Clarifying Sasuke's Susano'o Development

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I felt clarification was needed after Sasuke's Susano'o was formed this chapter and many have attributed this to the Bijuu Cloak supplied by Naruto but I find this assertion misguided and will attempt to clarify what we've seen this chapter.

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Using deductive reasoning we can assume that this Susano'o was completely formed by Sasuke's chakra, as the shape and color of the chakra is obviously still quite apparent when Naruto's chakra cloak is spread, regardless of matching chakra type. As the form Susano'o has obtained holds no Kyuubi like features and the color remains as it was, it is simply not affecting the entity directly. As this is an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan ability that we've seen in use by

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, who can even grow his Susano'o to a much

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, comparable to the full Kyuubi in size, this should not come as a surprise from someone with the same doujutsu.

Now, I will clarify what exactly the cloak has done, essentially, the hightened physical energies supplied by the cloak allowed Sasuke to enter the state while greatly lowering the strain upon his body in doing so. Basically, think of it as somewhat of a "

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" to Sasuke's Susano'o development, not exactly the same concept but as he holds the potential to use this form of Susano'o with the EMS, the cloak allowing him to enter the state prematurely allows him greater experience over use of this "completed" Susano'o and effectively shortens the time needed in mastering the technique.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

I like your idea. But I don't feel it's used as mainly "Frog Oil" so to speak as the cloak only gives the user more chakra to use. It's mainly in my opinion used to enhance the power of the Susano'o strength as it mainly was used so far to cut the tree.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I like your idea. But I don't feel it's used as mainly "Frog Oil" so to speak as the cloak only gives the user more chakra to use. It's mainly in my opinion used to enhance the power of the Susano'o.

Already addressed in the OP.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Already addressed in the OP.

I know, but I'm saying is that the "Frog Oil" concept really isn't much of a factor.

 

[Cosman]

For the sake of potential implications and so on concerning the battle of Naruto and Sasuke, let's just agree that Sausage will inevitably enter PS on his own.

But to see if I've got this, the cloak allowed the sauce the capabilities of entering the state in a manner that wouldn't affect his body (I'm guessing you mean chakra drainage and/or fatigue from overexertion?), however, actually bringing the PS forth was all Sasuke? Did I get that right?

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I know, but I'm saying is that the "Frog Oil" concept really isn't much of a factor.

I already mentioned that it's different in concept but similar in result. That's all I'm implying really.

For the sake of potential implications and so on concerning the battle of Naruto and Sasuke, let's just agree that Sausage will inevitably enter PS on his own.

But to see if I've got this, the cloak allowed the sauce the capabilities of entering the state in a manner that wouldn't affect his body (I'm guessing you mean chakra drainage and/or fatigue from overexertion?), however, actually bringing the PS forth was all Sasuke? Did I get that right?

That's what should be assumed given the reasoning I've placed forth within the OP. Susano'o is made up primarily of spiritual energies which affects the users physical energies, supplementing physical energies should reduce strain in using the technique.

 

[Amazeballs]

I felt clarification was needed after Sasuke's Susano'o was formed this chapter and many have attributed this to the Bijuu Cloak supplied by Naruto but I find this assertion misguided and will attempt to clarify what we've seen this chapter.

Spoiler

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Using deductive reasoning we can assume that this Susano'o was completely formed by Sasuke's chakra, as the shape and color of the chakra is obviously still quite apparent when Naruto's chakra cloak is spread, regardless of matching chakra type. As the form Susano'o has obtained holds no Kyuubi like features and the color remains as it was, it is simply not affecting the entity directly. As this is an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan ability that we've seen in use by

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, who can even grow his Susano'o to a much

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, comparable to the full Kyuubi in size, this should not come as a surprise from someone with the same doujutsu.

Now, I will clarify what exactly the cloak has done, essentially, the hightened physical energies supplied by the cloak allowed Sasuke to enter the state while greatly lowering the strain upon his body in doing so. Basically, think of it as somewhat of a "

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" to Sasuke's Susano'o development, not exactly the same concept but as he holds the potential to use this form of Susano'o with the EMS, the cloak allowing him to enter the state prematurely allows him greater experience over use of this "completed" Susano'o and effectively shortens the time needed in mastering the technique.

Personally, I'd say all Sasuke's using the Kyuubi cloak for is stamina. He could form this level of Susano'o easily on his own. I'd wager he can take it further and complete its Armor, too. EMS Sasuke > EMS Madara, since their Susano'o will be equally large but Sasuke possesses Enton (which Madara does not until proven otherwise). Madara's greatest asset was the Kyuubi, which allowed him to match Hashirama's stamina and brute force almost purely through Genjutsu.

I could see Sasuke using Juugo for a personal power-up. The Naruto cloak probably foreshadows Sasuke and Naruto linking their chakra to form a bigger chakra mecha (Sage Kyuubi with Enton Susano'o armor firing Enton Bijuudama Shuriken). It'll represent the two creating a power greater than Madara/Hashirama, because they have Yin and Yang working together with mad Will of Fire instead of wasting their potential opposing one another. They strengthen each other beyond what they could achieve alone; the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

/end rant, sorry for derailing.

 

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[Bijuu Bomber]

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Naruto's chakra only give more chakra reserves, it doesn't stimulate any difference in abilities or changes.

Sasuke's Susano'o is most likely developed through his maturation and enhancement in his EMS. Although thanks to Naruto's chakra his Susano'o is a lot more strong.

 

[H a n]

Hmmm..

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

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I already addressed this in the OP.

 

[xcoyote]

This might be possible,nice analysis.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

This might be possible,nice analysis.

Thanks. I believe it should be.

 

[Microsword57]

I Agree. I Myself came to the same conclusion. I will read deeper into the Chakra Cloak for a more knowledgeable understanding.

Edit: I Would compare the Cloak to the benefits of Edo Tensei. It increases Chakra Reserves, but these boosted Chakra Reserves do not allow you to past your limits.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Just one thing

You say reasoning and logic


When Naruto gave chakra to any other shinobi their jutsu was not at all made into some Kyuubi cloak looking extension


their techniques got ENHANCED due to this chakra


There is no proof that Sasuke is not using Naruto's chakra to Enhance his Susanoo - Plain fact - his Susanoo did not have legs before Naruto gave him chakra


HAVING SAID THAT

I will not be recommending to jump to any conclusions such as - " he won't be able to use it w/o Naruto's chakra "

HE obviously Will but AS OF THIS MOMENT it is safe to assume that Naruto's chakra enhanced his technique

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I Agree. I Myself came to the same conclusion. I will read deeper into the Chakra Cloak for a more knowledgeable understanding.

I believe it should be at least a reasonable deduction as we've no evidence Naruto's chakra is involved, since it's color and composition should be altered if it were, as it was when

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was transferred to Sasuke, despite it's compatibility, still having no affect on any of his other Jutsu's, yet causing Susano'o to take a somewhat similar form to Juugo's Sage Transformation. [

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Just one thing

You say reasoning and logic


When Naruto gave chakra to any other shinobi their jutsu was not at all made into some Kyuubi cloak looking extension


their techniques got ENHANCED due to this chakra


There is no proof that Sasuke is not using Naruto's chakra to Enhance his Susanoo - Plain fact - his Susanoo did not have legs before Naruto gave him chakra


HAVING SAID THAT

I will not be recommending to jump to any conclusions such as - " he won't be able to use it w/o Naruto's chakra "

HE obviously Will but AS OF THIS MOMENT it is safe to assume that Naruto's chakra enhanced his technique

Read above. Those techniques are not physical manifestations of spiritual energy, therefore they do not have any correlation to Susano'o.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

I believe it should be at least a reasonable deduction as we've no evidence Naruto's chakra is involved, since it's color and composition should be altered if it were, as it was when Juugo's chakra was transferred to Sasuke, despite it's compatibility, still having no affect on any of his other Jutsu's, yet causing Susano'o to take a somewhat similar form to Juugo's Sage Transformation. [

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Read above. Those techniques are not physical manifestations of spiritual energy, therefore they do not have any correlation to Susano'o.

Susano - Mangekyo sharingan and everything that is derived from it is considered Ninjutsu

Spiritual energy is a Synonim to chakra

in any case

A susanoo arrow did not affect the juubi - Amateratsu did not afect Obito - 1 reason , cuz its Ninjutsu , and he negates any Ninjutusu


So it does not matter what u call it , Sasuke uses chakra for it - and Naruto's chakra enhances any technique

hence - it is Safe to assume that it due to his chakra

 

[Microsword57]

Just one thing

You say reasoning and logic


When Naruto gave chakra to any other shinobi their jutsu was not at all made into some Kyuubi cloak looking extension


their techniques got ENHANCED due to this chakra


There is no proof that Sasuke is not using Naruto's chakra to Enhance his Susanoo - Plain fact - his Susanoo did not have legs before Naruto gave him chakra


HAVING SAID THAT

I will not be recommending to jump to any conclusions such as - " he won't be able to use it w/o Naruto's chakra "

HE obviously Will but AS OF THIS MOMENT it is safe to assume that Naruto's chakra enhanced his technique

What part of Susanoo was enhanced? This is just my curiosity.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Susano - Mangekyo sharingan and everything that is derived from it is considered Ninjutsu

Spiritual energy is a Synonim to chakra

in any case

A susanoo arrow did not affect the juubi - Amateratsu did not afect Obito - 1 reason , cuz its Ninjutsu , and he negates any Ninjutusu


So it does not matter what u call it , Sasuke uses chakra for it - and Naruto's chakra enhances any technique

hence - it is Safe to assume that it due to his chakra

I already eliminated such an assumption in the post you quoted.

 

[Champ]

Already know it didn't. Sasuke was bout to turn it up a notch with Naruto, but his Biju mode had wore off