Rinnegan Obito vs Tobirama

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100 meters, FULL intel, IC to Kill, Konoha Crater.

Obito has no Paths, no Gedo.

Tobirama has no edos.
 
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Has he demonstrated any Rinnegan abilities?

And if it's full intel, I'm not sure which way this goes.
 

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Stomp match.

-Tobirama's stationary FTG would be useless against Obito.

-Obito's reserves are greater than Tobirama's.

-Everything in Tobirama's arsenal gets dodged via Kamui.

-The only reason Minato could land an attack on Obito was purely because Minato possesses the ability to use his FTG via while moving, hence why it's called, Hiraishin no Jutsu level 2.

Obito low- medium difficulty.
 

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Stomp match.

-Tobirama's stationary FTG would be useless against Obito.

-Obito's reserves are greater than Tobirama's.

-Everything in Tobirama's arsenal gets dodged via Kamui.

-The only reason Minato could land an attack on Obito was purely because Minato possesses the ability to use his FTG via while moving, hence why it's called, Hiraishin no Jutsu level 2.
Obito low- medium difficulty.

Gross underestimation of Tobirama's abilities not to mention pure speculation on the side.

OT: Restrict the Mazou. Tobirama's not got a chance of winning unless that's restricted.

If Tobirama's FTG is linked with his Suiton as suggested by the manga he can win. Not to mention if Obito gets into a Taijutsu confrontation Tobirama can plaster him with explosive tags.

With Kage Bushin I think Tobirama has a chance of winning.
 

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Gross underestimation of Tobirama's abilities not to mention pure speculation on the side.

OT: Restrict the Mazou. Tobirama's not got a chance of winning unless that's restricted.

If Tobirama's FTG is linked with his Suiton as suggested by the manga he can win. Not to mention if Obito gets into a Taijutsu confrontation Tobirama can plaster him with explosive tags.

With Kage Bushin I think Tobirama has a chance of winning.

Way to contradict yourself to the max...

You say that crossroads is speculating? Well then what do you call this? Lol

If Tobirama's FTG is linked with his Suiton as suggested by the manga he can win.

Show me the confirmation & then its not speculation. Otherwise you're making stuff up

& as for obito getting hit by explosive tags, lmao did you not see obito vs konan? tags, explosives, anything of the sort is dodged via kamui.

Obito stomps, without the mazou low diff.
 

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The fact that he can use Kage Bunshin nullifies the ''static FTG'' Argument.

Also Obito may have more chakra but FTG definitely costs less chakra than Kamui. FTG is a simple shunshin which can be used at any range whereas Kamui involved moving part of your body, or all of it, to another dimension and is a Mangekyou tech.
 

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Way to contradict yourself to the max...

You say that crossroads is speculating? Well then what do you call this? Lol



Show me the confirmation & then its not speculation. Otherwise you're making stuff up

& as for obito getting hit by explosive tags, lmao did you not see obito vs konan? tags, explosives, anything of the sort is dodged via kamui.

Obito stomps, without the mazou low diff.


This, I was going to come back to counter him but it seems you already have.
 

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Way to contradict yourself to the max...

You say that crossroads is speculating? Well then what do you call this? Lol



Show me the confirmation & then its not speculation. Otherwise you're making stuff up

& as for obito getting hit by explosive tags, lmao did you not see obito vs konan? tags, explosives, anything of the sort is dodged via kamui.

Obito stomps, without the mazou low diff.

Someone had to take the bait.

Not able to post slides at the moment but the only way Obito survived the explosions was due to Izanagi - which he can use, sure, but then he loses his last Sharingan.

I'll elaborate on this Suiton FTG shiz in a bit. I was actually joking about that but it's possible (But obviously speculation.) that it's true.

You can also see the 'if' which means its unconfirmed.

His FTG isn't even static considering he can apply tags to his sword or his Kage Bushin.
 

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The fact that he can use Kage Bunshin nullifies the ''static FTG'' Argument.

Also Obito may have more chakra but FTG definitely costs less chakra than Kamui. FTG is a simple shunshin which can be used at any range whereas Kamui involved moving part of your body, or all of it, to another dimension and is a Mangekyou tech.

Obito uses kamui constantly

You have no idea if it takes as much chakra as a simple kage bunshin to use kamui for him. Its an MS jutsu yes but senju dna makes it so the cooldown of KA is 24 hours instead of a decade, & that's when someone isnt a uchiha/senju hybrid.
 

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Obito mid diff at most, Tobirama has little feats whatsoever to quantify, apparently he's not a good matchup
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Someone had to take the bait.

Well you caught the wrong fish brah. :cool:

Not able to post slides at the moment but the only way Obito survived the explosions was due to Izanagi - which he can use, sure, but then he loses his last Sharingan.

Point? Konan's explosives last for 10 full minutes, show me tobirama's 10 minute explosive barrage, otherwise obito phases through them. Hell he can even go through the ground, explosion averted.

I'll elaborate on this Suiton FTG shiz in a bit. I was actually joking about that but it's possible (But obviously speculation.) that it's true.

You can also see the 'if' which means its unconfirmed.

So you call out crossroads for spaculating (which he didnt), yet you're doing speculating yourself? I Don't get it..

His FTG isn't even static considering he can apply tags to his sword or his Kage Bushin.

Cool, & how does this hurt obito who now knows of this trick?
 

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Well you caught the wrong fish brah. :cool:



Point? Konan's explosives last for 10 full minutes, show me tobirama's 10 minute explosive barrage, otherwise obito phases through them. Hell he can even go through the ground, explosion averted.



So you call out crossroads for spaculating (which he didnt), yet you're doing speculating yourself? I Don't get it..



Cool, & how does this hurt obito who now knows of this trick?

Lel, like I said I was joking.

The 'speculation' was that Crossroads said that FTG - a S/T technique, would be ineffective against Obito which worked before. Sure Obito's experienced it but tell me again what precautions Obito took so he would never be affected again.

And Tobirama's explosions last longer than 10 minutes, possibly indefinitely. I'll let him explain.
is near infinite and was only stopped because Obito used his advanced attack to destroy them.

And if Obito even wants to maintain effectiveness; he has to come out (At least partially.) of his Kamui intangibility - which lasts five minutes max, in order to actually pose a threat, which runs him under the risk of getting plastered by Goju Kibakfuda. Considering Tobirama was able to do so to Obito when he became the fastest Shinobi alive and not only placed an FTG tag, but also spread the tags all over him. I see it as a high-end possibility. This was all with the side of Tobirama that got destroyed.


 

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Lel, like I said I was joking.

The 'speculation' was that Crossroads said the FTG - a S/T technique, would be ineffective against Obito which worked before. Sure Obito's experienced it but tell me again what precautions Obito took so he would never be affected again.

What precautions? Well ill tell you.. He started using long range jutsus, katon, kunai, a vast swath of different ways to hit minato other than a chain (which was a terrible weapon of choice).

Plus, the same trick wouldnt work on him twice, if obito knows that tobirama is an FTG user like minato then he will adjust his strategy accordingly, you forget. Tobirama is a senju, but he has no way to know where obito will appear from, his chakra is invisible in the kamui dimension so I dont see our friend sensing him any time soon.

And Tobirama's explosions last longer than 10 minutes, possibly indefinitely. I'll let him explain.
is near infinite and was only stopped because Obito used his advanced attack to destroy them.

1. Tobirama has no edos to sacrifice for this scenario

2. Obito phases underground, just like he did with danzo's seal. As I said earlier, explosion averted. :cool:

And if Obito even wants to maintain effectiveness; he has to come out (At least partially.) of his Kamui intangibility - which lasts five minutes max, in order to actually pose a threat, which runs him under the risk of getting plastered by Goju Kibakfuda.

Lol & did you not see obito's bijuu sized katon? that plus his kunai/shuriken barrage is all he really needs in order to subdue tobirama from a distance, if things get too hairy then obito can izanagi his kamui eye (however this will spell tobirama's certain death). << This is a last ditch effort though, obito still has uchiha kaenjin to trap tobirama, if tobi tries to escape then obito appears from behind & uses human path..

So many ways to kill this mofo. Lol Tobi's one of my faves, but he aint getting near obito, maybe teen obito without kurama would be a better match. :cool:

Considering Tobirama was able to do so to Obito when he became the fastest Shinobi alive and not only placed an FTG tag, but also spread the tags all over him. this was all with the side of Tobirama that got destroyed.

Oh please dont give me that...Tobi was an edo, he would be paste if he was really alive, lol you think that feat means anything? The bombs go through obito but tobirama is dead. The most you could get out of that situation is a tie but that aint a win.
 

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We getting in depth as heiiiil here Drapshin. I'll refute once I get my hands on a computer.
 

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Obito uses kamui constantly

You have no idea if it takes as much chakra as a simple kage bunshin to use kamui for him. Its an MS jutsu yes but senju dna makes it so the cooldown of KA is 24 hours instead of a decade, & that's when someone isnt a uchiha/senju hybrid.

Senju DNA doesn't make jutsus cost less chakra, it simply makes your body incredibly strong ( Obito doesn't go blind and has amazing chakra and durability ).

Thing is, Tobirama is 100% Senju DNA whereas Obito only has implants of it. Let's not forget Obito's Mokuton is a joke compared to Madara.
 

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Obito gets close and gets tagged with explosives 564646548 times so it could go either way
 

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Senju DNA doesn't make jutsus cost less chakra, it simply makes your body incredibly strong ( Obito doesn't go blind and has amazing chakra and durability ).

lmao having amazing durability doesnt cnage the fact that kamui would take a noticable toll on his body. show me one single scan of obito getting tired or fatigued from overusing kamui then you have an argument.

Thing is, Tobirama is 100% Senju DNA whereas Obito only has implants of it. Let's not forget Obito's Mokuton is a joke compared to Madara.

lmao again, so what? Hashirama's dna >>> Tobirama's dna. Hashi possesses the body of the juubi, the mokuton that goes with it.

& btw uchiha/senju hybrid >>>>>>> senju. Obito is the body & eyes of the sage, tobirama is simply the watered down body.
 

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show me one single scan of obito getting tired or fatigued from overusing kamui then you have an argument.

Show me a scan of Tobirama getting tired from using FTG.

Works both ways.

Absence of evidence =/= Evidence of absence.

Oh and it doesn't matter if Obito knows of moving FTG. He can't react to it.
 
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