part1 Sasuke vs Tsunade

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O_O Ok....


This is a battle between fanboys and common sense...
Part 1 Sasuke skills were great for a gennin/chunnin, but could he handle the level of Taijutsu that a Kage Level Kunoichi has??

Sorry, but no....
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(Remember, we have compare Tsuna's Third Databook Stats with Second Databook Sasuke, there is no way Tsunade winning against Part 2 Sasuke)

Forget about the 2.5 difference in Ninjutsu, since Byakugou and Katsuyu are not included in this VS, there is no point mention them as a proof.

=>Tsunade doubles Sasuke's skills in Taijutsu, so a melee fight is not an option for Sasuke...
=>Godaime Hokages's intelligence in on another level, Sasuke has no chance of making a strategy that Tsunade can't foresight, she would play with him until she bores...
=>What about the speed?? I know, Tsunade is slow, but she is not slower than Sasuke used to be in part 1... so they are equal in that subject...
=>And finally, Tsuna has a little bit more stamina that the Uchiha, but this is not needed at all... Tsunade has a one-hit-ko jutsu.... She only has to land one single blow to end this...

Given the fact Tsuna's superior skills in Taijutsu, her impressive Intelligence, and they are equally fast... Sasuke will be knocked down in his first try....
 
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Part one Sasuke Wins. It's ridiculous how Tsunade even makes a win against 3T that was able to track one-Tailed Naruto's movements perfectly and only couldn't react to the chakra acting separately.

She isn't reacting to Sasuke's speed that was on-par with Lee nor would she recover from Chidori, whether it's aided by CM or not. All he needs is to evade her slow punches and drive Chidori through her heart. She isn't hitting him, so she isn't wining. Simple as that.
 

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Part one Sasuke Wins. It's ridiculous how Tsunade even makes a win against 3T that was able to track one-Tailed Naruto's movements perfectly and only couldn't react to the chakra acting separately.

She isn't reacting to Sasuke's speed that was on-par with Lee nor would she recover from Chidori, whether it's aided by CM or not. All he needs is to evade her slow punches and drive Chidori through her heart. She isn't hitting him, so she isn't wining. Simple as that.
Tsunade and Sasuke has the same level of speed, according to the Third and Second Databook, and Tsunade doubles Part 1 Sasuke in Taijutsu...

So Fail....
 

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I love how people overrate Tsunade's taijutsu so much. Sasuke stomps her in CQC.
 

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I love how people overrate Tsunade's taijutsu so much. Sasuke stomps her in CQC.
I am not overrating anything, Kishi is:
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5 vs 2.5 pints in Taijutsu...
 

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I am not overrating anything, Kishi is:
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5 vs 2.5 pints in Taijutsu...

Please.

. Even with his speed. He also kept up pretty good against the Sound Four. [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] And this was without CM and before he awakened 3T.

And just to through this out there. Sasuke focuses a lot on his speed when he uses chidori. [ ] [ ] [ ] Lee also even states that without the sharingan an attack like chidori .

Also Sasuke practically copied Lee's style of taijutsu before his match with Gaara.
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Please.

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JAJAJAJAJA No one compared him to Lee with his gates open, they compared him to without the weights!!

It doesn't matter how fast is Part 1 Sasuke, Tsunade is as fast as him.... Kishi said it, deal with it...
 

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Tsunade and Sasuke has the same level of speed, according to the Third and Second Databook, and Tsunade doubles Part 1 Sasuke in Taijutsu...

So Fail....

So in your humble opinion Tsunade has speed on par with Lee without weights? Good one.
 

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Part one Sasuke Wins. It's ridiculous how Tsunade even makes a win against 3T that was able to track one-Tailed Naruto's movements perfectly and only couldn't react to the chakra acting separately.

She isn't reacting to Sasuke's speed that was on-par with Lee nor would she recover from Chidori, whether it's aided by CM or not. All he needs is to evade her slow punches and drive Chidori through her heart. She isn't hitting him, so she isn't wining. Simple as that.

This is basically what I've been saying all day long. The only argument people seem to have is Tsunade is a Kage, but given the restrictions, she might as well be a mid level Jounin.
 

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So in your humble opinion Tsunade has speed on par with Lee without weights? Good one.
It is not my opinion XD !!!

That is what Kishi stated in the Databook ;) .
Tsunade's speed: 3.5
Part 1 Sasuke: 3.5

There is nothing to discuss....
 

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It is not my opinion XD !!!

That is what Kishi stated in the Databook ;) .
Tsunade's speed: 3.5
Part 1 Sasuke: 3.5

There is nothing to discuss....

The same databook that states Yata guards all attacks?

The same databook that states Kamui can't be guarded?

Please, the databook is halfassed and full of contradictions, made for fans pure enjoyment. I would use nothing other than the Manga to base my arguments off of. I'd even refer to the Anime before the databook.
 

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JAJAJAJAJA No one compared him to Lee with his gates open, they compared him to without the weights!!

It doesn't matter how fast is Part 1 Sasuke, Tsunade is as fast as him.... Kishi said it, deal with it...

Without weights = Lee's base speed. Without gates = Lee's base speed. Are you stupid?
 

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It is not my opinion !!!

That is what Kishi stated in the Databook .
Tsunade's speed: 3.5
Part 1 Sasuke: 3.5

There is nothing to discuss....

Speed Plus 3T's immense clairvoyance? Throw that OUT of the window to put weight on your logic. And Chidori makes for one of the few techniques Sasuke has up his sleeves. He outsmarted Orochimaru with his Wind-mill Shuriken, Strings, and Katon combination. Let's see Tsunade do any better.

Once he gets an opening, it would take a single hit from Sasuke to crush her chest and tear it wide open.

This is basically what I've been saying all day long. The only argument people seem to have is Tsunade is a Kage, but given the restrictions, she might as well be a mid level Jounin.

The restrictions here make a big difference indeed.
 

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The same databook that states Yata guards all attacks?

The same databook that states Kamui can't be guarded?

Please, the databook is halfassed and full of contradictions, made for fans pure enjoyment. I would use nothing other than the Manga to base my arguments off of. I'd even refer to the Anime before the databook.
I think is right about the Kamui, it cannot be guarded, but evaded...
I don't know what Yata is...

Made for fans??? lol

Sha no Sho:
The Naruto [Secret: Scroll of People] Character Official Databook (NARUTO-ナルト-[秘伝・者の書]キャラクターオフィシャルデータBOOK, NARUTO [Hiden: Sha no Sho] Kyarakutā Ofisharu DētaBOOK) is the fourth of the supplementary guidebooks on the Naruto series authored by Masashi Kishimoto. It is the third of three databooks.
It was first published on 9th September 2008 and roughly covers volumes twenty-eight through forty-three. It was published as part of the Jump Comics line by Shueisha, under publisher Kazuhiko Torishima. Its ISBN is 4-08-874247-2 and it has 357 pages.
It Kishi's word against yours, let me remind you, he did wrote the storyline and the characters you are debating about ;) .
 

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Speed Plus 3T's immense clairvoyance? Throw that OUT of the window to put weight on your logic. And Chidori makes for one of the few techniques Sasuke has up his sleeves. He outsmarted Orochimaru with his Wind-mill Shuriken, Strings, and Katon combination. Let's see Tsunade do any better.

Once he gets an opening, it would take a single hit from Sasuke to crush her chest and tear it wide open.



The restrictions here make a big difference indeed.
2 things:
=> Tsunade is smarter, better at Taijutsu, has more stamina, equally fast, and has a one-hit-ko that can use way more than Sasuke's Raikiri. Sasuke had only 2 shots with Chidori back then.
=> Orochimaru was testing him, and even that he fought that well and Orochimaru wasn't serious, he didn't defeat him...
 

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I can't believe i'm arguing in this thread, but this is getting ridiculous. U_U

Tsunade shits on Sasuke. They are not on the same ball park. For those who say Sasuke is as fast as Lee so Tsunade couldn't hit him, may i remember you that end of chunin exam Sasuke was considered weaker than Naruto? Sasuke was even frustrated to see the gap between them [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Himself noticed the difference [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

This same Naruto was fodder to Tsunade
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During the small duel, she even stole his little froggy without him noticing [ ]

I know many people don't like Tsunade or don't like female characters at all, but stop with the nonsense U_U
 

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I think is right about the Kamui, it cannot be guarded, but evaded...
I don't know what Yata is...

Made for fans??? lol

Sha no Sho:
The Naruto [Secret: Scroll of People] Character Official Databook (NARUTO-ナルト-[秘伝・者の書]キャラクターオフィシャルデータBOOK, NARUTO [Hiden: Sha no Sho] Kyarakutā Ofisharu DētaBOOK) is the fourth of the supplementary guidebooks on the Naruto series authored by Masashi Kishimoto. It is the third of three databooks.
It was first published on 9th September 2008 and roughly covers volumes twenty-eight through forty-three. It was published as part of the Jump Comics line by Shueisha, under publisher Kazuhiko Torishima. Its ISBN is 4-08-874247-2 and it has 357 pages.
It Kishi's word against yours, let me remind you, he did wrote the storyline and the characters you are debating about ;) .

1. Your English is terrible.

2. You don't know what Yata is..? Clearly I'm talking to someone very ignorant.

3. Everything Kishimoto does is for his fans in terms of Naruto's sake, without his fans, this Manga wouldn't exist.

I've actually reconsidered this, Sasuke takes her medium difficulty.
 

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Tsunade destroys that kid. Little sasuke with no outside experience gated in the leaf walls is not beating Tsunade. This is getting out of hand.
 

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I can't believe i'm arguing in this thread, but this is getting ridiculous. U_U

Tsunade shits on Sasuke. They are not on the same ball park. For those who say Sasuke is as fast as Lee so Tsunade couldn't hit him, may i remember you that end of chunin exam Sasuke was considered weaker than Naruto? Sasuke was even frustrated to see the gap between them [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Himself noticed the difference [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

This same Naruto was fodder to Tsunade
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During the small duel, she even stole his little froggy without him noticing [ ]

I know many people don't like Tsunade or don't like female characters at all, but stop with the nonsense U_U


Naruto at the end of Part 1 wasn't stronger than Sasuke, he could've won the fight if he summoned Gamabunta, but Naruto himself wasn't stronger than Sasuke.

You're using A>B>C logic, since you think Naruto to be stronger than Tsunade, and Part 1 Naruto wouldn't have a chance against Tsunade, you think Tsunade to be stronger than Naruto.. fallacy.

Naruto would get shitted on. Sasuke wouldn't be touched.


Tsunade destroys that kid. Little sasuke with no outside experience gated in the leaf walls is not beating Tsunade. This is getting out of hand.

I'm really getting tired of all these empty posts posing no legit argument.
 
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