Why sell the bijuus?

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Sell the bijuu?
The first kazekage saw it , it is just business , not an agreement.
Business is made between 2 individuals who are ennemies during the transaction.The goal is to take advantage over the ennemy.

Like the first kazekage said , we don't want power we want to be rich.


The 5 kages are not ready to unify , to give their money to other countries cause they are poor , to give their power cause they need it...
They are not ready to act as one group , it is obvious , so Hashirama take your guts and don't sell them the bijuus.
It's a first try but a bad one , shame on you Tobirama , you should have just shut your mouth up forever.
 

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The point was to not be the most powerful nation on the planet; to willingly give biju to the other nations shows you do not want to be a militaristic Imperialist who only wants sheer domination. Compassion, compromise, and equality are the signs of a makeshift alliance.
 

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hashirama and them wanted that guap
 

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In order to make an alliance the powers between the nation should be stabilised.!
Thats what the selling of bijjus was for.!
if not konoha will be a sole military dominant power and it will be able to annihilate any other country.!
 
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Wouldnt it be awesome if sakura sasuke and naruto all was jinchuriki?
Team dominance they should be called and their missions are
Us ultra super missions. They get assigned for military takeover of a whole country.
Would be really good dont you think?
 

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In order to make an alliance the powers between the nation should be stabilised.!
Thats what the selling of bijjus was for.!
if not konoha will be a sole military dominant power and it will be able to annihilate any other country.!

The goal is stabilisation of the military force.
Is it for fair play?
The one who will survive in this battle royale will fairly be the winner.

Everybody will buy the bijuus , they are great weapons to protect their country , increasing the feeling of insecurity , other countries are ennemies , I need weapons to protect against them , starting a cold war.

One country is more concerned about the stabilisation of wealth , and Tobirama wants to increase that gap by selling weapons...Not a good agreement for the first Kazekage.



That's really a bad idea if you want to make countries go together.But great if you don't.
Stabilising military force does not make the countries unify , it does the opposite.



What will you say if I tell you:"You want peace , buy weapons ".Am I a good guy?
 
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Selling the Bijuus was a sign of good faith. Hashirama wanted to show the other nations that they didn't want war anymore, that he aimed for a future without un-needed death of children, womans and men. The reason war comes in the world is simple, one side wants something the other has. Be that land, resources, money or power. They want what their enemies have, unless they are the protecting part that only want to keep what they self already have. Hashirama wanted to give each country equal power, equal resources and so on to ensure that none of the countries would attack another to obtain something they self lacked.

In other words, if everyone was equal in every way. There would be no need for war. Thought it could still come up as people are greedy. But it would lessen the chance of it happening, greatly.
 

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Hashirama aint a psychopath like some fodders(Madara lol)
 

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Let say a bijuu = an atomic bomb.

There are 9 bombs on Earth.
One country have found the 8 bombs out of the 9 bombs.
Do you think it is right to give those bombs to 5 presidents of the biggest countries , some may be corrupted , the little countries will just shut their mouth up...
Those 5 guys nearly started a war at their first meeting , they're not ready to cooperate.Don't give those guys the power to destruct the planet.
Someday those weapons are gonna be used , with Earth life at stake...

To sell the bombs proves that Tobi does not act only for the good of humanity , he may think that stabilising forces will lead to peace ( cold war not peace ) , but that is not enough for him , he wants money dominance , shame.
I will not be confident with this guy in the future.Bad start for a cooperation.

I would sign the agreement if there was no other answers possible ( I would take the bijuus no matter how expensive they are , it's ev+ ) , but there are...
 
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Giving Bijuus to other village was a good way to make things even.......
For example: If konoha kept all Bijuus for itself, the other 4 village would feel insecure and might try to unify and destroy Konoha. Also, it would be big problem for konoha to control all the Bijuus alone, as we can see how hard it is to control one Bijuu.
 

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Giving Bijuus to other village was a good way to make things even.......
For example: If konoha kept all Bijuus for itself, the other 4 village would feel insecure and might try to unify and destroy Konoha. Also, it would be big problem for konoha to control all the Bijuus alone, as we can see how hard it is to control one Bijuu.

To make that battle royale fair?Strange but why not.Hashirama is very fair-play.

I understand they have to do something , the first thing that comes to my mind is a world military government whose president is elected by everyone in the world , not only stabilising forces and thats it...
At least plan to do something else in a future meeting , as soon as possible.
 

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If they kept the Bijuu, there would be no alliance or unification.

If Tobirama allowed Hashirama to give out the Bijuu for free then Konoha would be at a disadvantage against the other villages considering Hashirama hadn't captured Kurama at that time.
 
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Business is made between 2 individuals who are ennemies during the transaction.The goal is to take advantage over the ennemy.

This is bullshit.. you both want the best deal and at the point you both voluntarily agree with the deal it's a win-win situation.
ofcourse you can have regrets later because you made a stupid decision, but that's all you so if there's a enemy it's yourself.
 

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As a descendant of the younger son, he also believed in peace not through power but love. Konoha dominated all the other nations with Bijuu's and Senju/Uchiha clan. That is not the peace he wanted to achieve. It's very simple if you've been reading the manga and following the plot. Same struggle is passed down to Naruto and Sasuke. Peace through power or love.

This was Hashirama's way to show the other nations his ideal. Even though Konoha can dominate all the other nations, he is not a tyrant. Hence, to balance the power and a sign of good faith, he gave the Bijuu's away.
 

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If they kept the Bijuu, there would be no alliance or unification.

If Tobirama allowed Hashirama to give out the Bijuu for free then Konoha would be at a disadvantage against the other villages considering Hashirama hadn't captured Kurama at that time.

How do you know that he hadn't captured Kurama? This meeting could have taken place after VoTE fight.

Konoha needed money in return in order to compensate for the power lose of the bijuu, they get some financial gain. It's the same principal the Kazikage was using when he made his proposal. The point of the meeting was not to just level the playing field with weapons, but economically as well.

Tobirama... as usual... was correct to make Hashi sell them instead of giving them away.
 

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How do you know that he hadn't captured Kurama? This meeting could have taken place after VoTE fight.

Konoha needed money in return in order to compensate for the power lose of the bijuu, they get some financial gain. It's the same principal the Kazikage was using when he made his proposal. The point of the meeting was not to just level the playing field with weapons, but economically as well.

Tobirama... as usual... was correct to make Hashi sell them instead of giving them away.
Yah, this is correct but I remember seeing a thread explaining why Hashirama hadn't captured Kurama at that time. I'll try to find the topic
 

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This is bullshit.. you both want the best deal and at the point you both voluntarily agree with the deal it's a win-win situation.
ofcourse you can have regrets later because you made a stupid decision, but that's all you so if there's a enemy it's yourself.
Most deals are win/win cause most people are smart and fair , but you have to induce your opponents to make the more mistakes they can , as a business man.The goal is only your own wealth.So it's a fight.
 

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Madara may have told the kages to stabilise power ( stupid idea I think ) to make sure the bijuus are far from konoha , and easier to catch.
 
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