra not pure senjutsu so may be an attack of any scale can be absorbed but not pure senjutsu...! but i'd go with first part...!

 

[KidGamer65]

I wouldn't use the databook for a debate.

And the Rasengan actually

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explode, that's the reaction from the powerful force striking the ground.

So because Sakura

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the ground and caused a small shockwave, her arms explode aswell..?

I think not.

There is no logical reason why the Databook can't be used here.

No, the Rasengan hits the ground, explodes and that's why such a large crater forms from such a small ball. What you are describing is like a cannonball hitting the ground, it would just cause a small crater in the ground but it'd be deeper depending on the size and mass of it.

Also, Chakra Enhanced Strength, which is what Sakura uses, is in fact an explosive technique. She gathers chakra in her hand, hits the ground, releases it, and it causes an explosion. No normal punch would cause damage like that.

 

[Trollasaur]

then he shields with PS.

You think Madara can tank a Jubidama?

 

[KidGamer65]

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It's chakra bro. Regardless of how you flip it, the chakra must maintain a proper ratio. The same way when Sasuke and Naruto combined their Rasenshuriken and enton attack, Sasuke had to make sure Naruto's rasenshuriken maintained its proper ratio, otherwise it would just blow up in their face.

Saying he's taking it in at a steady rate is purely speculation, as you have no idea the rate.

It being chakra doesn't negate my example in any way.

Saying that he isn't taking it in at a steady rate is nothing but speculation, that doesn't eve make sense. Where is your proof that he is taking it in so that he gets more Positive or Negative chakra than he gets the other one? That doesn't even make sense and is completely baseless. Go mix any kind of substance and then start pouring it into another container and then tell me if the ratio of what makes up those substances is changed, its the same exact principle.


It's most likely that Preta isn't absorbing a Juubi Dama, but not for this reason, which doesn't even make sense or have any base.

 

[iNotorious]

You still didn't counter my argument, learn to read, good sir.

What happens when the shockwave and blast repercussions strike Madara..? He's going to absorb giant rocks to the face as well..?




If the Juubidama had the power to destroy the solar system, Madara Rules would still believe Preta Path soaks it up.

Give the guy a chance, who knows, it ''might'' happen :I

 

[Crossroads]

there wont be any shock waves when Madara is absorbing them just like how rasengan didn't explode. When you actually provide good argument then i will reply not fanfiction and stuff like i don't use DB because they shut your argument.

Okay, so obviously Rasengan took some

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to absorb, and is small in size when comparing it to the

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.

Madara wouldn't be able to absorb the entire blast before he dies from the impact.

I've been proving you wrong left and right on every topic we discuss, you just ignore it because your wank is over 9000, clearly.

And are we talking about the databook that says

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is omnipotent..?

Are we talking about the databook that says

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are on the same level, when they clearly are

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..?

Please, you need to step your debate game up. You make this too easy, son.

You are not worthy of dance.

 

[KidGamer65]

This is a theory DemoincAvenger made on Preta Path's limits.

Preta Path:

Preta Path has the ability to Abosorb Ninjutsu and Render them useless. This is done by taking in the Chakra and spinning the chakra until it is steralized (this is stated in the databook but i couldn't find the page to save my life) The Chakra does not go to the Preta path users chakra reservers but instead literally becomes nothing (for the lack of a better of a better way to put it)


I find that this is done by opening the Tenketsu and allowing the jutsu to flow into the user's Chakra Ciruclatory system (The opposite of Kaiten in a way) The Chakra is then Spun until it becomes sterile.

Now there's Two Factors that dictate how much the user can Absorb and how fast they can absorb it.

1. The Amount of Chakra that the User can Knead/Release

2. The User's Skill in Chakra Control

The Amount of Chakra that the User Can Knead/Release Dictates the amount of Chakra that The user of Preta Path can allow into their Chakra System at one time. Chakra being absorbed must be spun and sterilized to allow more to enter the system, This is where the User's Skill in Chakra Controll comes into play. The user's Chakra Control Dicates the Speed at which they can spin the absorbed chakra and therfore means that the better chakra control they have the faster they sterilize the absorbed chakra. The Use of the Barrier when using Preta Path means that the user has either worse Chakra control or cannot Knead/Release as much Chakra as one that does not have to use the barrier. Meaning that the path that used preta in the six paths of Pain cannot absorb as much chakra as Madara or Nagato.

Pain's Preta Path:

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Nagato using Preta Path:

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Madara Using Preta Path:

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[Prince Charles]

Who said Preta can't absorb a Tbb? Of course it can but it would take a while.

 

[Multiply]

It being chakra doesn't negate my example in any way.

Saying that he isn't taking it in at a steady rate is nothing but speculation, that doesn't eve make sense. Where is your proof that he is taking it in so that he gets more Positive or Negative chakra than he gets the other one? That doesn't even make sense and is completely baseless. Go mix any kind of substance and then start pouring it into another container and then tell me if the ratio of what makes up those substances is changed, its the same exact principle.


It's most likely that Preta isn't absorbing a Juubi Dama, but not for this reason, which doesn't even make sense or have any base.

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Wow... Just wow... Mixing something like water and sugar is a mixture. Mixtures never have the same ratio throughout. Just like when you get to the bottom of the pitcher of kool-aid, it tastes really sugary. That's because all the sugar mixed in with the water, and everything that was not soluble went straight to the bottom. If you pour that same kool aid into another pitcher, the ratio won't be the same, because you just added a catalyst to the mix; shaking. Shaking will free up more space in a solute, which allows more of the solvent to be dissolved.


Madara will have to take in more black chakra than white constantly, because if the ratio changes, 8:2, it will explode. I personally don't think he can absorb something that large with a perfect ratio, and you believe he can. Honestly neither of us is right, nor is the other wrong. We've reached an impasse simply because we can't actually provide proof for either of our claims. Hopefully you agree.

 

[Crossroads]

Who said Preta can't absorb a Tbb? Of course it can but it would take a while.

Madara Rules thinks that Preta Path can absorb a

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.

I believe Preta Path could absorb a Biju Dama up to 8 tails, Naruto's is debatable.

Juubidama shouldn't even be discussed.

 

[Bronze]

Okay, so obviously Rasengan took some

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to absorb, and is small in size when comparing it to the

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.

Madara wouldn't be able to absorb the entire blast before he dies from the impact.

I've been proving you wrong left and right on every topic we discuss, you just ignore it because your wank is over 9000, clearly.

And are we talking about the databook that says

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is omnipotent..?

Are we talking about the databook that says

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are on the same level, when they clearly are

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..?

Please, you need to step your debate game up. You make this too easy, son.

You are not worthy of dance.

this is why i really shouldn't be wasting my time with you. TBB wont explode when Madara is absorbing it. What part of the bold do you not understand?

so what you are basically saying is, everything in the DB is wrong because it has couple of mistakes. If that's the case we shouldn't also use manga because it said that chidori can cut through everything yet it couldn't cut through Obito's foot.

i really had respect for you but you're fodder debater.

 

[Crossroads]

this is why i really shouldn't be wasting my time with you. TBB wont explode when Madara is absorbing it. What part of the bold do you not understand?

so what you are basically saying is, everything in the DB is wrong because it has couple of mistakes. If that's the case we shouldn't also use manga because it said that chidori can cut through everything yet it couldn't cut through Obito's foot.

i really had respect for you but you're fodder debater.

What you're not understanding is, the Juubidama will explode before Madara even knows what's happening. His only hope is to throw up Preta Path and put his head between his two legs and pray.

And not exactly, I'm saying the databook just shouldn't be used to such a literal point when it's proven to have many flaws.


Fodder debater..? You're just a retaliation insulter. You honestly have nothing to back up your insults.

Almost as bad as KH, lmao.

 

[TrollingSage]

this is why i really shouldn't be wasting my time with you. TBB wont explode when Madara is absorbing it.

Not unless someone throws another attack at it, like say a rasenshuriken for example.