Establishing why: Sasori > Danzō

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Akasuna no Sasori vs. Danzō Shimura | 赤砂のサソリvs志村ダンゾウ

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Restrictions: None.
Info: Basic Manga Knowledge.
Location: Sasuke vs Danzō.
Distance: 35 Meters.
Intent: To kill.
Conditions: Both are alive.

The Unbreakable Puppet | アンブレイカブル人形

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I'm sure that you all know by now that Sasori wouldn't approach Danzō in Hiruko since Danzō happens to be both a Hokage level shinobi and the leader of the Root while Sasori prefers to fight in a safe position and approaching Danzō in Hiruko wouldn't be really safe. [ ] Since Sasori would approach Danzō in his real body, both of them would start in their base forms and none of their jutsu would be activated at this point. Sadly for Danzō, Sasori would be the first one who would get the Sandaime Kazekage out since it takes a second for a skilled Puppet Master to get his puppet out [ ][ ] and once he does that, it's a potential gg. Before even being able to use Izanagi, Danzō has to remove the metallic seal on his arm. [ ][ ] However, this isn't an option due to the Sandaime's magnetism. As we know, metallic tools are useless against the Sandaime Kazekage which means that they are useless against Sasori. [ ] Due to this, Sasori will be controlling his right arm due to the fact that he can control the metallic seal on that arm so basically Sasori can attract Danzō to himself in a similiar way Banshō Ten'in works [ ] and once he does that, he can just kill him off with a poisoned weapon.

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If somehow Danzō does indeed manage to take off that metallic seal of his, it won't really matter. It will only prolong the battle. Before someone says how Danzō can just appear behind Sasori and kill him once he has used Izanagi, no this would not happen. Sasori can do the same Sasuke did just with his Satetsu. [ ][ ] He can cover himself in a Satetsu Dome and once Danzō appears from behind, he won't be able to attack and kill Sasori due to the Satetsu Dome around him similiar to Gaara's Sand Dome. [ ] Not to mention that Danzō doesn't know about Sasori's core so he won't aim there and before anyone says that the Sharingan can see the core, that isn't true. Just take a look at this quote right here.

2. You made a great observation for Sasuke. Indeed Sasuke has the intelligence to come up with that focus. Unfortunately the core is the live part that controls/active the chakra that is stored IN the Human Puppet. Let me elaborate. First read Chiyo's words [ ]. Sasori builts in engine for the chakra to be stored as you see <--Kazekage. And Sasori's personal <-- (in his next chest plate).

Chakra goes throught Sasori's whole body as seen when he used his Akahigi: Hyakki no Sōen. There was Chakra in the right side of his chest despite the fact that the heart was in the left side of his chest. [ ] Furthermore, Sasori can use Chakra Strings via his fingers which confirm that Chakra travels throught Sasori's whole body. Basically Danzō will hit the part where Sasori's core isn't and Sasori will gain knowledge on him. Now before I hear some nonsense on how Danzō's Juinjutsu will work on Sasori. No, not in a million of years. That seal works by paralysing the opponent which won't work here since Sasori is a Human Puppet and not a normal human. [ ] Not to mention that Danzō actually has to touch the victim in order to use this technique on him which isn't really happening due to Sasori being a long - ranged fighter. [ ] And also, take a look at the description of the jutsu.

The seal can also be applied during combat, and can secretly be placed on the opponent's body. When the user activates it, the curse seal's marks spread around the opponent's body, paralysing them. However, one can break free from the seal with a strong enough release of chakra.

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With that being said, the only thing that is a threat here is Danzō's Fūton and Baku. Danzō's Fūton will be basically countered by Sasori's Satetsu Dome since it would defend Sasori from any of Danzō's Fūton. The Satetsu is harder than Gaara's normal sand which was even able to tank Deidara's C3 explosion. [ ][ ] Sasori can just keep on blocking every last one of Danzō's Fūtons due to the fact that they can't break or slice throught the Satetsu. Baku isn't really an option here either since as we know Baku is a summoning that tries to eat his target in order to kill him. Sasor can simply create a Satetsu Mother similiar to Gaara's Sand Mother [ ] in order for it to grab the floor and Sasori so that they don't get sucked in just like Sasuke did with his Susano'o. [ ] Sasori won't get sucked in by Baku. And finally, before someone tries to imply that Genjutsu would work on Sasori, no. Sasori is immune to all Genjutsu as explained here.


Immunity to Genjutsu

In all honesty, I fail to see how this is still being debated, but I've seen people claim that Sasori is not immune to Genjutsu despite the fact that he is a Human Puppet. [ ][ ] From Jiraiya's explanation [ ] we know that the Genjutsu works by targeting the opponent's head and messes up their senses. It basically causes you to hear, sense, see and maybe even taste what the caster of the Genjutsu wishes you to. However, sadly for Genjutsu users, Sasori is a Puppet who lacks a brain and only has a heart as stated by the man himself.

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Let me explain a bit more. In Naruto, thoughts and those stuff seem to be part of your "Mental Energy". If you read the Databook article for Mind Body Transfer, you would see that Yamanaka force all of their Mental Energy into the other person, thus their body drops unconcious. If you realise, Ino can now think in the other persons body? Sasori can still think, because he HAS a piece of flesh, which contains both Physical Energy + Mental Energy. Both needed to create Chakra. In your entire body there is Physical Energy and Spiritual/Mental energy, and when you merge the both, you make Chakra. [ ] Yamanaka force their entire Mental Energy into other people which inturn sends their Mind as well, then their body just falls, in the other body, they maintain their ability to think, their entire MIND has been passed over and that shows that the mental energy part of your body is where your mind is in Naruto.

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With that said skin and all human organs have sense receptors so by having that little piece of human remains atleast one sense can be manipulated. However Genjutsu doesn't just affect senses. It affects Chakra in the cranial nerves to be EXACT. It is the cranial nerves in the brain that controls most the senses.

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For eg the Olfactory controls your sense of smell. <-- A sense that sasori has no longer. A Genjutsu user controls those cranial nerves, and could make you do what he wished. If he wanted you to see Red clouds and a Red moon, He would target the Optic nerves in the interbrain to make you see Red clouds and a Red moon.

Kishi however didn't explain everything to well, and sasori has found a way to maintain
1) sight,
2) Sound

Those are just about the only almost unexplainable things, but it simply has to do with the fact that it's a fiction story. Where someone can make themselves into a puppet, and someone has blue skin and looks like a shark. We can't really make sense of any of it, but what is clear is how Genjtusu works. However, if people wish it could be explained how Sasori retained the ability to see and hear despite having only a heart.

Section two was written by a very intelligent member in which we don't have with us currently any longer; pay close attention to this part as I can conclude that it is the ideal changer.

To strengthen the possibility of Sasori being immune to Genjutsu I have to bring out a few scenario's similar to the premise:

When Orochimaru absorbed his Chakra from Kabuto, he obtained memories and information from him.

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When Itachi prodded Sasuke he forced information - Amaterasu - into Sasuke, the fact he had Itachi's MS style shows his influence.

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Just confirms that in the NV that Chakra can contain information, that a heart as the source of Chakra can be seen as Sasori's 'brain'



In reality, it shouldn't even be debatable since Sasori himself already stated that he only has a heart and no brain, and not to mention that the Databook itself stated that Sasori can no longer be conisdered Human. [ ]



The Truly Immortal One | 本当に不滅ワン

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Killing off Danzō won't be that hard for someone like Sasori due to the speed of the Satetsu attacks. Danzō was unable to dodge Sasuke's Susano'o Arrows. [ ] Satetsu Shigure Spears are faster than those Susano'o Arrows. [ ] Basically Danzō has like ten lives, yes, but it doesn't matter. Everytime he appears, he will get hit with a Satetsu Shigure Spear which will force him to use an another Izanagi. This will keep on going until Sasori gets rid off all ten of Danzō's Sharingans while Danzō won't be able to break throught Sasori's defenses. If he tries to approach and hit Sasori's Satetsu Dome, Sasori can just make it suddenly spike up and impale Danzō in a similiar way Gaara did against Sasuke. [ ][ ] So approaching and trying to hit Sasori's Satetsu Dome would be just wasting lives. Danzō could try to block some attacks with the Mokuton Tree, but that really won't happen. Even a Susano'o Arrow was able to pierce throught that Tree [ ] so Satetsu which can tear throught rock like it's nothing won't be stopped by that Tree. [ ] The fact that Sasori can increase the speed of his Satetsu doesn't really help out Danzō either.

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Furthermore what denies Danzō his any chance of victory in this battle is the fact that he has to inhale before exhaling a Fūton which means that Sasori can take care of one of his 'lives' right there by releasing a Poison Fog on Danzō who would inhale it in the process of making his own attack. [ ] This same tactic can be used against Baku or Sasori can simply kill Baku with his flamethrowers or a Satetsu attack while Baku will attract all of those attacks to itself with it's 'vacuum'. Sasuke countered Baku in the same way. [ ]

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In the end, Sasori defeats Danzō. He can't get throught Sasori's Satetsu and he can't evade Sasori's attacks. Sasori will be able to take down Danzō ten times since he is a Puppet who doesn't have to worry about his stamina.


Winner: Akasuna no Sasori | 勝者:赤砂のサソリ

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Damn, I am going away for a few hours...

I'll read this then and point out why you're wrong later. BYE LEON! <3
 

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Totally agreed. The only problem is Baku's Fuuton, but Satetsu surely can block it.
 

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Danzo has a sharingan eye, therefore he's able to locate Sasori's core and aim all his attacks as kill strikes.
Danzo has izanagi, therefore sasori has to kill him 12 times to win.
Danzo uses fuuton, therefore he can cut through anything sasori has to offer.

Result? Danzo wins.
 

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Baku gets killed by the flamethrowers.
 

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Well, it seems u don't even need to use sasori true form and hundre jutsu.
 

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Yes... Very good.

But how do you have so much time for this!? I wish I had the time to make these threads... I have a Biology test tomorrow, then I have to hand in a formal lab on Tuesday, Chemistry test on Thursday and a Seminar on Friday...
 

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Yes... Very good.

But how do you have so much time for this!? I wish I had the time to make these threads... I have a Biology test tomorrow, then I have to hand in a formal lab on Tuesday, Chemistry test on Thursday and a Seminar on Friday...

Lmao. xD Just go study and get yourself some free time. xD
 

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Yes... Very good.

But how do you have so much time for this!? I wish I had the time to make these threads... I have a Biology test tomorrow, then I have to hand in a formal lab on Tuesday, Chemistry test on Thursday and a Seminar on Friday...
Get your revision out of the way then you'll have time for yourself? :p
 

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Agree. The only think I disagree on is the effect of Seals. We seen it twice used from Chiyo that or

Anyway good thread
 
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