[Theory] EMS Application of Amaterasu and Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi

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Many seem to wonder how exactly Sasuke has been able to utilize Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi without utilization of Amaterasu, since acquiring the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. I believe that he actually has been, but simply, Amaterasu now exists in his right eye as well as his left eye.

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Yes, he has Amaterasu within both of his eyes, why you ask? Well, Itachi's Amaterasu resides within his right eye.

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Those eyes, as well as their power, now reside within Sasuke.

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Since obtaining Itachi's eyes, Sasuke has progressively, and silently, acquired use of Amaterasu within both of his eyes, which allows him to summon the flames of Amaterasu and utilize Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi simultaneously within his right eye and to whatever level he deems fit.

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I also believe that this would mean that he will eventually acquire use of Itachi's Tsukuyomi within his left eye once he grows more accustomed to using Itachi's Mangekyo.
 
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Double amaterasu ftw.Imagine him using amaterasu from both his eyes at the same time,he'll be like a living shotgun.
 

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If he has AMaterasu in both eyes doesn't that mean when we see it coming from one eye it's only at half strength?
 

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This is actually something I have been waiting for. Considering that he doesn't have as strong genjutsu as Itachi had, and as Shisui had that in both eyes. I was waiting for Sasuke to actually get Amaterasu in both of his eyes, one to manipulate it and other to just purely foce burn. We shall see what the future brings and if he in fact could use both eyes the same times.

I like your theory.
 

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Uhhh no.

Itachi only sealed his Amatersu in Sasuke so that when Obito meets Sasuke, Itachi's MS will automatically activate to attack Obito. It is no longer within Sasuke meaning Sasuke awakened his own Amatersu and not by Itachi.

Sasuke already obtained Tsukuyomi which is within his right eye as shown against Killer Bee.
 

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If he has AMaterasu in both eyes doesn't that mean when we see it coming from one eye it's only at half strength?

I'm not sure if he can use both eyes at the same time as each require concentrating chakra to a specific eye, but if he can, yes, essentially.

Uhhh no.

Itachi only sealed his Amatersu in Sasuke so that when Obito meets Sasuke, Itachi's MS will automatically activate to attack Obito. It is no longer within Sasuke meaning Sasuke awakened his own Amatersu and not by Itachi.

Sasuke already obtained Tsukuyomi which is within his right eye as shown against Killer Bee.

Not what I'm referring to. I've argued against the notion you're accusing me of implicating multiple times, actually.

I'm actually referring to Sasuke obtaining Itachi's Amaterasu within his right eye after Itachi's eyes were transplanted, which granted him the ability to use Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi without need of his Amaterasu residing in his left eye. Which was a former hindrance of the technique.
 
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Not what I'm referring to. I've argued against the notion you're accusing me of implicating multiple times, actually.

I'm actually referring to Sasuke obtaining Itachi's Amaterasu within his right eye after Itachi's eyes were transplanted, which granted him the ability to use Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi without need of his Amaterasu residing in his left eye. Which was a former hindrance of the technique.

Itachi's amatersu has never granted Sasuke the ability to use enton. Sasuke obtained it himself.
 

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Itachi's amatersu has never granted Sasuke the ability to use enton. Sasuke obtained it himself.

Apologies, I misused my words there. What I'm trying to say is that Sasuke's technique, Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi, can now be used freely as Itachi's Amaterasu now resides within the same eye, allowing him to form the flames with Itachi's Amaterasu and manipulate them with his own Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi in one eye, making his jutsu much more effective.
 

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sasuke had amaterasu in both eyes before he got EMS
 

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Sasuke never used his Right eye to creat Amaterasu....

Sasuke uses his Left eye to creat it

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After EMS
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& Right eye to control it

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...Sasuke is controlling it with his right eye in u r scan..


Amaterasu & Enton aren't dif from each other Enton release is nothing but controling Amaterasu

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Sasuke never used his Right eye to creat Amaterasu....

Sasuke uses his Left eye to creat it

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After EMS
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& Right eye to control it

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...Sasuke is controlling it with his right eye in u r scan..


Amaterasu & Enton aren't dif from each other Enton release is nothing but controling Amaterasu

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He's used the technique on several occasions without ever using his left eye at all. Look at Shii's explanation.

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Now look at both instances Sasuke has used Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi on the battle field. He never uses his left eye to create the black flames, and simply, uses both simultaneously, without ever needing to summon the black flames with his left eye. [ ] [ ]
 

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Interesting theory, but I don't think you're correct.

I'm siding with BlinkST's theory because I don't think its a coincidence that he only ever uses Amaterasu from his left eye.



This thread will attempt to explain the relationship between the two jutsu, and why they are separate.

I believe initially, Kishimoto might not have been sure about what to do with Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi. Is it the power to change the chakra form of the flames?
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If so, doesn't that create the issue of such a power being virtually useless without the other eye?

It's possible Kishimoto is now a little more decided on what Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi is intended to be, and we can use Obito as groundwork.

Obito's Mangekyo has a power that's referred to as the same thing by two different people: Kamui. It was confusing, because Kamui was first announced as this ocular space-time jutsu that sends things away to a dimension. It can even cause lethal damage depending on where and when the barrier is cut off.
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Yet, here Obito comes along with a power that has mainly to do with his body. Whenever something touches him, the part that would have been making contact gets sent into his personal dimension, making it seem as he was a ghost.
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We also know he can send things away to his dimension by touching them.
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Two powers that are connected, but work very differently.

I believe this is the direction Kishimoto has decided to take with Amaterasu and Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi. First of all, Amaterasu is the Shinto goddess of the sun, and the highest god, since she was given the right to rule the high plain of heaven by her father, Izanagi.

Kagu-Tsuchi on the other hand is recognized as the god of fire, but his name actually refers to Earth, since fire is also associated with wood. His name also has to do with mt. Kagu, where the famous story of Amaterasu retreating into the cave took place. Even though Izanagi killed Kagu-Tsuchi for burning Izanami to death, he later rekindled on mt. Atago.

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Getting back to the point, what is Amaterasu? Amaterasu is the ocular power to ignite the black fire where a person looks. In other words, like "Kakashi's" Kamui.
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However, Amaterasu is notoriously lacking in offense. Even though it is persistent, the flames don't carry much physical impact like most jutsu would, and as a result need to do damage by burning.


Now, what is Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi? I believe Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi is intended to be the power to produce the flames where someone or their chakra touches. In other words, Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi is more closer to "Obito's" Kamui: a body-related power.

I believe it's not a case where the Susanoo itself "produces" the flames, but rather, Sasuke's own doing, since Susanoo is his chakra.
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While Amaterasu is also "missing" the chakra manipulation aspect, Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi becomes a little more difficult to survive due to the fact that it can cut and burn. The powers are more or less like Obito's Kamui: one has accuracy in exchange for less power [Amaterasu; Obito]. The other has power in exchange for accuracy [Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi; Kakashi].
 

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Interesting theory, but I don't think you're correct.

I'm siding with BlinkST's theory because I don't think its a coincidence that he only ever uses Amaterasu from his left eye.


Interesting, but mine further holds in line with what description we've been given of Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi, and holds basis considering that Itachi's eyes have been transferred. Sasuke preferring to use Amaterasu in his left eye, even though I believe he's only had access to it since arriving at the battlefield after his fight with Kabuto, meaning there's a sample size of one use, doesn't really discredit my theory.

EDIT: Although I should include that it's basically the same effect as what Blink is proposing, he no longer needs to focus his eye on the target, as he can manipulate and summon the flames simultaneously, allowing him to create the flames around his body or anywhere near him at all times.
 
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