Suicide forest in Japan

[Gokillerz]

Is it aokigahara?

 

[Tipsyglam]

why would they just burn that forest so that no one will attempt. how come japanese people even let their people do those kind of acts. suicide is a freakin sin.

 

[Professor Finesser]

why would they just burn that forest so that no one will attempt. how come japanese people even let their people do those kind of acts. suicide is a freakin sin.

That would be like taking the rope away from a suicidal person and just saying "No", your logic is stupid.

 

[Trollasaur]

Vice has much worse vids

 

[Tipsyglam]

That would be like taking the rope away from a suicidal person and just saying "No", your logic is stupid.

well, thats my point. and it's not called the logic of stupidity. I have feeling your brain is tinier than infant, so you mean once a person is planning to end it's life. then that's it? that it ends there? you know that, people can't be persuade for suicide. Majority of the people who plans to suicide abruptly revision their mind and wouldn't tried on attempting self slaughtering theres always a hope in humanity decision when it comes to suicide decisions.

so due to this forest being advertised as the suicidal forest. there are much possibilities that the tendency of society will encourage people to privately kill themselve by traveling going into this forest for their future tomb? The forest is a sinful place, and I find it stupid how japanese even bragging it for how they have it as a legend due to their civilians who engaged self-slaughtering in the exact same place. my point here is, letting that forest live for a VIP suicidal room is fcked up logic.

 

[BlacLord™]

Yeah, knew about that during the times when Japan had the highest suicide rate in the world.

 

[shelke]

Why are you people being so ridiculous, childish, and judgmental? Life is a personal commodity. If someone wants to end it and embrace death in lieu of complicating their life further, there shouldn't be any sin or wrong rubbish associated with it. Not all problems can be solved, not all people succeed in life.

Life is basically a perpetual boring cycle, till you meet the greatest equalizer. I think the people who know they have met the dead ends and want to end it sooner, are more logical than those who hopelessly cling to it. On the other hand, Japan has the highest suicide rates in the world, followed by England, if I am not mistaken. The people here are extremely polite though. I wonder why that is the case.

 

[Micho22]

They shoud make a movie based on this forest
Woud be very cool

 

[Professor Finesser]

well, thats my point. and it's not called the logic of stupidity. I have feeling your brain is tinier than infant, so you mean once a person is planning to end it's life. then that's it? that it ends there? you know that, people can't be persuade for suicide. Majority of the people who plans to suicide abruptly revision their mind and wouldn't tried on attempting self slaughtering theres always a hope in humanity decision when it comes to suicide decisions.

so due to this forest being advertised as the suicidal forest. there are much possibilities that the tendency of society will encourage people to privately kill themselve by traveling going into this forest for their future tomb? The forest is a sinful place, and I find it stupid how japanese even bragging it for how they have it as a legend due to their civilians who engaged self-slaughtering in the exact same place. my point here is, letting that forest live for a VIP suicidal room is fcked up logic.

Ughh you don't know what the **** you're talking about like most of the people on this site. If a person really wants to end their life they will do it, don't compare yourself to the people in this world who face real problems in life, who face real hard times, you're probably just waiting for life to kick your ass at 18.

And by the way judging by your lack of English, I can come to the conclusion that your brain is in fact the size of a toddler.

 

[Rorasa]

This looks like an amusing place to visit.

 

[Professor Finesser]

They shoud make a movie based on this forest
Woud be very cool

Is a documentary not good enough?

 

[Revyy]

well, thats my point. and it's not called the logic of stupidity. I have feeling your brain is tinier than infant, so you mean once a person is planning to end it's life. then that's it? that it ends there? you know that, people can't be persuade for suicide. Majority of the people who plans to suicide abruptly revision their mind and wouldn't tried on attempting self slaughtering theres always a hope in humanity decision when it comes to suicide decisions.

so due to this forest being advertised as the suicidal forest. there are much possibilities that the tendency of society will encourage people to privately kill themselve by traveling going into this forest for their future tomb? The forest is a sinful place, and I find it stupid how japanese even bragging it for how they have it as a legend due to their civilians who engaged self-slaughtering in the exact same place. my point here is, letting that forest live for a VIP suicidal room is fcked up logic.

You clearly don't understand this. So sit down and let me tell you to your first paragraph, you have no idea what you're talking about. Firstly when a person wants to end their life, It's pretty final. You can TRY to persuade them and sure things might be okay for a time, but in the end those thoughts will always be there and again If they have that chance they will take it. I know this firsthand on several occasions. Please tell me how hope in humanity could prevail, when in reality humanity caused this in the first place? The pressure in other countries are super high specially Asian countries. Most people end their life because they are so beyond stressed. Do you know the pressure out on Males in these countries? You need to consider these things when talking about suicide. To further prove my point here's an example.

Also to bring in another point there are these 2 bridges I live near. They are the Y bridge and the High Bridge. The High Bridge is a major bride that connects downtown Akron and It's pretty much the only way to get into town. Many years ago It used to be a train track, a train crashed and killed 250 people below It yet we let the bridge stand, Hundreds of people throw themselves off It yet we let It stand. Why? It's a major bridge we can't take It down . The Y bridge has had even more people kill themselves off It. The city put up an Electric Fence the ENTIRE length of the bridge and guess what? People STILL climb that thing and throw themselves off. STILL after being electrocuted. Yet we can't take it down, It's the same for that forest.

Now as for the second paragraph. This forest has been around for many many years, no one is advertising It. The proper name is Aokigahara, the forest floor is mostly volcanic rock and that's impossible to remove not to mention all the wildlife. They don't remove It for that reason, You can't bring down an entire ecosystem for that It's not some V.I.P place to go kill yourself. The only reason they made a documentary about this is to raise more awareness for people. You see that skeleton? That person wasn't found by anyone, Let's ignore the numerous warnings people have placed in the forest for people to turn around and consider their loved ones. Not the love letters and lines to call when you're thinking about It. (That ties into your first paragraph) guess those people didn't change their minds. Also if maybe kids these days would learn they are downplaying the number of people who have died In that forest to prevent so much attraction. Also to prove everything you said wrong on most accounts did you know that It got popular only because a 1960 novel Kuroi Kaiju (Black Sea of Trees) However, the history of suicide in Aokigahara predates the novels and the place has long been associated with death before then. It's a very very old forest. So please don't disrespect this by saying the things you did. Because to be honest you sound like a child that has no idea about life and how the world works.

Why are you people being so ridiculous, childish, and judgmental? Life is a personal commodity. If someone wants to end it and embrace death in lieu of complicating their life further, there shouldn't be any sin or wrong rubbish associated with it. Not all problems can be solved, not all people succeed in life.

Life is basically a perpetual boring cycle, till you meet the greatest equalizer. I think the people who know they have met the dead ends and want to end it sooner, are more logical than those who hopelessly cling to it. On the other hand, Japan has the highest suicide rates in the world, followed by England, if I am not mistaken. The people here are extremely polite though. I wonder why that is the case.

That's a pretty ****ed up way to think, granted everyone is allowed an opinion in this case not so much. While sure the choice is up to them, like I stated above most people can't be persuaded to stop. That is fact. Sure It shouldn't be considered a sin but It's pretty damn sad. Most people who can't succeed in life have either never been given the proper tools to succeed or they were not taught. If given the proper tools and guidance most people can succeed. There is always a solution to almost every situation. Suicide is all mentally. Some people are so far gone there is no going back. People who commit suicide feel, too weak to face life, they feel like they have nothing left, nothing to live for It's an empty black hole and most of the time that isn't the case at all. Once you have that rope around your neck, If you don't break your neck your mind races, You can't breathe. You can feel your body stopping your heart beats in your ears, It's so beyond painful. but by then If no one comes It's too late. Yes, going through all that seems very logical instead of seeing help. Let's go with what you said though.

Actually Greenland has the highest suicide rate, followed by South Korea. Where you got England is beyond me. Japan has dropped to the 10th, and England isn't even being recognized until the 34th spot. Besides most of the data that exist is from older years, no country wants to be truthful about how many people kill themselves lol.

 

[shelke]

That's a pretty ****ed up way to think, granted everyone is allowed an opinion in this case not so much. While sure the choice is up to them, like I stated above most people can't be persuaded to stop. That is fact. Sure It shouldn't be considered a sin but It's pretty damn sad. Most people who can't succeed in life have either never been given the proper tools to succeed or they were not taught. If given the proper tools and guidance most people can succeed. There is always a solution to almost every situation. Suicide is all mentally. Some people are so far gone there is no going back. People who commit suicide feel, too weak to face life, they feel like they have nothing left, nothing to live for It's an empty black hole and most of the time that isn't the case at all. Once you have that rope around your neck, If you don't break your neck your mind races, You can't breathe. You can feel your body stopping your heart beats in your ears, It's so beyond painful. but by then If no one comes It's too late. Yes, going through all that seems very logical instead of seeing help. Let's go with what you said though.

Actually Greenland has the highest suicide rate, followed by South Korea. Where you got England is beyond me. Japan has dropped to the 10th, and England isn't even being recognized until the 34th spot. Besides most of the data that exist is from older years, no country wants to be truthful about how many people kill themselves lol.

No, there isn't solution to all problems. And here is where you are utterly wrong. I don't know where you live and what kind of life you have had, but you need to understand that not all problems have solutions. Take a simple factor of disease. Let's take an example of a man diagnosed with HIV Positive and he cannot afford drugs. A girl or a boy trafficked for child prostitution. I have come across cases where a father sold his own ten year old daughter to a feudal lord - it's still a common factor in Pakistan - who used her sexually - read at your own risk - not only vaginally but through **** *** as well.

According to the woman herself - who was a aging woman now - he used to leave blood on the sheets every time he left. She tried to kill herself but was saved. But for what? She was sold to another prostitution centre and grew old there. A woman was disfigured beyond belief when one man from a political khar family threw acid on her. She spent ten plus years after that in agony and finally jumped off the balcony. Even after all those corrective surgeries, I felt horrified from looking at her. Just imagine what she must have felt like, considering that she was absolutely beautiful.

Another factor is parental abuse. A lot of people lose hope and feel that they cannot succeed in life. They experience repeated failures and despite their best efforts; they get no where in life. So, no offense, this 'those people cannot face life' is a bull-shit statement that is as thin as a paper and holds no merits for someone actually experiencing failures brought about by real troubles. If you ask my personal opinion, every one who makes such a statement is being typically human. We are instinctual wired to survive, no matter what. It's in our blood. People just love to live, it's just that simple. Hence the idea of someone embracing death mortifies them, and I find it hilarious, considering how short and pointless human life truly is.

Those stats are from a documentary I saw on suicide a couple of years back. What are the stats now? I haven't checked, that is why I didn't say anything with certainty.

 

[Revyy]

No, there isn't solution to all problems. And here is where you are utterly wrong. I don't know where you live and what kind of life you have had, but you need to understand that not all problems have solutions. Take a simple factor of disease. Let's take an example of a man diagnosed with HIV Positive and he cannot afford drugs. A girl or a boy trafficked for child prostitution. I have come across cases where a father sold his own ten year old daughter to a feudal lord - it's still a common factor in Pakistan - who used her sexually - read at your own risk - not only vaginally but through **** *** as well.

According to the woman herself - who was a aging woman now - he used to leave blood on the sheets every time he left. She tried to kill herself but was saved. But for what? She was sold to another prostitution centre and grew old there. A woman was disfigured beyond belief when one man from a political khar family threw acid on her. She spent ten plus years after that in agony and finally jumped off the balcony. Even after all those corrective surgeries, I felt horrified from looking at her. Just imagine what she must have felt like, considering that she was absolutely beautiful.

Another factor is parental abuse. A lot of people lose hope and feel that they cannot succeed in life. They experience repeated failures and despite their best efforts; they get no where in life. So, no offense, this 'those people cannot face life' is a bull-shit statement that is as thin as a paper and holds no merits for someone actually experiencing failures brought about by real troubles. If you ask my personal opinion, every one who makes such a statement is being typically human. We are instinctual wired to survive, no matter what. It's in our blood. People just love to live, it's just that simple. Hence the idea of someone embracing death mortifies them, and I find it hilarious, considering how short and pointless human life truly is.

Those stats are from a documentary I saw on suicide a couple of years back. What are the stats now? I haven't checked, that is why I didn't say anything with certainty.

As I stated that is a different country thus It's different. Granted that was a horrible situation but still she could have lived. What happened to her was beyond awful her being disfigured. Trust me out there at someplace someone has had It much worse. It's not excuse, honestly It's not. Those things happen all the time in that country. I remember the same story from years back. Isn't it so sad you felt horrified by looking at her? I'm sure she was still beautiful. As for HIV there are programs that help with medication for people that sick, many programs exist. I'm an LPN I see plenty of people infected with HIV and are fine living with It. Don't use disease as an excuse there are girls with so much worse than that that find meaning in life, they are standing on deaths door yet they live every second.


Here is where I smash your statement.

I can imagine what she felt like because I have been there. I was tossed around like a damn toy my entire life. Abuse after abuse, foster home to foster home. Abandoned and beaten by my real parents. Being raped every night as a child. I have had my womanhood taken. I have scars all over my body, I have carvings in my skin I cover with makeup those are with me for life. Every time I look in the mirror I remember, I'm FORCED to remember. I am disfigured as well, disfiguration isn't just something such as acid. I watched him harm my Aunt in every single way. I was forced to watch. You know what she hung herself right in my bedroom. She had me and that STILL didn't stop her. That is the case most of the time. Me? I couldn't face life, I really couldn't. In a situation like that, you feel worthless. Thoughts run through your mind. You can't function you can't face the real world being scared of every one. Never trusting anyone or anything. You truly feel alone. After all what person wants a woman who's dead beaten and broken? I tried to hang myself many many times but I was stopped every time. Hell I even cut my wrist open. Eventually they threw me in an asylum you know what happened? I saw things...and I knew I was acting like poor me when really, there are tons of people who have It worse and still manage to live everyday. (Like the girl you stated, horrible) I got my shit together finished school, Joined the Navy I graduated college, now I have my own place, My own car paid off an amazing job and a man that adores me in every single way. I have many friends that love and adore me. My support group is amazing. I don't want pity or anything, that was not the point, The point in telling you this is because I'm a survivor in every sense of the word. I worked from nothing and made myself something. Did I want to end my life many many times as I stated? Yes I did, but I'm glad to be alive now. That statement does hold merit in more ways than you can imagine I'm sure. I have been told I was nothing but a failure my entire life. It's carved in my skin so I won't forget. But I got somewhere In life, so what does that say about me?

BTW It may have failed to reach you but you are HUMAN. If you feel that way I welcome you to step up and embrace death like I have tried too. Go ahead. Come back and tell me how pointless your life is. Life is not pointless, that is something I had to learn myself. I used to think like you, I really did.

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[shelke]

As I stated that is a different country thus It's different. Granted that was a horrible situation but still she could have lived. What happened to her was beyond awful her being disfigured. Trust me out there at someplace someone has had It much worse. It's not excuse, honestly It's not. Those things happen all the time in that country. I remember the same story from years back. Isn't it so sad you felt horrified by looking at her? I'm sure she was still beautiful. As for HIV there are programs that help with medication for people that sick, many programs exist. I'm an LPN I see plenty of people infected with HIV and are fine living with It. Don't use disease as an excuse there are girls with so much worse than that that find meaning in life, they are standing on deaths door yet they live every second.


Here is where I smash your statement.

I can imagine what she felt like because I have been there. I was tossed around like a damn toy my entire life. Abuse after abuse, foster home to foster home. Abandoned and beaten by my real parents. Being raped every night as a child. I have had my womanhood taken. I have scars all over my body, I have carvings in my skin I cover with makeup those are with me for life. Every time I look in the mirror I remember, I'm FORCED to remember. I am disfigured as well, disfiguration isn't just something such as acid. I watched him harm my Aunt in every single way. I was forced to watch. You know what she hung herself right in my bedroom. She had me and that STILL didn't stop her. That is the case most of the time. Me? I couldn't face life, I really couldn't. In a situation like that, you feel worthless. Thoughts run through your mind. You can't function you can't face the real world being scared of every one. Never trusting anyone or anything. You truly feel alone. After all what person wants a woman who's dead beaten and broken? I tried to hang myself many many times but I was stopped every time. Hell I even cut my wrist open. Eventually they threw me in an asylum you know what happened? I saw things...and I knew I was acting like poor me when really, there are tons of people who have It worse and still manage to live everyday. (Like the girl you stated, horrible) I got my shit together finished school, Joined the Navy I graduated college, now I have my own place, My own car paid off an amazing job and a man that adores me in every single way. I have many friends that love and adore me. My support group is amazing. I don't want pity or anything, that was not the point, The point in telling you this is because I'm a survivor in every sense of the word. I worked from nothing and made myself something. Did I want to end my life many many times as I stated? Yes I did, but I'm glad to be alive now. That statement does hold merit in more ways than you can imagine I'm sure. I have been told I was nothing but a failure my entire life. It's carved in my skin so I won't forget. But I got somewhere In life, so what does that say about me?

BTW It may have failed to reach you but you are HUMAN. If you feel that way I welcome you to step up and embrace death like I have tried too. Go ahead. Come back and tell me how pointless your life is. Life is not pointless, that is something I had to learn myself. I used to think like you, I really did.

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It's like I stated most countries won't give a full list. Due to embarrassment, religion or other given reasons, Not that I blame them lol

I wouldn't go into the same ridiculous story-telling, but you didn't smash anything. You think what you think goes. No one is obliged to follow your ethos about their life that is their property. Get it now? You have no right to decide what someone else does to their own life. Different people react differently and that is the True reality of life. I sympathize with your story, I really do. I can see where you are coming from and I myself have faced a lot of hardships in life which I wouldn't want to discuss here again. But what I said earlier still applies. It isn't up to you to decide what others choose for their lives.

As for life having some point, then I am afraid, it doesn't. That is just what is there to it. You don't add anything to the system of creation, yet you simply are a part of a redundant cycle, built to perish since the moment you are born. Humans rush through such short lives and accomplish barely nothing in the grand scheme of things. This is a hard fact, whether you accept it or not. I wouldn't want to turn this into a quarrel and hurt you. Let's drop this.

 

[Tipsyglam]

You clearly don't understand this. So sit down and let me tell you to your first paragraph, you have no idea what you're talking about. Firstly when a person wants to end their life, It's pretty final. You can TRY to persuade them and sure things might be okay for a time, but in the end those thoughts will always be there and again If they have that chance they will take it. I know this firsthand on several occasions. Please tell me how hope in humanity could prevail, when in reality humanity caused this in the first place? The pressure in other countries are super high specially Asian countries. Most people end their life because they are so beyond stressed. Do you know the pressure out on Males in these countries? You need to consider these things when talking about suicide. To further prove my point here's an example.

Also to bring in another point there are these 2 bridges I live near. They are the Y bridge and the High Bridge. The High Bridge is a major bride that connects downtown Akron and It's pretty much the only way to get into town. Many years ago It used to be a train track, a train crashed and killed 250 people below It yet we let the bridge stand, Hundreds of people throw themselves off It yet we let It stand. Why? It's a major bridge we can't take It down . The Y bridge has had even more people kill themselves off It. The city put up an Electric Fence the ENTIRE length of the bridge and guess what? People STILL climb that thing and throw themselves off. STILL after being electrocuted. Yet we can't take it down, It's the same for that forest.

Now as for the second paragraph. This forest has been around for many many years, no one is advertising It. The proper name is Aokigahara, the forest floor is mostly volcanic rock and that's impossible to remove not to mention all the wildlife. They don't remove It for that reason, You can't bring down an entire ecosystem for that It's not some V.I.P place to go kill yourself. The only reason they made a documentary about this is to raise more awareness for people. You see that skeleton? That person wasn't found by anyone, Let's ignore the numerous warnings people have placed in the forest for people to turn around and consider their loved ones. Not the love letters and lines to call when you're thinking about It. (That ties into your first paragraph) guess those people didn't change their minds. Also if maybe kids these days would learn they are downplaying the number of people who have died In that forest to prevent so much attraction. Also to prove everything you said wrong on most accounts did you know that It got popular only because a 1960 novel Kuroi Kaiju (Black Sea of Trees) However, the history of suicide in Aokigahara predates the novels and the place has long been associated with death before then. It's a very very old forest. So please don't disrespect this by saying the things you did. Because to be honest you sound like a child that has no idea about life and how the world works.

The Bold Fonts sums it all. Thank you young lady, atleast you've tried explaining it very well. compared to the immature member here, who even have to insults someone's logic before going to conclusions.

Death for me is not always the solution to everything sis. Thats my opinion, I hate people dying. killing someone is a big sin. you have no rights to kill someone, same as how to slaughter yourself.

 

[Professor Finesser]

The Bold Fonts sums it all. Thank you young lady, atleast you've tried explaining it very well. compared to the immature member here, who even have to insults someone's logic before going to conclusions.

Death for me is not always the solution to everything sis. Thats my opinion, I hate people dying. killing someone is a big sin. you have no rights to kill someone, same as how to slaughter yourself.

Im immature? Please elaborate on this statement I would like to know where I'm wrong here and where you are right.

Of course I insulted your logic, thus far you have shown nothing to make me think that I was jumping to conclusions I genuinely think you don't know what the hell you're talking about.