Kakuzu vs. Orochimaru

[TheEvilOne]

Kakuzu stomps :|​

Yeah, he can stomp low jounin level shinobies like Genma or Ebisu. But as we've seen even a strong gennin like Naruto can deal with him effortlessly.

 

[Sunagura]

all oro ninjutsu suck, oro only option is the sword lol

 

[blazekev90]

Orochimaru wins this, mid-high difficulty.

Kakuzu isn't as weak as i use thibk he was.

 

[Shura]

Yeah, he can stomp low jounin level shinobies like Genma or Ebisu. But as we've seen even a strong gennin like Naruto can deal with him effortlessly.

As expected. You're always using that Base Naruto defeated him argument. You're basically the same as Sasori haters who say ''Sasori got beaten by an old hag and a little girl''. Smh. :|​

 

[stoikis]

So basically you're saying that a snake that can be 1 shotted by almost any of Kakuzu's techniques will take down Kakuzu? Think again. And Kabuto doesn't know shit about Kakuzu. He was spying on Sasori and as far as we know, Kabuto didn't know shit about the other members.​

Which kakuzu jutsu is strong enough to defeat manda ? or eight branch technique?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

So basically you're saying that a snake that can be 1 shotted by almost any of Kakuzu's techniques

Kakuzu couldn't beat Kakashi with his ninjutsu and you think he can beat Manda?

Laughable.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

As expected. You're always using that Base Naruto defeated him argument. You're basically the same as Sasori haters who say ''Sasori got beaten by an old hag and a little girl''. Smh. :|​

Except Sasori wanted to die whereas Kakuzu got solo'd hard.

 

[Sunagura]

Kakuzu couldn't beat Kakashi with his ninjutsu and you think he can beat Manda?

Laughable.

what do you mean? do u mean if any ninja that cannot beat kakashi with ninjutsu can't beat manda?

 

[Shura]

Kakuzu couldn't beat Kakashi with his ninjutsu and you think he can beat Manda?

Laughable.

Yeah, look. I don't give a shit about your A > B > C logic. Not to mention that your post is laughable. Kakashi who is way smaller, faster and has a Sharingan dodged Atsugai barely. Manda doesn't dodge shit here.​

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Orochimaru stomps. Kakuzu is kinda weak when we compare him to Kage level shinobies.

like Tobirama Lol
but sannin fodders aren't beating Kakuzu
and please don't use the famous "Tsunade is a Hokage" argument because they definitely ran out of strong shinobis (except Itachi who was a spy)

 

[Fodder#4]

Not entirely sure who would be the victor. It all comes down to the Kusanagi blade versus Domu, in my opinion. If Domu can't be beaten, then Kakuzu is likely to be the winner by the end of it all.

 

[Shura]

Say what you want, Enma implied that Kusanagi was a threat.

Enma didn't get hurt while it was in his staff form = Idgaf.​

Moreover, according to the scan you posted, I cannot see Enma blocking a slash from Kusanagi. Actually it's the opposite. Hiruzen rushed at Oro when he didn't even have Kusanagi in his hand.
He managed to reach it in the last second but his grip was weak - so Enma couldn't even hit it properly, since in the next scan, we can see Kusanagi being dropped.

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You cannot compare Enma striking Kusanagi with power that couldn't even be fully used due to a weak grip, with Oro hitting Enma or Kakuzu.

Yeah, look.. Oro parried with Kusanagi against Enma and Enma didn't get hurt. Neither did Kusanagi hurt the Kyuubi Cloak and Domu is as hard as it is. Since Kusanagi didn't hurt Enma, it won't hurt Kakuzu while Domu is activated. Furthermore, Oro has to aim for Kakuzu's heart in order to kill him or

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so Kakuzu can put his heart into his leg, arm, etc. while Oro will be trying to pierce his chest thinking that the heart is there.​

So basically, when he uses it to move, Domu-ed body parts are still immobile and his threads are busy trying to transport him. That means he's still vulnerable to all attacks, heck, even more now, since Domu hardens only skin - threads aren't skin.

lol? First of all, Kakuzu can suffer actual damage only if you pierce his heart since he is basically immune / resistant to physical attacks unless you aim for his heart:

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I'll keep this short, as I need to go out pretty soon, but I felt like sharing something that crossed my mind with you...

Like we know, the insides Kakuzu's body almost solely exist out of the threads of the Jiongu, as seen multiple times, the most notable confirmation being when Izumo and Kotetsu cut him up in the Shinobi World War, revealing his insides, which were simply nothing but bundles of threads. [

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] Now, something that caught my attention recently was an incident in the manga, which occurred after Kakuzu's second 'Death', where he was lying on the ground, lifeless. Like you know, the masks ran up to his body with the intention of merging with it, only to be attacked by an enlarged Choji, who slammed his (Chakra boosted) palms on both of them, smashing even the ground in the process. [

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] However, like we later see, the masks were not even slightly affected by the blow, having been able to finish their mission without problem, mergin with Kakuzu's body. [

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] Now, since that's the case, one might ask himself, how would Kakuzu, who's body is very similar to the bodies of the masks themselves, be affected by an attack of a similar caliber? The most sensible answer would be that he would not be affected much at all. After all, the Jiongu seems to replace almost all organs and insides with the black threads, so how would one manage to damage a person, who's body almost solely consists of those black threads, with a physical attack? Personally, I don't see how it'd be possible. You might as well try to injure a bag of hair, the results would be the same.

Oro can't pierce Domu and hurting Kakuzu by cutting of a few threads isn't a possibility. Kakuzu can use a few threads to move while he can use the other ones to defend himself from Oro. Actually,

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if he gets near him.​

Which kakuzu jutsu is strong enough to defeat manda ? or eight branch technique?

Ever heard of Atsugai or Zukkoku? Or perhaps of Gian?​

 

[Nattana]

Enma didn't get hurt while it was in his staff form = Idgaf.​

Yeah, look.. Oro parried with Kusanagi against Enma and Enma didn't get hurt. Neither did Kusanagi hurt the Kyuubi Cloak and Domu is as hard as it is. Since Kusanagi didn't hurt Enma, it won't hurt Kakuzu while Domu is activated. Furthermore, Oro has to aim for Kakuzu's heart in order to kill him or

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and

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. Unfortunately for Oro,

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so Kakuzu can put his heart into his leg, arm, etc. while Oro will be trying to pierce his chest thinking that the heart is there.​

lol? First of all, Kakuzu can suffer actual damage only if you pierce his heart since he is basically immune / resistant to physical attacks unless you aim for his heart:


Oro can't pierce Domu and hurting Kakuzu by cutting of a few threads isn't a possibility. Kakuzu can use a few threads to move while he can use the other ones to defend himself from Oro. Actually,

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if he gets near him.​

Ever heard of Atsugai or Zukkoku? Or perhaps of Gian?​

Still trying to figure out what 4tailed Kyuubi has to do with Domu in terms of defense. You base your statement on what?

And the jutsu you mentioned? Seriously, 8branches laughs at it. It's the ultimate jutsu obtainable by the user of White Snake powers. It's big enough not to even bother and its regeneration abilities are more than enough to withstand and recover from anything Kakuzu can throw at him.

 

[Shura]

Still trying to figure out what 4tailed Kyuubi has to do with Domu in terms of defense. You base your statement on what?

Did you read the quote about Domu that I posted..?​

And the jutsu you mentioned? Seriously, 8branches laughs at it. It's the ultimate jutsu obtainable by the user of White Snake powers. It's big enough not to even bother and its regeneration abilities are more than enough to withstand and recover from anything Kakuzu can throw at him.

What? The Hydra ain't shit. The

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. Zukkoku can burn it. However, it would be best if Kakuzu uses the Raiton Ghost against it for two reasons:

1) It has the killing and piercing power that is needed to take down the Hydra's heads:

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In the databook, it is stated that Gian is an extremely sharp lightning bolt [

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2) It can hit all the heads at once since Gian can split into multiple lightnings to slay more targets:

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Kakuzu's capabilities with Raiton: Gian are far underrated by many members on NB currently. The potential of this B-ranked jutsu was equal to that of Kakashi using TWO Raikiri's, why would Kakashi need to use 2 Raikiri's against a B-ranked Raiton Jutsu? Personally I believe rank placement on all of Kakuzu's techniques are incorrect being "B-ranked" anyhow this is getting off-topic.

Here Kakashi had to use two Raikiri's (S-rank) to counter Kakuzu's Raiton: Gian; a B-rank technique.

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Kakashi then praises Kakuzu on how skilled he is in general, but referred heavily to how he used his previously displayed Raiton technique: Gian:

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I want you guys to pay attention to the boxed in words: High Caliber, Perfectly, and Lightning. All fitting words, in which will furthermore prove that Kakuzu's Raiton: Gian ability shouldn't be underestimated like it is now. Kakashi had admitted that Kakuzu mastered, and performed a high caliber Raiton-based technique (Raiton: Gian), he later in his praising sentence goes on about stating that in order to have performed such a high caliber jutsu Kakuzu must have mastered Raiton perfectly.

So if Kakuzu had mastered his Raiton nature perfectly, and was able to execute Raiton: Gian to be able to multiply itself to attack multiple enemies present (Shikamaru, and Choji) why exactly could he not execute more than two? I believe Kakuzu could emit a great amount of Raiton: Gian against a single, and/or multiple opponent(s). Take a look at this Databook Page:

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Not only does the picture above support the idea of Raiton: Gian multiplying into many spear-like currents, but it basically blatantly hints to the public that it is perfectly capable of doing such a feat. Pay attention to the underlined words: Multiple, and Convergence.

Definition of multiple (adj)
1) Involving several things: involving or including several things, people, or parts
2) Number divisible by another: a number that can be divided exactly by a particular smaller number
Synonyms: manifold, numerous, many, several, various, compound

I'll be using the mathematical definition for convergence due to that fact that I'm talking about multiplying Raiton: Gian.

Definition of converged (verb)
Mathematics
1) (of a sequence) to have values eventually arbitrarily close to some number; to have a finite limit.
2) (of an infinite series) to have a finite sum; to have a sequence of partial sums that converges.
3) (of an improper integral) to have a finite value.

Now yes, it is correct that Raiton: Gian has a finite (limit) however, it isn't measurable due to the dependency of the amount of opponents Kakuzu must be facing in order to determine the limit of Raiton: Gian. Kakuzu only multiplied Raiton: Gian by two because Shikamaru, and Choji were the only targets, and Ino was behind a tree so she wasn't in his line of sight.

In conclusion it is assured that however, many opponents approach Kakuzu Raiton: Gian would multiply, and instantly kill them all. Due to the limit of the opponents not being infinite (which is impossible) Raiton: Gian would strike them all due to its non-measurable, but finite limitations.

 

[Nattana]

Did you read the quote about Domu that I posted..?​

What? The Hydra ain't shit. The

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. Zukkoku can burn it. However, it would be best if Kakuzu uses the Raiton Ghost against it for two reasons:

1) It has the killing and piercing power that is needed to take down the Hydra's heads:


2) It can hit all the heads at once since Gian can split into multiple lightnings to slay more targets:

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Seriously? B-rank Raiton that wasn't even as big as a human would hurt 8branches? It could MAYBE break a fang. Maybe.
About Domu. There is absolutely 0 evidence of Domu being tougher than 4tailed Kyuubi. And Enma, who has known Orochimaru for many, many years and knows what Kusanagi is capable of stated himself that it's a threat. About Enma parrying - I've already proven that it wasn't even parrying.

Anyway, I stand by Oro, you stand by Kakuzu. It's ok, I respect that. We are not gonna convince one another.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah, look. I don't give a shit about your A > B > C logic. Not to mention that your post is laughable. Kakashi who is way smaller, faster and has a Sharingan dodged Atsugai barely. Manda doesn't dodge shit here.​

A>B>C logic works -IN DURABILITY-.

If Naruto tanked Juubi's laser and Juubi's laser > Raikiri, then Naruto tanks Raikiri. Simple as that.

Kakuzu's ninjutsu won't do shi t to either Oro or Manda.

 

[Optimistic]

Orochimaru takes this.

 

[Red Slayer]

No, he doesn't. Lol

Orochimaru will kill and eat Kakuzu))))

 

[Shinozgr8]

I know Orochimaru takes this match up. And I hope he showcases some new techs in the following chapters to make him even more op.

Fact: Kakuzu has nothing that can even potentially kill Orochimaru. While on the other hand, Orochimaru has techs that could possibly kill Kakuzu. That said Oro>Kakuzu

 

[Zexion~]

Kusunagi has alraedy shown that its ineffective against diamond, just saying U_U


Kakuzu wins, Oro eventually runs out of Body replacement, or gets his heart ripped out before he can even implement it