Hashirama overrate

[H a n]

Madara finally stronger because he has some of Hashirama stuff? I still think he can beat him. Just like Naruto, Hashirama was never able to go all out against his rival due to the fact that they were friends. Naruto is the same way when it comes to Sasuke.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Madara finally stronger because he has some of Hashirama stuff? I still think he can beat him. Just like Naruto, Hashirama was never able to go all out against his rival due to the fact that they were friends. Naruto is the same way when it comes to Sasuke.

Madara basically has everything.

Sensory - Sensed Hashirama coming his way.

Wood Release - Even up to Wood Dragon that rivals his PS.

Flower Tree World - He has it.

Possibly Hermit Mode - Don't know yet.

What he does not have:

ShinsuuSenju - Not this one.

Gates of Gods - Not this either.

Hermit Mode - Maybe/Maybe not.

+ His arsenal.

 

[KidGamer65]

WTF, wasting my time. We were debating about Edo Madara > Hashirama at first.

I asked you a question, yet no reply.

What is that damn ShinsuuSenju gonna help? If he uses Gate, go under a Wood.

And your logic is so flawed... Can't even tell if serious.

And if I awaken a Sharingan and give it to someone else, is the other a guy the successor?

WTF, when does this crazy logic of yours end? Dude. Stahp.

Since you are too dense to get it, I'll explain it to you.

If Madara (Edo) can't defeat Edo Hashirama in battle and has to outlast him, then how the hell is he going to be stronger than alive Hashirama, who has the same exact abilities as Edo Hashirama....oh wait, he isn't.

Shinsuusenju busts open his PS and leaves Madara unable to beat Hashirama thus he has to outlast him with his unlimited stamina. That means that Hashirama>Edo Madara. Unless you believe MS Obito is stronger than EMS Madara w/ Kurama since the latter has no counter for Kamui. Why are even mentioning gates here when I never said they'd be used?

Except we are referring to the Rinnegan here pal, not the Sharingan. When are you actually going to practice what you preach about "going by feats"? Cause you don't do it now, and that is as clear as day.

Going by manga feats is crazy logic now? Sigh....you people amuse me to no end.

Hashirama is stronger than Madara, alive or Edo.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Since you are too dense to get it, I'll explain it to you.

If Madara (Edo) can't defeat Edo Hashirama in battle and has to outlast him, then how the hell is he going to be stronger than alive Hashirama, who has the same exact abilities as Edo Hashirama....oh wait, he isn't.

Shinsuusenju busts open his PS and leaves Madara unable to beat Hashirama thus he has to outlast him with his unlimited stamina. That means that Hashirama>Edo Madara. Unless you believe MS Obito is stronger than EMS Madara w/ Kurama since the latter has no counter for Kamui. Why are even mentioning gates here when I never said they'd be used?

Except we are referring to the Rinnegan here pal, not the Sharingan. When are you actually going to practice what you preach about "going by feats"? Cause you don't do it now, and that is as clear as day.

Going by manga feats is crazy logic now? Sigh....you people amuse me to no end.

Hashirama is stronger than Madara, alive or Edo.

Busts his PS open?

No problem. Take a new one.

I'm still waiting for the actual explanation, how Edo Madara is even sealed?

Gate is not going to help if he has Wood.

 

[KidGamer65]

Busts his PS open?

No problem. Take a new one.

I'm still waiting for the actual explanation, how Edo Madara is even sealed?

Gate is not going to help if he has Wood.

He makes a new one?

Hashirama breaks it open again.

I'm still waiting for how Edo Madara beats Hashirama.

What do you even mean by "Gate isn't going to help if he has wood"? Don't even know why you are still asking me this question even though its been answered, twice now.

-Alive Hashirama would get outlasted by Edo Madara since he has no sealing feats.

-Edo Hashirama would pound Madara for all eternity since Madara isn't strong enough to seal and he can't outlast Hashirama either. Hashirama has no sealing feats as well.

That's all assuming that Myoujinmoun won't work, which is what will depend on your explanation.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

He makes a new one?

Hashirama breaks it open again.

I'm still waiting for how Edo Madara beats Hashirama.

What do you even mean by "Gate isn't going to help if he has wood"? Don't even know why you are still asking me this question even though its been answered, twice now.

-Alive Hashirama would get outlasted by Edo Madara since he has no sealing feats.

-Edo Hashirama would pound Madara for all eternity since Madara isn't strong enough to seal and he can't outlast Hashirama either. Hashirama has no sealing feats as well.

That's all assuming that Myoujinmoun won't work, which is what will depend on your explanation.

I have no interest in Edo Madara VS Edo Hashirama.

Since my point was Edo Madara > Hashirama to begin with, I'm off.

 

[KidGamer65]

I have no interest in Edo Madara VS Edo Hashirama.

Since my point was Edo Madara > Hashirama to begin with, I'm off.

Me proving that Edo Madara has to outlast Hashirama to beat him means that Hashirama > Edo Madara. Do you even know what > means? It refers to strength, not the victor of a fight. Hashirama is still stronger than Edo Madara. Deal with it.

Not to mention I said that Hashirama can take this by pinning him via Myoujinmon and you have yet to give a sufficient counter. I can't say I'm surprised though.

 

[-immortal-]

that fact that Madara can just Solo hashi at the Begin of the Fight again
is weird that People are forgetting that Genjutsu solos once again

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Me proving that Edo Madara has to outlast Hashirama to beat him means that Hashirama > Edo Madara. Do you even know what > means? It refers to strength, not the victor of a fight. Hashirama is still stronger than Edo Madara. Deal with it.

Not to mention I said that Hashirama can take this by pinning him via Myoujinmon and you have yet to give a sufficient counter. I can't say I'm surprised though.

You said this earlier:

Why are even mentioning gates here when I never said they'd be used?

Are you denying this?

I just told you. He goes under a Wood. Myoujinmon is not a factor here pal.

Whether you like it or not, Madara wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

You said this earlier:



Are you denying this?

I just told you. He goes under a Wood. Myoujinmon is not a factor here pal.

Whether you like it or not, Madara wins.

Like I said...

Yeah, I decided to bring it up since you aren't being clear enough on how he counters it.

What do you mean he goes under a wood? Elaborate Try speaking with scans instead of incomplete, vague ideas. How hard can that be? How am I supposed to know what the hell you are saying if you say "he goes under a wood" every time I ask for an explanation?

I don't care if Madara wins or not. My only goal is to prove that Hashirama is stronger than Madara, which is what I have done. You have shown that alive Hashirama loses in a fight cause he can't seal, not that Madara can overpower and defeat him, which is what you and Madara's other fans argued when you all claimed that he beats Hashirama low-mid diff. Having to outlast someone cause you are too weak to overpower them isn't a low-mid diff fight.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Like I said...

Yeah, I decided to bring it up since you aren't being clear enough on how he counters it.

What do you mean he goes under a wood? Elaborate Try speaking with scans instead of incomplete, vague ideas. How hard can that be? How am I supposed to know what the hell you are saying if you say "he goes under a wood" every time I ask for an explanation?

I don't care if Madara wins or not. My only goal is to prove that Hashirama is stronger than Madara, which is what I have done. You have shown that alive Hashirama loses in a fight cause he can't seal, not that Madara can overpower and defeat him, which is what you and Madara's other fans argued when you all claimed that he beats Hashirama low-mid diff. Having to outlast someone cause you are too weak to overpower them isn't a low-mid diff fight.

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This way he goes under a wood.

 

[KidGamer65]

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This way he goes under a wood.

How is he going to merge with Mokuton when he is pinned on the ground by the gate?

 

[UchihaNagashi]

How is he going to merge with Mokuton when he is pinned on the ground by the gate?

How is he not? Myojinmun does not surpress Chakra.

Yamato was able to do it. And there is no handseals recquired to do this.

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[KidGamer65]

How is he not? Myojinmun does not surpress Chakra.

Yamato was able to do it. And there is no handseals recquired to do this.

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Ok, I give you this one. Edo Madara can beat Hashirama (alive) but not because he is stronger, only because he can't seal, that much is a fact.

Madara wins by attrition.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Ok, I give you this one. Edo Madara can beat Hashirama (alive) but not because he is stronger, only because he can't seal, that much is a fact.

Madara wins by attrition.

Finally.

I'm off now.

 

[Naijakid]

Though Madara is tryna Kick Hashirama's ass.. but is failing mad hard =D


awww the Madara fanboy mad cause Madara can't even hurt a non-full powered Hashirama.



Though also you say its a genjutsu..... yet Madara still bears the scar where Hashirama stabbed him ^_^.. Got fodderized by a sword, pathetic.

Oh you forgot wood cloneXDXD

 

[Naijakid]

I have no interest in Edo Madara VS Edo Hashirama.

Since my point was Edo Madara > Hashirama to begin with, I'm off.

You lose buahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Naijakid]

that fact that Madara can just Solo hashi at the Begin of the Fight again
is weird that People are forgetting that Genjutsu solos once again

Sasuke is fodder compare to Naruto
Madara is fodder compare to Hashirama


Uchiha fanboys are so mad that their strong men are fodders in NatureXDXDXD

 

[Dark Artist]

totally agree

he is the most overrated character in Naruto

people think his buddha thing is unbeatable and we saw how it got destryoed like a doll

Edo Madara shits on Hashirama edo or alive

even the old man the third hokage sealed edo hashirama with a clone

alot of wood riders will disagree though but who gives a crap about their wanking lol

 

[shelke]

Never liked his stupid grin. Makes me want to give my neighbour's baby a face-full of knuckles.