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i will post facts why Meteor > Shinsuusenju:
now i am gonna explain this in full detail. so please read the whole and try to understand. any problems with understanding send it to my visitor messages.


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Size Of Meteor And ShinSūsenju

a lot of people clearly don't know what a meteor looks like. they think this rock is a meteor:
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that rock is the remains of the meteor after hitting the landscape. so that cannot be count as an actual meteor because ti looks nothing like the meteor that madara pulled down from the sky.

OK now lets compare both of them in size. as you can see right here:
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look at the kyuubi and PS in comparison to the buddah. they look really small. but lets think again. kyuubi and PS is only as big as a 1 mountain, but lets look how big the meteor is compared to a mountain.
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if you count the mountains we see from this scan, here is about 20 mountains. now of course we cant see the whole meteor from this pic, but we can tell that is bigger than even more than 20 mountains combined together.

also if you have't noticed this already. when the meteor hit the ground, it size was so great that you can clouds going around it:
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if you remove the second meteor, one meteor is basically having clouds going around it, where the buddah couldn't reach that much level at all. because if we look at the buddah, we cant see clouds going around it, but the meteor after hitting the ground we basically saw clouds going around it.

people will say this: ''the meteor came from the sky, so it is gonna have clouds going around'', and i will respond that you can see the ninjas after seeing the 2 meteors moving due to the meteor already hitting the ground.


The Scale, Power, Strength Of The Meteor And ShinSūsenju

before people say that madara said that his full power is PS. madara's best jutsu is PS because its giving him offensive and defensive at the same, while the meteor is only big ass landscape devastator.

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now that scan just shows you how much power the meteor really has. the fact that HQ who are countries and killometers away from gaara's division managed to feel the devastation of the meteor, and their jar was basically going into shapes. that alone shows how much scale and devastation the meteor managed to pull of when its used once.

this is the amount of damage the ShinSūsenju has caused:
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it created a valley which is nowhere this scale that the meteor created:
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although we cant see the whole landscape, but we can estimate that its bigger than the valley, considering that the meteor was basically told to have the power to destroy a landscape.


Note:i would kie to also say that the buddah wont be able to survive the impact of the meteor.

-meteor is bigger than the buddah in terms of size.
-the faster the meteor falls, the bigger the imapct will cause, due to heavy weight would fall fast in the air causing immense destruction.
-the scale and power of the meteor were very great enough to destroy all of the landscape.
-the 1000 arms wont be able to catch nor destroy the meteor due to its hardness of huge rocks combined together to form a big ass rock.

:sweat: ok now that i have explained in full detail why the meteor > the buddah. any disagreement that is fine, but use logical reasons and manga scans.


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Again, I see a lot of opinions and theoreticals, but no scans. Where is your proof that this is possible? I'll wait.




I don't care for your words at all, unless you can back them up.

Meteor Shower and Chou Shinra Tensei same size ---->

Wood Dragon ------>

King of Hell -----> Rinnegan Ability

Tree Flower World ----->

Backed up.
 

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Again, I see a lot of opinions and theoreticals, but no scans. Where is your proof that this is possible? I'll wait.




I don't care for your words at all, unless you can back them up.
not even attacking madara well he has Told to stop him..
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if hashi can beat madara ..why hasn't he then? madara was Simply playing all those chaps..if you didn't see that..please re-read manga..or Join ImaRetard.com
 

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no Mokuton

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or Budha Can Fck madara up..why are you denying even the fact madara can Spam meteors From the Heaven called sky :blush:

What is that scan supposed to prove? Anyway, Buddha can defeat Madara as he has nothing to beat it.

Meteor Spam? First of all Madara can't produce meteors quick enough to classify as spam, second of all. Firing Meteors at Buddha is like throwing rocks at a wall and expecting it to fall down. Buddha dwarfs the Meteor so it will easily take care of it, and anymore that fall down, or it can just bust Susanoo open rendering this Meteor nonsense null and void.
 

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What is that scan supposed to prove? Anyway, Buddha can defeat Madara as he has nothing to beat it.

Meteor Spam? First of all Madara can't produce meteors quick enough to classify as spam, second of all. Firing Meteors at Buddha is like throwing rocks at a wall and expecting it to fall down. Buddha dwarfs the Meteor so it will easily take care of it, and anymore that fall down, or it can just bust Susanoo open rendering this Meteor nonsense null and void.

read this

i will post facts why Meteor > Shinsuusenju:

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Meteor Shower and Chou Shinra Tensei same size ---->

Wood Dragon ------>

King of Hell -----> Rinnegan Ability

Tree Flower World ----->

Backed up.
I find it rather funny, how you showed me the "Wood Dragon" techinque, which is something he would have not been able to do without Hashirama's DNA. And all you did was show me images of the techiques, you did not show me how that would be able to defeat Hashirama, who was said by Madara, to be able to stop him.

Again, I'll wait.
 

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and the manga stated Madara can use all of the rinnegan feats as stated by Konan and Madara himself.
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and madara has no feats with the 6 paths techniques which means that they arent included.
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he taught obito the ability to control foreign bodies hence why he said to use the black rods in the rikudo no jutsu.
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if you wanna give Hashirama FTW because Madara showed it then i will give Madara rinnegan feats because Nagato showed it.
im giving hashirama the flower world because he actually used it.

OMG. stop denying the manga. Tsunade only saw mokuton:
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she didn't say anything about the scale that Hashirama has equal to.
she saw the scale of madaras jutsu and recognized it as hashiramas jutsu. that means that hashirama has the off-panel feat of using the flower world.
 

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What is that scan supposed to prove? Anyway, Buddha can defeat Madara as he has nothing to beat it.

Meteor Spam? First of all Madara can't produce meteors quick enough to classify as spam, second of all. Firing Meteors at Buddha is like throwing rocks at a wall and expecting it to fall down. Buddha dwarfs the Meteor so it will easily take care of it, and anymore that fall down, or it can just bust Susanoo open rendering this Meteor nonsense null and void.

Wrong.

When the second meteor came, Madara . + It came the same and perfect time as the other one.

So he brought those two at the same time.

And he intended to try out . He wanted more people around. That's why he didn't spam.
 
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why are people Denying so many Manga facts..that edo maddy > edo hashi

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read this



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I've read that pile of horseshit already. There's already a scan that shits on his whole post.

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Meteor was already canonically shown to be smaller than PS. Only half its size. He'll try and say its a fragment of the meteor, even though it only has a crack going down the middle of it, which doesn't affect height at all.
 

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I find it rather funny, how you showed me the "Wood Dragon" techinque, which is something he would have not been able to do without Hashirama's DNA. And all you did was show me images of the techiques, you did not show me how that would be able to defeat Hashirama, who was said by Madara, to be able to stop him.

Again, I'll wait.

True.

But at the same time he told them PS was his full power, even though he had Wood Release in his cards?

And he's trying out Hermit Mode.

That's not gonna work. Manga has contradicted itself in the past already (Susano'o).
 

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What is that scan supposed to prove? Anyway, Buddha can defeat Madara as he has nothing to beat it.

Meteor Spam? First of all Madara can't produce meteors quick enough to classify as spam, second of all. Firing Meteors at Buddha is like throwing rocks at a wall and expecting it to fall down. Buddha dwarfs the Meteor so it will easily take care of it, and anymore that fall down, or it can just bust Susanoo open rendering this Meteor nonsense null and void.
Exactly. By the time he gathers enough energy to bring down a second one, Hashirama would have already retaliated. But of course these fanboys cannot see that. Pitiful.


not even attacking madara well he has Told to stop him..
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if hashi can beat madara ..why hasn't he then? madara was Simply playing all those chaps..if you didn't see that..please re-read manga..or Join ImaRetard.com
Their battle is ongoing, who's to say he won't? I think you should take your own advice. You're so asinine.
 

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Wrong.

When the second meteor came, Madara . + It came the same and perfect time as the other one.

So he brought those two at the same time.

And he intended to try out .

If he brought them at the same time, then they would have appeared at the same time. He brought one first and the other one right after Onoki and Gaara blocked the first one.

He decided to try Mokuton out after seeing that they survived the meteors, unless you think he knew they'd survive the first one, which is ridiculous given he has zero knowledge on their abilities.
 

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and madara has no feats with the 6 paths techniques which means that they arent included.

he taught obito the ability to control foreign bodies hence why he said to use the black rods in the rikudo no jutsu.
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im giving hashirama the flower world because he actually used it.


she saw the scale of madaras jutsu and recognized it as hashiramas jutsu. that means that hashirama has the off-panel feat of using the flower world.

and i am giving Madara rinnegan feats because Nagato used it just like how you are giving Hashirama feat of using Mokuton techniques he hasn't shown through Madara + Yamato + Danzo.

you rely on what Hashirama has been hyped to do and you say its feat when he hasn't shown it so the same will apply for Madara as well.

i am not arguing anymore considering you spew the BS over and over. this is why you shouldn't be taken serious.

i will leave Kishi words:

''All people, even the strongest ones, have weaknesses, however, Madara does not.''

Hashirama cannot beat someone who has no weakness. Problem, take it up with Kishimoto for making Madara stronger than your boyfriend.
 

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Lol..still waiting for Hashi To beat Madara
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If he brought them at the same time, then they would have appeared at the same time. He brought one first and the other one right after Onoki and Gaara blocked the first one.

He decided to try Mokuton out after seeing that they survived the meteors, unless you think he knew they'd survive the first one, which is ridiculous given he has zero knowledge on their abilities.


What? He knew Onoki pretty well. He just said he had gotten better.

And it did. If he had done them at different time, where is the scan? There is none.

Add that, he had no Susano'o activated.
 
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I've read that pile of horseshit already. There's already a scan that shits on his whole post.

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Meteor was already canonically shown to be smaller than PS. Only half its size. He'll try and say its a fragment of the meteor, even though it only has a crack going down the middle of it, which doesn't affect height at all.

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Meteor > Shinsuusenju
 
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