EMS Sasuke takes Akatsuki Gaunlet

[Tendou00]

Stop at 2.
Kakuzu + Deidara stomp low dif.

 

[Unorthodox]

The problem is team work is in play. So attempting one shots will be difficult. Dodging Enton is like trying to dodge a Kunai/ Ninja stars, only an amateur or non-front line battlers would easily get hit by them.

-The down fall would be for Sasuke is leaving his metallic weapon left in his back due to Magnet Release. This gives Sasori a shot of making this a factor by pulling him out of Sussanoo. But of course, can only apply through holding the Sussanoo first.

-Kakuzu on the other hand can pressurize Sasuke only the other 3 can finish the job. If Sasuke is not using legs for his armor, then 2 moves can be a factor for Kakuzu.



I only cracked a smile..

I lied

Funnay af Amaterasu is to fast liner or not to mention susanoo arrow could 1 shot kakuzu hit the main body he dies sasori is a non factor as he can see his hear not to mention sasori is non mobile enton cuts through any of his sand manipulations Itachi not worth discussing Kisame is one shotted with ama as its to hot to absorb and preta couldnt even absorb it not to mention kisame has to spit out water dome leaves his open for a wide feild of attacks Kirin>WSB Lighting>Water nature>WSB

His new Susanoo doesn't exist as Sasuke's independent technique.

He can use it due to the Kyuubi cloak.

No way he is beating those 4, when GSB eats his Susanoo.

naruto only shown to increase the attack power & size it would just make susanoo bigger it cannot make it grow legs as that is susanoo evolving

thats like sasuke only able to use skeleton susanoo gets kurama uses final susanoo not happening

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Funnay af Amaterasu is to fast liner or not to mention susanoo arrow could 1 shot kakuzu hit the main body he dies sasori is a non factor as he can see his hear not to mention sasori is non mobile enton cuts through any of his sand manipulations Itachi not worth discussing Kisame is one shotted with ama as its to hot to absorb and preta couldnt even absorb it not to mention kisame has to spit out water dome leaves his open for a wide feild of attacks Kirin>WSB Lighting>Water nature>WSB

Sure, definitely, you can make a fanboy fanfic of Sasuke effortlessly do all this while they are dumfound and stupid, and when non of the feats count as a non factor since it's your favorite character, and one of the highest tier character, after all.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sure, definitely, you can make a fanboy fanfic of Sasuke effortlessly do all this while they are dumfound and stupid, and when non of the feats count as a non factor since it's your favorite character, and one of the highest tier character, after all.

im a fanoby? never said effortlessly just saying how it is and just because i dont like a non popular lower tier character im on a bandwagon? tsk.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

im a fanoby? never said effortlessly just saying how it is and just because i dont like a non popular lower tier character im on a bandwagon? tsk.

Clustering your points that had nothing to do with mine made it seem that, so yes.

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

I'm going to be a Dbag and copy my post from the previous page as nobody seems to have countered any of the points I made...And add a little bit more


Fact of the matter is even if Kisame gets hit by Amaterasu, it will not kill him...

Amaterasu does not instantly burn them, Samehada WILL absorb it, even though it may not like it, plus Itachi is there and he has shown the ability to extinguish Amaterasu.

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Sasuke will be forced to use Susanoo early due to Itachi's amaterasu, whereas Itachi probably won't as he has backup.
With a Susanoo up he's a target for Samehada, which will get absorbed...Without Susanoo for defence he is prone to getting a Ama or Totsuka to the face.

Any jutsu Sasuke has can be countered by Itachi and Kisame, Itachi knows every one of his own moves and Kisame can absorb every single one of them.

Whats Sasukes counter for Great Shark Bullet?
-Kirin would get absorbed and charge it with electricity, making it even more deadly.
-Aoda would get destroyed by it.
-Susanoo would get absorbed and hit Sasuke.
-Amaterasu/Enton would get absorbed, supercharging it.

Whats Sasukes counter for Water Dome?
-Kisamehada will absorb Susanoo
-Aoda would drown
Kisame wouldn't worry about Itachi , as he can swim in another direction, but TBH Kisame slaughtered how many Kirigakure ninja.. He wouldn't think twice about killing Itachi to kill Sasuke.

What can Sasuke do to protect himself, when he is battling with Itachi in genjutsu and Kisame comes to attack him?
-Absolutely nothing

Whats Sasukes counter to Susanoo and Totsuka, when he is out of chakra?
-Paper bombs? LOL

You guys act like he is vsing people one at a time, and also keep screaming "v4 susanoo GG", its only feat is to cut a tree...
Everyone says Itachi's Susanoo would get demolished by Sasukes, fact is both of them would stalemate each other, however Itachi has Kisame and Samehada, as back up who can literally slice Susanoo into nothing.

Sasuke does not make it past number 3. Stop being so god damn ignorant.

Edit: Just read some more idiotic posts, Kirin>WSB Lightning>Water.....
Wtf is WSB, its GSB and second lightning is not greater than water, lightning enhances water jutsu, especially one that absorbs chakra. Making it more deadly.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I still dont understand why Totsuka Blade is being downplay here too. Because it lack feats?
Its a ethereal weapon!

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What is more to say. Lets think about this real quick, concerning its latest feat to back it up.
When against Kabuto, We all know that through Sage mode every attack gets a boost! We know that he used Kimimro's bones attack, which is know for its resilience!

Kimi's bones+Sage Boost = ???

And what did it do in the face of Totsuka Blade?

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Cut it like butter. This evidence shows enough that this ethereal is what he says it was, with the lack of screen time it had.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

He's not getting past stage five, possibly even stage 4.

 

[Unorthodox]

I still dont understand why Totsuka Blade is being downplay here too. Because it lack feats?
Its a ethereal weapon!

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What is more to say. Lets think about this real quick, concerning its latest feat to back it up.
When against Kabuto, We all know that through Sage mode every attack gets a boost! We know that he used Kimimro's bones attack, which is know for its resilience!

Kimi's bones+Sage Boost = ???

And what did it do in the face of Totsuka Blade?

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Cut it like butter. This evidence shows enough that this ethereal is what he says it was, with the lack of screen time it had.

that sword clearly wasit totsuka was a normal susanoo sword even so kimmi bones dont = stage 4 susanoo so dont matter

 

[Brother Numpsay]

that sword clearly wasit totsuka was a normal susanoo sword even so kimmi bones dont = stage 4 susanoo so dont matter

Itachi has never carried a sussanoo sword. Unless you have evidence that I have never notice. You can see the chakra wave under it's chakra arm which shows the liquid blade flowing.

And even so this proves that the sword is ethereal, meaning any materialistic that is displayed wither its hard or not means nothing to it's celestial/spiritual prioritizes.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I'm going to be a Dbag and copy my post from the previous page as nobody seems to have countered any of the points I made...And add a little bit more

I'll bite

Fact of the matter is even if Kisame gets hit by Amaterasu, it will not kill him...

It will reduce his chakra pool in healing

Amaterasu does not instantly burn them, Samehada WILL absorb it, even though it may not like it, plus Itachi is there and he has shown the ability to extinguish Amaterasu.

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And, if samehade absorbs it, it then has to heal the burn wounds he already sustained. Chakra lost.
If itachi puts out amaterasu, it strains his eyes dulling his movements and reducing his vision further. Sasuke spams 5 amaterasu; itachi outs them all; itachi's blind.

Sasuke will be forced to use Susanoo early due to Itachi's amaterasu, whereas Itachi probably won't as he has backup.
With a Susanoo up he's a target for Samehada, which will get absorbed...Without Susanoo for defence he is prone to getting a Ama or Totsuka to the face.

Sasuke won't be forced. It's a part of his strategy. Infact, it's the other way around since sasuke can quick shot enton from a sword whereas itachi needs to build up chakra. And, oh, Sasuke could most likely out amaterasu whereas itachi can't. Sasuke has itachi's eyes, not the other way around.
If kisame comes close, he gets shot hard with magatama, chidori spear, Enton sword, etc. Oh, and that's assuming sasuke isn't already ontop aoda which he can use ama from. So, no, neither kisame nor itachi are coming close. it's suicide.

Any jutsu Sasuke has can be countered by Itachi and Kisame, Itachi knows every one of his own moves and Kisame can absorb every single one of them.

Other way around bruh. Kisame absorbs jutsu in close proximity and he has no barrier like preta. The jutsu can still hit if it's coming quiick enough. An enton arrow would impale kisame and heavily injure, if not kill him. He then has to preta heal. Itachi, again is a non factor since sasuke fights with susano'o up and itachi can't fight on that level.

Whats Sasukes counter for Great Shark Bullet?
-Kirin would get absorbed and charge it with electricity, making it even more deadly.
-Aoda would get destroyed by it.
-Susanoo would get absorbed and hit Sasuke.
-Amaterasu/Enton would get absorbed, supercharging it.

-Aoda is bigger than it lmfao. Aoda would simply dodge it in any case. It's a linear attack an aoda is a snake
-Sasuke has a flying hawk

Whats Sasukes counter for Water Dome?
-Kisamehada will absorb Susanoo
-Aoda would drown
Kisame wouldn't worry about Itachi , as he can swim in another direction, but TBH Kisame slaughtered how many Kirigakure ninja.. He wouldn't think twice about killing Itachi to kill Sasuke.

WD is a dumb strategy. In there it'd be kisame vs Sasuke because itachi can't effectively fight in there. Kisame would get killed quickly. Water doesn't out enton so sasuke spams enton magatamas, enton arrows and even chidori lances at kisame. He'd suffer damage before he started to absorb the attacks because of their speed

What can Sasuke do to protect himself, when he is battling with Itachi in genjutsu and Kisame comes to attack him?
-Absolutely nothing

He breaks the genjutsu before kisame is within range...?
-Normal genjutsu is easily broken so he won't be in it long
-Tsukuyomi lasts one second so kisame won't even have time to exploit it.

Whats Sasukes counter to Susanoo and Totsuka, when he is out of chakra?
-Paper bombs? LOL

Implying sasuke runs out of chakra before Itachi. He has his chakra reserves + ITachi's because of the EMS. He's been spamming Susano'o attacks since he got EMS that he could barely manage on MS alone. Itachi's vision decks quickly. This is kisame vs Sasuke.

You guys act like he is vsing people one at a time, and also keep screaming "v4 susanoo GG", its only feat is to cut a tree...
Everyone says Itachi's Susanoo would get demolished by Sasukes, fact is both of them would stalemate each other, however Itachi has Kisame and Samehada, as back up who can literally slice Susanoo into nothing.

You're acting like any of these guys have a counter to a v3 susano'o riding ontop of Aoda spamming long ranged 7 day fire. They don't. They die. Itachi and sasuke would only stalemate for the 5 minutes itachi could hold it up. And, sasuke could infact move quickly in V3 susano'o(before he got legs) so he could still dodge attacks. If kisame is an idiot enough to come in close, he gets raped. Sasuke is faster than him and has an EMS to break down his trajectory to the tiniest detail.

Sasuke does not make it past number 3. Stop being so god damn ignorant.

Take your own advice. He stops at 6.
Obito 'with mokuton' is featless. There is no such thing as an obito who could do more than branches from his arm, that's not enough to take on sasuke. Once sasuke figures out his kamui, he'd use his intelligence to counter it. Only fight 4 is debateable.

Edit: Just read some more idiotic posts, Kirin>WSB Lightning>Water.....
Wtf is WSB, its GSB and second lightning is not greater than water, lightning enhances water jutsu, especially one that absorbs chakra. Making it more deadly.

This post is even more idiotic. Kirin is

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. Kisame will not only activate GSB in 0.001 seconds, but also absorb chakra from something without it? Lol...

Now you know why no one responded to this, it wasn't worth it.

As to the people talking about 4, Sasori, Kakuzu and itachi are non factors. Itachi can't fight on sasuke's level -- susano'o -- for long, Sasuke can read everyone of sasori's movements with his sharingan, none of which make it past Susano'o, and sasuke can

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hearts from the start.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Itachi only needs to keep Susanoo up and protect Kisame long enough for him to use GSB.

Sasuke is toast.

He doesn't get past 3.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Itachi only needs to keep Susanoo up and protect Kisame long enough for him to use GSB.

Sasuke is toast.

He doesn't get past 3.

Sasuke summons Aoda who protects him or the snake goes underground.

 

[thatgirl]

Itachi has never carried a sussanoo sword. Unless you have evidence that I have never notice. You can see the chakra wave under it's chakra arm which shows the liquid blade flowing.

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And even so this proves that the sword is ethereal, meaning any materialistic that is displayed wither its hard or not means nothing to it's celestial/spiritual prioritizes.

...no

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

I'll bite



It will reduce his chakra pool in healing


And, if samehade absorbs it, it then has to heal the burn wounds he already sustained. Chakra lost.
If itachi puts out amaterasu, it strains his eyes dulling his movements and reducing his vision further. Sasuke spams 5 amaterasu; itachi outs them all; itachi's blind.


Sasuke won't be forced. It's a part of his strategy. Infact, it's the other way around since sasuke can quick shot enton from a sword whereas itachi needs to build up chakra. And, oh, Sasuke could most likely out amaterasu whereas itachi can't. Sasuke has itachi's eyes, not the other way around.
If kisame comes close, he gets shot hard with magatama, chidori spear, Enton sword, etc. Oh, and that's assuming sasuke isn't already ontop aoda which he can use ama from. So, no, neither kisame nor itachi are coming close. it's suicide.


Other way around bruh. Kisame absorbs jutsu in close proximity and he has no barrier like preta. The jutsu can still hit if it's coming quiick enough. An enton arrow would impale kisame and heavily injure, if not kill him. He then has to preta heal. Itachi, again is a non factor since sasuke fights with susano'o up and itachi can't fight on that level.


-Aoda is bigger than it lmfao. Aoda would simply dodge it in any case. It's a linear attack an aoda is a snake
-Sasuke has a flying hawk


WD is a dumb strategy. In there it'd be kisame vs Sasuke because itachi can't effectively fight in there. Kisame would get killed quickly. Water doesn't out enton so sasuke spams enton magatamas, enton arrows and even chidori lances at kisame. He'd suffer damage before he started to absorb the attacks because of their speed


He breaks the genjutsu before kisame is within range...?
-Normal genjutsu is easily broken so he won't be in it long
-Tsukuyomi lasts one second so kisame won't even have time to exploit it.


Implying sasuke runs out of chakra before Itachi. He has his chakra reserves + ITachi's because of the EMS. He's been spamming Susano'o attacks since he got EMS that he could barely manage on MS alone. Itachi's vision decks quickly. This is kisame vs Sasuke.


You're acting like any of these guys have a counter to a v3 susano'o riding ontop of Aoda spamming long ranged 7 day fire. They don't. They die. Itachi and sasuke would only stalemate for the 5 minutes itachi could hold it up. And, sasuke could infact move quickly in V3 susano'o(before he got legs) so he could still dodge attacks. If kisame is an idiot enough to come in close, he gets raped. Sasuke is faster than him and has an EMS to break down his trajectory to the tiniest detail.


Take your own advice. He stops at 6.
Obito 'with mokuton' is featless. There is no such thing as an obito who could do more than branches from his arm, that's not enough to take on sasuke. Once sasuke figures out his kamui, he'd use his intelligence to counter it. Only fight 4 is debateable.


This post is even more idiotic. Kirin is

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. Kisame will not only activate GSB in 0.001 seconds, but also absorb chakra from something without it? Lol...

Now you know why no one responded to this, it wasn't worth it.

As to the people talking about 4, Sasori, Kakuzu and itachi are non factors. Itachi can't fight on sasuke's level -- susano'o -- for long, Sasuke can read everyone of sasori's movements with his sharingan, none of which make it past Susano'o, and sasuke can

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hearts from the start.

Ill write it in points as its easier

1. Your worried about Kisame's chakra pool? At 30% it was compared to Narutos, who has nigh on unlimited chakra. Chakra lost for Kisame is an absolute non factor so don't worry about it.

2. Amaterasu is not an instant disintegration technique, against Nagato he had time to fall to the ground and sit there for like at least a few minutes before half of his arm and a bit of his body was gone...If Kisame absorbs it within a few seconds damage done will be extremely minuscule.

3. Yes he will be forced to use Susanoo, if he doesn't, he dies, simple as that... You forget that Kisames first jutsu is usually to create a lake, which has waves inhibiting vision and Kisame's sharks attacking from Susanoo v4's weakness, which is underneath. How can he amaterasu/enton a target, if he cant see it, where as he will be frickin obvious in susanoo

Also If Kisame comes close, he has a rib cage Susanoo Itachi protecting him.

4. What do you mean Itachi is a non factor, his chakra level is not frickin 0, he can maintain Susanoo. He used normal genjutsu's, Katon, 2 amaterasu's, shadow clones, and then he used Susanoo tanking a Kirin, whilst he was sick.. Don't say that is nothing.
And your telling me he can hit a Kisame with an Enton arrow, whilst Kisame has about a 1000 sharks attacking Sasuke, is hidden behing waves/underwater and has a Susanoo Itachi battling him. GTFO.

5. If Aoda gets hit by GSB, he is done. End of story.
This is an actual question, I cant remember, can Sasuke still use hawks or is he back to snakes? I cant remember a time when he has more than one summoning contract...If not its one or the other.
And is he uses Susanoo to block it like he would, as he does not know the special ability of it, he dies.

6. It doesn't matter if Itachi is not there, when he is in water dome he is drowning that is a fact. If he uses any lightning based jutsu, he is going to fry himself as he is in water. Enton arrows and magatamas ain't doing shit too a fused Kisamehada, who absorbs any chakra that touches him.

Also have you seen what a bullet does in water.. It barely travels a metre, same thing will happen to an Enton arrow, and shooting a magatama through water, it will travel extremely slowly as it has to absorb the water that is in front of it. Kisamehada the shark can easily dodge it.
WD can just wait Sasuke out until he drowns, or if he wants to absorb the Susanoo, which will likely be up, if not Sasuke is a seal in the middle of a pack of hungry great whites.

7.Since his fight with Itachi, he has used Genjutsu twice? Just because he has better eyes doesn't mean he is breaking out of a genjutsu masters illusions in a second, which is the time it would take for Kisame to travel the 35 metres to Sasuke...Tsukiyomi is different, as it alters time, he has 72 in illusion hours to crack it, and if he breaks it, only half a second has passed.

8. He doesn't have Itachi's chakra, he has his eyes, which means no strain on his eyes, doesn't mean it requires no chakra. If you think he's outlasting Kisame, the tailless beasts, and Itachi, your on drugs. And not the good ones.

9. Counter to v3 Susanoo Aoda = Amaterasu Aoda, drown Aoda, kill Aoda with sharks, slice Aoda up with Susanoo, GSB Aoda..Need I say more.
Show me a battle where Sasuke has used Amaterasu more than four times without his chakra being replenished, or holding his Susanoo up for more than five minutes without being replenished.
The main reason people think he holds it up WAY longer than Itachi, is because of screentime.
Show me this "moving quickly" in v3 you talk about, how is it dodging a GSB whilst he is submerged in water?

9.Lol

10.If you misunderstood, this is somebody countering GSB with a Kirin, first off the conditions have to be perfect for Kirin to even work, the prep time for Kirin is its biggest weakness. If you look Kirin up it is still a ninjutsu, being natural lightning doesn't mean it is not chakra, it just means it is not a persons chakra, that ninjutsu can be absorbed GSB.

Even if Sasuke hits Kisame with a kirin, and their is a GSB coming at him, they both die..Leaving Itachi, team 3 still wins.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Ill write it in points as its easier

1. Your worried about Kisame's chakra pool? At 30% it was compared to Narutos, who has nigh on unlimited chakra. Chakra lost for Kisame is an absolute non factor so don't worry about it.

2. Amaterasu is not an instant disintegration technique, against Nagato he had time to fall to the ground and sit there for like at least a few minutes before half of his arm and a bit of his body was gone...If Kisame absorbs it within a few seconds damage done will be extremely minuscule.

3. Yes he will be forced to use Susanoo, if he doesn't, he dies, simple as that... You forget that Kisames first jutsu is usually to create a lake, which has waves inhibiting vision and Kisame's sharks attacking from Susanoo v4's weakness, which is underneath. How can he amaterasu/enton a target, if he cant see it, where as he will be frickin obvious in susanoo

Also If Kisame comes close, he has a rib cage Susanoo Itachi protecting him.

4. What do you mean Itachi is a non factor, his chakra level is not frickin 0, he can maintain Susanoo. He used normal genjutsu's, Katon, 2 amaterasu's, shadow clones, and then he used Susanoo tanking a Kirin, whilst he was sick.. Don't say that is nothing.
And your telling me he can hit a Kisame with an Enton arrow, whilst Kisame has about a 1000 sharks attacking Sasuke, is hidden behing waves/underwater and has a Susanoo Itachi battling him. GTFO.

5. If Aoda gets hit by GSB, he is done. End of story.
This is an actual question, I cant remember, can Sasuke still use hawks or is he back to snakes? I cant remember a time when he has more than one summoning contract...If not its one or the other.
And is he uses Susanoo to block it like he would, as he does not know the special ability of it, he dies.

6. It doesn't matter if Itachi is not there, when he is in water dome he is drowning that is a fact. If he uses any lightning based jutsu, he is going to fry himself as he is in water. Enton arrows and magatamas ain't doing shit too a fused Kisamehada, who absorbs any chakra that touches him.

Also have you seen what a bullet does in water.. It barely travels a metre, same thing will happen to an Enton arrow, and shooting a magatama through water, it will travel extremely slowly as it has to absorb the water that is in front of it. Kisamehada the shark can easily dodge it.
WD can just wait Sasuke out until he drowns, or if he wants to absorb the Susanoo, which will likely be up, if not Sasuke is a seal in the middle of a pack of hungry great whites.

7.Since his fight with Itachi, he has used Genjutsu twice? Just because he has better eyes doesn't mean he is breaking out of a genjutsu masters illusions in a second, which is the time it would take for Kisame to travel the 35 metres to Sasuke...Tsukiyomi is different, as it alters time, he has 72 in illusion hours to crack it, and if he breaks it, only half a second has passed.

8. He doesn't have Itachi's chakra, he has his eyes, which means no strain on his eyes, doesn't mean it requires no chakra. If you think he's outlasting Kisame, the tailless beasts, and Itachi, your on drugs. And not the good ones.

9. Counter to v3 Susanoo Aoda = Amaterasu Aoda, drown Aoda, kill Aoda with sharks, slice Aoda up with Susanoo, GSB Aoda..Need I say more.
Show me a battle where Sasuke has used Amaterasu more than four times without his chakra being replenished, or holding his Susanoo up for more than five minutes without being replenished.
The main reason people think he holds it up WAY longer than Itachi, is because of screentime.
Show me this "moving quickly" in v3 you talk about, how is it dodging a GSB whilst he is submerged in water?

9.Lol

10.If you misunderstood, this is somebody countering GSB with a Kirin, first off the conditions have to be perfect for Kirin to even work, the prep time for Kirin is its biggest weakness. If you look Kirin up it is still a ninjutsu, being natural lightning doesn't mean it is not chakra, it just means it is not a persons chakra, that ninjutsu can be absorbed GSB.

Even if Sasuke hits Kisame with a kirin, and their is a GSB coming at him, they both die..Leaving Itachi, team 3 still wins.

1) I never hinted that. All i said is it reduces his chakra pool. It doesn't matter how massive it is, wasting chakra is never a good thing, especially when he has to use his massive jutsu such as water shockwave, 1000 feeding sharks, GSB etc. He needs all the chakra he can get

2) Still damage, which has to be healed off. Furthermore, It doesn't necessarily need to be AMA, it could be enton projectiles which burn you with amaterasu + cause contact damage

3) Rofl. Sasuke fights in Susano'o naturally. This post makes no sense. How would he be forced to use something he naturally uses? Kisame creates a lake, sasuke summons aoda and sits ontop of it. Sasuke is now safe from below. The rest of your entire post is defeated by aoda alone. Ribcage Itachi, really? Itachi can't even sustain susano'o for that long, so i don't know how long you expect this strategy to last. even if they were to manage to reach close enough and let samehade absorb, Sasuke is still a brilliant kenjutsu fighter. Kisame's going to overpower an expect kenjutsu user who also has a sharingan? Rofl, no.

4) And then he became blind. It doesn't matter what he used. 4 MS jutsu equal Blindness. He opens Susano'o, like you suggest, and becomes slowed by the excrutiating pain of susano'o + his sickness. If he tries to out Amaterasu, he further accelerates his blindness. If he tries to use it to 'force sasuke into using susano'o' he further accelerates. Itachi could barely see before he used 4 MS moves, to fight sasuke he'd have to do that on his level which is Susano'o level. Sasuke always fights with susano'o, and no a rib cage itachi isn't helping kisame reach close when magatama's and arrows start flying. Ay broke through rib cage with his fist.

5) Thanks for all the proof as to why that would happen.
Aoda dodges GSB like it did mini juubi's. GSB isn't that big.
As to the susano'o part, Sasuke would notice GSB absorbing his Susano'o and take other measures to defend against it.

6) Lol. Kisame's going to be dead before he drowns, and he's been hit by water and lightning before without being affected. When kisame see's himself getting impaled constantly in the water with enton flames all around(water doesn't out enton) he would simply retreat and allow itachi to come assist him again. Kisame would be dead long before sasuke drows since team guy survived in water prison for quite some time. Sasuke simply uses genjutsu paralyses on kisame. During the 1-2 seconds he's paralysed(before he can break out, assuming he even can when he and samehade are now fused and most likely succumb to the same genjutsu) sasuke's attacks would be right in his face with little time to dodge. He'd still get hit.

7) He effectively did it already in the uchiha hide out. He pretty much told itachi "let's stop with the genjutsu" and ended it. He has a sharingan, sharingan beats genjutsu it's that simple or did you not read the first few chapters? It's only tsukuyomi that's a bit of a challenge to break, but he defeated it once so he's going to defeat it twice. Kisame won't have time do anything in 1 second. By the time kisame lunges forward, the genjutsu would be over and sasuke would bring out susano'o and impale him on an enton sword.

8) Did i say outlast? I said kills. Why would I say he outlasts kisame? He clearly outlasts itachi, especially in the visual department. You think Kisame can solo EMS sasuke who has the same movesets as itachi, when he already admitted inferiority to itachi? Are you serious...? FYI, Sasuke said he could feel itachi's power flowing through him. What is itachi's power? His chakra. It's the same way Mei's body guard could see Shishui's chakra flowing through danzo. Sasuke has no more strain on his eyes along with his own chakra pool and itachi's chakra flowing through him. Hence why ems sasuke could use a few susano'o moves and pant, but currently he's spammed a shit load of them(before getting kyuubi cloak) without so much as breaking a sweat. If you think Itachi's vision lasts long enough to fight sasuke, you're on drugs. If you think kisame solo's an EMS user, you're even on more powerful drugs. Oh, btw, Kisame is still susceptible to genjutsu. He can still be paralysed for at least a second at a time which is enough time for sasuke to send out an attack to cause serious damage.

9) Sasuke puts out the amaterasu while itachi just lost more vision. How is he drowning aoda when manda 2 can swim under water? Interesting bullshit. Kill aoda with water sharks? 1000 feeding sharks? The same ones that got killed by guy's air friction? A sweep of aoda's tail + a swing of susano'o sword dispels all of them effortlessly while kisame just decked even more of his chakra. Aoda dodges Gsb like he dodged 10+ mini juubi's no diff. Yes, You need to say much more because all those tactics fail.
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. All without even starting to break a sweat, or panting with no medic in the near vicinity, debunking that entire foolish statement. I could even go on to prove your 5 minute garbage with danzo since MS sasuke had susano'o for near all of Danzo's izanagi's (10 minutes of izanagi).
No, he hold it wayyyyyyyyyy more than itachi because he's not sick and he doesn't feel the bone numbing effects of it anymore.

10) Alright, by in either case, all there needs to be is enton burning around the place. That will definitely be happening because water won't put out enton, unless you're going to claim itachi will out every enton flame sasuke produces, or kisame will run around and keep absorbing them all instead of fight...? For that matter, every enton he does would evaporate the portions of water that it touches causes even quicker precipitation to form those clouds in the sky that he needs. Therefore, The conditions for kirin would be met at the start of the fight considering they were met off of 1 of itachi's amterasu and a fireball to the sky. If thunder clouds are still there, sure sasuke could probably counter GSB with kirin, because in that 0.001 seconds, kisame would be fried by natural lightning. Kirin is not chakra, don't be stupid now. It has 0 chakra, it's directed by the chakra from sasuke's chidori. Does a rock have chakra? Or a wave in the ocean? How about hirudora? Because hirudora was natural wind. Kirin has no chakra in it, this is just nonsense.

How would they both die? Kisame just got killed in 0.001 seconds while sasuke still has time to move. The Gsb wouldn't even have anyone controlling it's shape anymore so the impact force of the lightning alone would dissipate it. Are you saying that GSB is faster than 0.001 second lightning that's why it'd reach sasuke the same time Kirin reached kisame...?

I don't even have to try hard to counter half of these massively flawed points. You keep spouting itachi will use susano'o amterasu and out enton when he's going to go blind after doing just those 3 jutsu. You jsut proved how itachi is a non factor. In a 1v1 kisame is getting killed.

 

[RONNIN]

No way He is passing goddam stage 4.Even stage 3 is debatable .

 

[Unorthodox]

Itachi has never carried a sussanoo sword. Unless you have evidence that I have never notice. You can see the chakra wave under it's chakra arm which shows the liquid blade flowing.

And even so this proves that the sword is ethereal, meaning any materialistic that is displayed wither its hard or not means nothing to it's celestial/spiritual prioritizes.

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1) I never hinted that. All i said is it reduces his chakra pool. It doesn't matter how massive it is, wasting chakra is never a good thing, especially when he has to use his massive jutsu such as water shockwave, 1000 feeding sharks, GSB etc. He needs all the chakra he can get

2) Still damage, which has to be healed off. Furthermore, It doesn't necessarily need to be AMA, it could be enton projectiles which burn you with amaterasu + cause contact damage

3) Rofl. Sasuke fights in Susano'o naturally. This post makes no sense. How would he be forced to use something he naturally uses? Kisame creates a lake, sasuke summons aoda and sits ontop of it. Sasuke is now safe from below. The rest of your entire post is defeated by aoda alone. Ribcage Itachi, really? Itachi can't even sustain susano'o for that long, so i don't know how long you expect this strategy to last. even if they were to manage to reach close enough and let samehade absorb, Sasuke is still a brilliant kenjutsu fighter. Kisame's going to overpower an expect kenjutsu user who also has a sharingan? Rofl, no.

4) And then he became blind. It doesn't matter what he used. 4 MS jutsu equal Blindness. He opens Susano'o, like you suggest, and becomes slowed by the excrutiating pain of susano'o + his sickness. If he tries to out Amaterasu, he further accelerates his blindness. If he tries to use it to 'force sasuke into using susano'o' he further accelerates. Itachi could barely see before he used 4 MS moves, to fight sasuke he'd have to do that on his level which is Susano'o level. Sasuke always fights with susano'o, and no a rib cage itachi isn't helping kisame reach close when magatama's and arrows start flying. Ay broke through rib cage with his fist.

5) Thanks for all the proof as to why that would happen.
Aoda dodges GSB like it did mini juubi's. GSB isn't that big.
As to the susano'o part, Sasuke would notice GSB absorbing his Susano'o and take other measures to defend against it.

6) Lol. Kisame's going to be dead before he drowns, and he's been hit by water and lightning before without being affected. When kisame see's himself getting impaled constantly in the water with enton flames all around(water doesn't out enton) he would simply retreat and allow itachi to come assist him again. Kisame would be dead long before sasuke drows since team guy survived in water prison for quite some time. Sasuke simply uses genjutsu paralyses on kisame. During the 1-2 seconds he's paralysed(before he can break out, assuming he even can when he and samehade are now fused and most likely succumb to the same genjutsu) sasuke's attacks would be right in his face with little time to dodge. He'd still get hit.

7) He effectively did it already in the uchiha hide out. He pretty much told itachi "let's stop with the genjutsu" and ended it. He has a sharingan, sharingan beats genjutsu it's that simple or did you not read the first few chapters? It's only tsukuyomi that's a bit of a challenge to break, but he defeated it once so he's going to defeat it twice. Kisame won't have time do anything in 1 second. By the time kisame lunges forward, the genjutsu would be over and sasuke would bring out susano'o and impale him on an enton sword.

8) Did i say outlast? I said kills. Why would I say he outlasts kisame? He clearly outlasts itachi, especially in the visual department. You think Kisame can solo EMS sasuke who has the same movesets as itachi, when he already admitted inferiority to itachi? Are you serious...? FYI, Sasuke said he could feel itachi's power flowing through him. What is itachi's power? His chakra. It's the same way Mei's body guard could see Shishui's chakra flowing through danzo. Sasuke has no more strain on his eyes along with his own chakra pool and itachi's chakra flowing through him. Hence why ems sasuke could use a few susano'o moves and pant, but currently he's spammed a shit load of them(before getting kyuubi cloak) without so much as breaking a sweat. If you think Itachi's vision lasts long enough to fight sasuke, you're on drugs. If you think kisame solo's an EMS user, you're even on more powerful drugs. Oh, btw, Kisame is still susceptible to genjutsu. He can still be paralysed for at least a second at a time which is enough time for sasuke to send out an attack to cause serious damage.

9) Sasuke puts out the amaterasu while itachi just lost more vision. How is he drowning aoda when manda 2 can swim under water? Interesting bullshit. Kill aoda with water sharks? 1000 feeding sharks? The same ones that got killed by guy's air friction? A sweep of aoda's tail + a swing of susano'o sword dispels all of them effortlessly while kisame just decked even more of his chakra. Aoda dodges Gsb like he dodged 10+ mini juubi's no diff. Yes, You need to say much more because all those tactics fail.
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. All without even starting to break a sweat, or panting with no medic in the near vicinity, debunking that entire foolish statement. I could even go on to prove your 5 minute garbage with danzo since MS sasuke had susano'o for near all of Danzo's izanagi's (10 minutes of izanagi).
No, he hold it wayyyyyyyyyy more than itachi because he's not sick and he doesn't feel the bone numbing effects of it anymore.

10) Alright, by in either case, all there needs to be is enton burning around the place. That will definitely be happening because water won't put out enton, unless you're going to claim itachi will out every enton flame sasuke produces, or kisame will run around and keep absorbing them all instead of fight...? For that matter, every enton he does would evaporate the portions of water that it touches causes even quicker precipitation to form those clouds in the sky that he needs. Therefore, The conditions for kirin would be met at the start of the fight considering they were met off of 1 of itachi's amterasu and a fireball to the sky. If thunder clouds are still there, sure sasuke could probably counter GSB with kirin, because in that 0.001 seconds, kisame would be fried by natural lightning. Kirin is not chakra, don't be stupid now. It has 0 chakra, it's directed by the chakra from sasuke's chidori. Does a rock have chakra? Or a wave in the ocean? How about hirudora? Because hirudora was natural wind. Kirin has no chakra in it, this is just nonsense.

How would they both die? Kisame just got killed in 0.001 seconds while sasuke still has time to move. The Gsb wouldn't even have anyone controlling it's shape anymore so the impact force of the lightning alone would dissipate it. Are you saying that GSB is faster than 0.001 second lightning that's why it'd reach sasuke the same time Kirin reached kisame...?

I don't even have to try hard to counter half of these massively flawed points. You keep spouting itachi will use susano'o amterasu and out enton when he's going to go blind after doing just those 3 jutsu. You jsut proved how itachi is a non factor. In a 1v1 kisame is getting killed.

1. Lol Kisame does not need to worry about chakra. The Uchiha bros do though especially Itachi, however he is very aware of his own limitations. Sasuke however uses jutsu like their going out of fashion, he has never needed to preserve his chakra as he believes he can 1 shot everybody.

2. Ninjas a masters of deception, Kisame is very aware of the limitations of the sharingan, as he is battling his bros bro =0..
This means he is aware that sharingan users need to be able to see the enemy to hit them with amaterasu and therefore enton. Kisame can easily obsure Sasukes line of sight by using waves, heck even hidden mist would work.
Sasukes response would be to camp in his Susanoo, like usual, and wait for them to attack. This is really just to burn off Sasukes chakra, as without it he is shark food. If he drops it he can get hit by amaterasu or sharks.

3. So he uses Aoda, and swims around looking for them, Aoda gets hit by Itachis amaterasu and dies. That's one MS move down for Itachi 3 to go plus katon, shadow clones, genjutsu and an extinguish.
Sasuke won't have time to extinguish the flames on Aoda, whilst maintaining Susanoo and fighting off an assault from kisame and/or Itachi.

Once again he's vulnerable from below, and relatively less mobile. Whats Sasukes counter for an attack from below with Aoda dead?

4. By staying out of his line of sight using waves, and going underwater they can get close without a getting hit by an enton arrow/magatama.
Ill say Itachi uses Susanoo once, that's still two ms jutsu left, katon, shadow clones which half your chakra and a genjutsu.

Now that they're close Sasuke has no Susanoo, as it gets absorbed in one strike.
Now you say he is going to beat Kisame, the greatest of the seven swordsmen of the mist ever, plus Itachi who is also a master at Kenjutsu.
Rofl no, he'll get stomped.

-But what if Sasuke uses genjutsu on Kisame, his chakra gets disrupted by Samehada almost instantly. Plus he has Itachi to back him up.
-But what if he tries to Ama one of them, at close range if he closes his eyes for that second to perform it he gets a sword through the chest.
-Then what he puts Susanoo up again, at close quarters range, Susanoo gets absorbed by Samehada.
-That disappears and then what Sasuke takes an ama to the head...he ain't putting it out when its burning him, he couldn't concentrate when Kabutos white noise was in effect, he won't concentrate when his skin is melting off.

5. Size is not the only thing that matters LOL, a kunai is smaller than a ninja yet they get killed by them all the time.
Aoda is already barbeque snake, so Sasuke isn't avoiding GSB like that.
He thinks his Susanoo is the ultimate defence, so he would think he could tank it ...wrong. When it has already absorbed Susanoo, and is like 5 metres away, what measure is he going to take to avoid it. None... direct hit K.O.

6. Sasuke has 5-10 minutes before he drowns, during that he has to maintain Susanoo, or he gets ripped apart by sharks.
You say Kisame is dead before that happens.
BS!

In Kisamehada fusion form he absorbs any chakra that touches him this negates magatama and amaterasu, now there is only enton arrows to deal with.
Enton arrows are not going hit him when there underwater, water is not greater than enton, however it will definitely slow it down. Just like it slows down a bullet.
Add that to Kisame's extreme speed underwater when hes a shark and there not hitting him.
Maybe he uses Amaterasu, that doesn't do contact damage and gets absorbed instantly. No effect.
He drowns...or starts to panic and escape so he drops Susanoo, Kisame comes in and finishes him off.

7. I have really bad internet atm, so I cbf looking at the uchiha fight, but if I remember correctly, black zetsu and white zetsu had a conversation during their genjutsu battle.
Now I don't know how fast you speak, but it takes more than 1 second to have a conversation with somebody...Meaning he can't break it before Kisame has crossed the field and struck him down
Tsukiyomi is different as it effects time, however if they have a regular genjutsu battle it will last longer than 1 second.

8. In a 1v1 vs Itachi yes Sasuke outlasts him, in this 2v1 battle he doesn't outlast either of them. Itachi is extremely aware of his own lack of chakra and is very wise about when and where he uses it.
Basically he will only use it when necessary, why would he confront Sasuke with his Susanoo in a melee battle... He wouldn't, he'd only use it for defence/absolutely necessary.
Sasuke however has to keep his up the entire battle or he dies, this is extremely draining on his chakra, especially if he hasn't caused any damage to them.

Kisame can keep going forever, and if you read my posts you would see that Itachi has used two necessary MS jutsu. One on Aoda, and one Susanoo just for protection during there attempts to get close.
-If it went into a close quarters battle Sasuke would be dead by his sword wounds, Samehada stole all of his chakra, Itachi amaterasu'd him.
He may have survived this but bleed/forfeit vital chakra to samehada.
-If it went into WD Sasuke would have spammed jutsu to no avail and died. He won't survive this and he wasted so much chakra.
-GSB absorbs Susanoo.... direct hit and he's a goner

Itachi still has plenty in the tank, whereas Sasuke has been bleeding chakra since the start off the match.

9. Aoda is already dead by Amaterasu, so meh.

10. Yes Kirin would be able to be used, due to all the enton spam. But when you saw him use it he stood there for a while, whilst he connected with the sky. The only reason Itachi didn't attack was, because he was feigning being close to death, so he could draw orochi out and kill him instead.
Standing on Kisame's lake prepping the move leaves him very vulnerable to attacks from either Kisame or Itachi.
Also is it wise to use Kirin on a lake that your standing on? It could potentially fry the sht out of him, that would be funny to see lol.
This would be a last ditch effort by an exhausted Sasuke, as he relys heavily on his Susanoo/Enton spam to kill people and has never been pushed to the brink while using them.

But who would he hit with his Kirin?
Itachi has Yata to counter it, and he then has to fight both of them all over again.
Kisame can go underwater and hide, so he doesn't take a direct hit. If he does kill him, he still has Itachi, who can still use 2 ms jutsu, katon, shadow clone and genjutsu, whereas he is probably out of chakra.


You may call mine flawed, however you underestimate one thing, Itachi is a genius whoknows every move Sasuke can do and how to counter them, he could simulate at least 10 ways to beat Sasuke in his mind instantly and would definitely inform Kisame of these plans.
These two spent years together and would work extremely well together, formulating and executing one of Itachi's plans would be like second nature to them.

 

[razinzell]

I'd say 3. Kisame just spams water shark bullets wile hiding behind yata mirror. The shark bullets eat away at the Susanoo and Itachi's Totsuka will do major damage too. And Sasuke has no way to get through Yata mirror.

Itachi and Kisame outlast Sasuke.